Yngwie

Saw something here a while back, think it was ?15 for adults. I suppose the counterargument to your (valid) points is that it's a national cup semi-final!

In fact the only thing they have in common is that neither will play for Scotland!

You've made my day with that one :)

Maybe we should have kept Phil McGuire - aaargh!

Home form is ridiculous, totally unacceptable.

Butcher will no doubt point to the good second half, in the same way that Burley kept his job by ending a dismal campaign with a good performance.

Agreed, not good enough at all.

Rooney's was a penalty according to BBC.

With some key players out the manager's hand was forced to some extent. But given that we already had to field a few fringe players, it's a bit surprising that Butcher didn't want to draft in the experience of McBain or LDZ at left back.

I said after the good performance at Motherwell that we seem incapable of playing well twice in a row. I don't know why that is though.

I know we are rubbish at home, but this is ridiculous.

Shinnie preferred to LDZ! Didn't realise Golly was (presumably) injured.

So what should they be doing instead? Let go of Foran and the other players who give us a chance of bouncing back up, and resign ourselves to life as a Division 1/2 side forever? Yes we are spending above our means this season, but it's a one off and worth the risk if you ask me. I would also wager that we will not be in administration in the next 5 years. If it happens though, I'll buy the club and we'll be fine.

I think Johnboy's just about right, unless the rules have changed again. We might have shared McDiarmid Park rather than Pittodrie, but there was an SPL requirement that the SPL club has to have priority and control over fixture dates, which St J would not accept.

Money, yes, but wasn't he at County before?

I think Dundee Utd won the league in 1983 with just 14 too, and 11 of them came up through their youth system.

I see Dundee have signed Derek Soutar as cover. Whilst I don't really rate him, I'd have thought that with him being a free agent since the end of last season, he would have been the sort of player we'd have looked at in the summer to be Esson's deputy.

Some might say we bought/spent our way to those minor achievements, playing against part timers most weeks.

I for one would love to see ICT try out three at the back at home. It worked excellently under Steve Paterson, who was very big on the 3-5-2. It was more entertaining, but what did it win us? One of the things John Robertson said when posting here recently was that he very quickly realised that to get us promoted he'd have to adopt 4-4-2.

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Not necessarily.

Allison may have potential, but if anything happens to Esson we would have the weakest first team keeper in the league. We'd need to somehow wrangle an emergency loan. Or get Jim Calder back.

I would imagine that Tokely, Proctor and Golly, who have all played there before, would all be called upon before any of the youngsters. At some point they will be called upon, its only a matter of time. Definitely a point of potential weakness though.

It's his dad, and his boss - County's Director of Football.