DoofersDad

Couldn't agree more. Let's not forget that they won the 2nd division title before The Rangers won the division below. Queens have 9 more points from the same number of games and a goal difference of 69 compared to The Rangers' 57. Mind you, I would have thought Alan Archibald is unlucky not to be short listed as well. If Partick beat Dumbarton at the weekend they will beat County's points total of last year when Adams got the award.

When you get these pathetic bigotted morons behaving like that at an U17 match, one dreads to think how they will behave when the first teams next meet. Punt Celtic off to the League of Ireland where they would presumably feel much more at home and The Rangers down to England (Evo-Stick North league should be about their level) and then the rest of us can get on with a proper football league watched by proper football fans.

I'm worried. We had a good flurry of players signing up for next season but its dried up whilst others have confirmed their exit. We have a lot of players out of contract at the end of the season and we need more signing up soon. Of course, our scouts down South may do wonders again and sign up players at least as good as those who don't want to stay but we currently have a good squad who are capable of becoming a very good team and building on what has been acheived this year. It may be that some are keeping their options open until they know if we win a European place, but if we lose the likes of Doran I think we could find ourselves struggling next season.

Higdon for me as well. I think the fact that there is no Celtic player is a reflection of the fact that their success has been about a generally good team effort. In some games there may be a standout player but it is rarely the same one from one game to the next. I can't imagine why Lennon thinks Hooper should be in the mix. He's scored the same as McGinn and less that Higdon and Griffiths. He's scored two less SPL goals than our own Billy McKay who also isn't on the shortlist. There is no doubt that Celtic are clearly the best team in the league and they create significantly more chances. If Lennon is dissapointed with anything he should be disappointed that his main strikers have not scored more.

Adams 20 votes ahead. Terry needs lots more votes.

I think we should bring in 3 or 4 players none of us has ever heard of. Seemed to work OK this season.

Never mind the defence, with Warren out, who's going to score the goals? It is time for Richie to score a few again - he's not been on the scoresheet since Boxing Day

It's not often you lose but yet can say it's been a good weekend - but I think that's a fair summary of this weekend. Getting anything out of the Celtic game would have been a huge bonus, but for none of the 3 teams behind us to win is a real boost. With 4 games to go we are 4 points clear and have Celtic out of the way. It is very much in our own hands and depending on how other results go, wins in our next 2 games could have a European place secured with 2 games still to go. But even if we only drew our matches with the 3 below us and lost to Motherwell and if Celtic beat the 3 below us, then the best any of them could do would be for St Johnstone to match our points tally. Looking at it from St Johnstone's perspective, they really have to beat us next week. I'll be happy with a draw - but a win for us would be nice!

he's awful now, he hardly plays for Swindon He's playing tonight and has scored twice in the first half!

They may have said they want a change but the sad fact is that they didn't vote for it. They may not have liked the structure that was on the table but that was part of a package which, rightly or wrongly, was the only package on offer. However, what was part of the package was a move to a 9 - 3 voting system which clearly would have made it easier to bring about change in the future. There are several on this forum defending Gilmour and MacGregor on the basis that they dislike the structure which was part of the package. Some are proposing alternatives. These alternatives may be better, but whether they are better or not is totally irrelevant to the debate - they were simply not on offer! If you wanted an alternative to either the current structure or the one in the package then you have to ask yourself, is it more likely you will get a specific structure with a 9 - 3 voting system or an 11 - 1 voting system? Frankly, it's a no brainer. If Gilmour and MacGregor wanted something different there was simply no alternative but to vote for the package which would have made change more likely in the future. There were really only 3 reasons for voting against the package: Because they think the pyramid system is a dreadful idea and no way must new blood be allowed into the league. Because they think the 11 - 1 voting system is great Because they think the current league set up is the best Gilmour and MacGregor should come clean and tell us all which of these reasons was their overwhelming reason for voting no. Yes, they may have said they want change but not only have they voted for no change, they have voted to make change a lot more difficult in the future.

The current system (not just the league structure) is rotten to the core and we desparately need change. What is wrong with the system is evidenced by the fact that clubs were given the option of all or nothing. Obviously clubs might be for a change in the voting structure and against the restructuring proposals but were simply not given the option of voting separately on the issues. In my view, the current system with the 11 - 1 vote for change means that no meaningful change is ever going to happen. I appreciate that a lot of fans don't fancy the league structure as proposed, but frankly, that was just a side issue in this sorry state of affairs. Voting for change today would have seen a change to the voting structure, the development of a pyramid structure and the first steps towards a much more sensible structure for the game. OK, so with that comes a league reconstruction which a lot of folk don't like but let's face it, there is no consensus around what folk actually do like. What was wrong with giving it a try? It just might have worked! And if it didn't work, at least we would then have the mechanism in place to change it. All this opportunity for change has been lost because 2 club chairmen have messed up big time. And please don't give me this crap about Uncle Roy standing up for his principles and listening to the fans - since when have the County fans been in favour of the 11 - 1 voting system? I've had a lot of respect for MacGregor in the past but that's gone I'm afraid. He's sold Scottish football down the river. Rangers will soon be back at the top table and it will back to square one. A sad day for Scottish Football IMHO.

