12th Man

Positive effect ! Does this confirm that 300 away fans make more noise that 3000 home ones. Have you looked at the table for home and away form.

How would you compare the noise generated by our fans at home and away games? Do noisy fans have a positive effect on the team that you support. At away games, do you normally find that the noisy ones go and sit as high up the stand as they can, they usually start the noise, the ones below join in and the spectators sit lower down? all the people are fans and they have all decided where they want to sit? If you mixed all of the fans up and randomly placed them back in the stand, would the atmosphere be the same and would some fans be happier sitting elsewhere? Would you say that the atmosphere is good at home or could it be improved? Think of the match you enjoyed the most, was it deadly silent or was it a din and did you feel a compelling urge to make some noise too ? Getting back to the north stand its not about eviction, its about getting some of the pieces of the jigsaw in the right place. voluntarily of course.

First and foremost I don't want to upset any of ICT's fans by suggesting that they must move out of a certain area. IF say section G was to become noisier, would some fans sitting in this area prefer to move? I used to go to around 75% of home games and pay at the gate but bought my season ticket when we joined the SPL and have done ever since. but I preferred to move from my usual seating area because I was sick of someone behind always getting angry, shouting at the team and wingeing. I felt that my enjoyment of the game would be better if I sat somewhere else. I don't think that section G was ever advertised as a singing section so fans originally just sat there to watch the game. Its about the quality of enjoyment at the game, some people may not enjoy being surrounded by noisy fans and may wish that they sat somewhere quieter,some are happy joining in and I bet some would absolutely love to sit in section G. So its not about forcing people from their seats its about raising the awareness of where fans sit and why and improving their day out.

Sorry struggling to see the benefit for the club for this to happen How about trying to recreate the same noise levels that our fans make at away games.

Stay off the memory destroying substances. You went out on 12th Jan 2008 in 4th Round, we stayed in until the 12th Feb 2008 in the 5th Round. Ha! You actually checked :009: :( :D :D :D :D Priceless. Aaahh blesss, I think county actually finished higher than us in the league once as well cant miss that one out either can we.

I thought this would warrant its own thread instead of merging with atmosphere and Scottish cup round 4. With the Motherwell game coming up the club has the opportunity to sell tickets for a noisy section which could be publicised as say section F/G. The club can then gauge the level of interest for this section,how many season ticket holders have requested a move out of this area for the game and how many have wanted to stay. The club will have some real facts and figures to go by and also a noisy north stand. Thoughts

Whether you have lost faith in him, the board have lost faith in him or the main shareholder have lost faith in him doesn't matter a jot as they can't afford to get rid of him (not saying they want to get rid of him) and his fantastic sidekick Malpas, unless they walk they will both be there until the end of the season so best just get used to it.

As Scotty has pointed out a bar that is open 18 times a year wont pay for itself. would a temporary beer tent be covered by the same alcohol license that is issued for the kingsmills suite as licenses arent cheap. Some cafes etc have now stopped selling alcohol, one owner told me that his license has jumped up to ?1,400 for a small coffee shop, so now he doesnt have one. kind of a backward step if you as me as its the government who make all the profit on the sale of booze.

Can any one remind me who our opponents were the last time we were in the 1st division and how did the league table finish. Would you deem the other teams to be strong opposition? having the top two teams from div 1 join the SPL the year before our promotion did this help our promotion quest too. Who were the main contenders for promotion that year and why ? did any teams have wealthy financial backing at the time. Excluding our last year in div 3, when we had a support of around 3000, have we ever been way out in front in the league table since.

I think the future will be clearer after the next five games.

An adult and 2 under 8s for only ?72 for the rest of the season, it would cost more than that to not take them.

Good idea, If all interested parties could email the club wishing to join the singing section, with the full intent of singing, the club could then guage the volume of interest, see what size of area is required, contact the existing fans in that location to inform them that where they sit is about to get very noisy and would they like to move or participate,It would obviously be a round robin request so no point being offended if you are one noisy bunch. It could be done this season though if the hunger is there from the fans and the club. 2 weeks for all interested fans to note an interest, 1 week to advise season ticket holders if they wish to move, also explaining that it is for the good of the club, the players and fans and thanking them for their support, advising that they are perfectly entitled to stay but it will become very noisy. The more quiet ones that request a move the better and if some people don't bother to reply within 7 days then allocate the seats around them they will probably move soon after. which leaves 7 days to get the tickets organised and if their not ready in time then they can easily be printed off at the club shop for one game surely. This can either be discussed or put in to action Its up to you do do something about it and force the issue if enough genuine people contact the club. and rightly named the caleykid1994 stand.