Memories of a great scene from Blazing Saddles

A good number of Hibs "fans" left the ground when the Bairns went 3 up

The being out of position argument seems to be the one that is used but it doesn't hold water when both CBs come all the way up for corners.

It gets mentioned every season. Grant Munro had a great long throw but Terry stopped him using it and throws have been dross ever since. Most of the players never seem interested in finding a bit of space and making themselves available. It seems to be the fringe players like Sutherland, Ross and Pepper (remember him?) who seem to look interested. We are not only bad at our own throws, we often don't mark up well for opposition throws. I simply don't understand why this area of the game is so neglected. It is actually quite extraordinary that our results have been so good when we are so poor at throw ins.

I fear it will be Woods.

I'm all geared up for an early summer trip to the sand pit

The 11 - 1 majority for change is the big problem here. The current situation illustrates the folly of those who were short sighted enough to agree to it in the first place. Having such a voting rule cannot be justified by anyone with a shred of decency in them and in my view those who oppose it should band together and put pressure on those who don't. I suppose if we thrashed Celtic 10 - 2 they would claim the 3 points.

The point that St Johnstone won last Monday against Dundee Utd meant that 5 teams were confirmed in the top 6. The SPL at that point should have been able to work out the fixtures for each of the remaining 4 scenarios and could have asked the TV companies and the police for their views on that. If the TV companies or Police were not prepared to discuss until the 6th team was confirmed then at least the SPL could have got the fixtures to TV and Police by 5pm on Saturday. With no OF derby there should be no major policing issues so it all seems rather shabby to me.

Not easy to lip read, is he.

No it's not the same as playing for Stenhousemuir. At Stenhousemuir he could at least expect to be busy for much of the 90 minutes of each game. At The Rangers all he will be doing on match day is spending the time wondering what to do with his completely unjustified pay packet, If he still has any ambition as a player he would have been better to follow up on interest from struggling Championship sides. At one of those clubs he would still have been paid well but would have more opportunity to prove himself and put himself in the shop window.

Of course, the TCS has hardly been designed to intimidate the opposition with the wrap around wall of sound. One thing I have noticed is that the prevailing generally westerly winds usually take any noise that is generated away from the pitch. With the current unseasonably cold weather, the winds have been coming in from the NE and this has helped the sound penetrate more into the stadium and has helped with the atmosphere. Whilst it may seem sacrilege to some, the club should maybe give serious consideration to making the South Stand the home end so that the wind will normally carry the home fans' noise to the players rather than the other way round.

Let's not get into this "I go to more away matches than you so I am a more loyal fan then you" nonsense. The reasons why people go to particular matches whether it be home or away are matters for them. Some folk wish to and are able to get to most matches. That's great. Other folk for financial, work, or personal reasons (caring for a disabled loved one, for example) only manage to get to a few games. Going to away matches can involve planning and pulling in favours from others and therefore that will tend to be the glamour ties or special occasions rather than Wednesday evening in Kilmarnock. I accept that there are also plenty of folk who don't have the same level of commitment to the team as others and who could but simply don't want to go week in and week out. Of course, it would be great if they went to more matches but they are unlikely to do so if others make them feel that they are not proper supporters. If we get into Europe it would be great if we got good support for away matches (note the optimistic plural). If folk who rarely manage to get to away matches can sort things out in order to be part of that historic chapter in the club's history, then we should all join together in giving the best possible support for the team. Having a small group of regular supporters questioning the right of others to be there really isn't very helpful. CaleyJags Together and all that.

Even my son commented on it....and he knows NOTHING about footie lol North Stand as full as I have seen it for a while apart from Celtic and County games. Friday night and being live on TV is bound to reduce the crowd but I thought the crowd was pretty good.

Relieved not to have lost after that performance. I think those players with offers on the table and who have not signed up should do so now. Having played so poorly on a televised match I can't see better offers coming in for anyone. No movement off the ball, no vision, poor control, poor shooting. Given that we are 5 points clear in 3rd spot I was expecting a confident performance but it must rank as one of the worst of the season. Hopefully the players can take heart from the fact that they didn't lose and can get back to winning ways after the split.