Yeh but no but yeh but no but I wasnt even there anyway so how am I supposed to know I was miles away and dont even know what your talking about Ask Kelly she'll back me up neither of us know anything ever so there

No Imrie for the next game maybe Ross can come on with Flash Eric

Still gives me nightmares!! As much as i like it, I hate seeing us in under pressure games, as i have not the slightest bit faith that i used to have in the team in pressure games. 3 or 4 years ago and before, id relish cup games, pressure games and so on, as we would take it in our stride and take it on. Now - especially that last game of last season, the quarter final against Falkirk in the scottish cup aswell, we just arent the bravehearts we used to be ever since Brewster, through to Butcher - which i am not really saying is their fault. If it came down to ICT v Dundee in May to win the league, it embaresses me to say id put money on Dundee. Looking at that from a different angle which teams fans would be the most anxious and nervous prior to a game in the Scottish cup if it was ICT v Celtic ? 2 wins out of 3 and only a few minutes away from 3/3

Think Duff is out for the whole season which is a shame.

Can fully understand where you are coming from but you can tell by the feedback that people don't want to give up their seats. One way this could improve is when we have a need for a forth stand I mean a proper one,If all of the noisy fans get together on the quiet see how many of you there are and book up an area all at once after seeing what seats are available don't go public about it though otherwise the same problem occurs with the people who want to be associated with the noisy ones pinch the seats but dont give their voice. As above but all move along a bit in the north stand, see whats available. If you have no fear and theres more than a dozen of you just make your own noise where ever you are. Other grounds give better amplification because the away section is usually deep and narrow and its easy to add to the noise coming from behind.

Not sure which Hayes you mean, I've checked the phone book and there isnt a J Hayes listed. there are, 18 Hayes' in the phone book though, of the 18 I contacted, 5 were out,left a message on 3 answering machines,6 felt fit and well, 2 had a sore back,1 has got ------,and is on antibiotics and the last is off work with receding hair. There were no Hayes residing in Easter Ross, think they must have had the phones cut off. Out of the 6 that felt fit none of them play football so if you could give some more information regarding who this Hayes is that we should get shot of, then I might have a clearer picture of who on earth your talking about.

No point taking any offence over this what so ever, it doesn't really matter about the minority ICT viewers, when former Rangers captain seems to hold more appeal to the general public, What if JR was in the seat instead, former ICT manager or Hearts legend? I'm not trying to defend it, Its just not worth raising the issue. I think if TB had saved us last season and we were currently mid table in the SPL he would be joining Rangers shortly anyway or be elsewhere by now. Thats just the way it is. just like our past managers moving on.

I would say that the Dunfermiline away game was noisier with around 500 fans,(with good chants too), only someone on the pitch could verify that but yes the atmosphere was pretty good but how can you stay silent watching football as good as that. Alba final or league cup decider, I think we all know which game would have the biggest support.

I know we lost but what a great day out, Everything about ICT in the first half was absolutely brilliant if we can play that well for 90 minutes in the league week in week out then we are back in the SPL without a doubt. Thats the best Ive seen ICT play since I cant remember when. Cant wait for round 4 of the Scottish cup. Great football,near full stadium, TV coverage and a good day out. pity about the cup bit but all the players were really good and that lifts my spirits with regards to climbing the league.

The weather in perth is looking pretty good check out the live web cam. http://images.webcams.travel/webcam/1169304797.jpg

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ta/...st_weather.html The met office had perth down as Sunday being sunny two days ago. The Queens v pars match has been called off but no point in worrying about our game on Sunday lets just assume its OK for tomorrow.

Me plus 1, I was hoping to get the supporters bus down but feel that ive left it too late to make contact, so will just drive down the A9 instead. Ps anyone willing to put forward a mob no, so that if there are any problems on the A9 it can get relayed back here, ie.'dangerous pot hole, make sure you observe the speed limit' and the location :huh:

As the previous posts have mentioned I think Ict are lucky to have this calibre of staff working for them. Just received my 3rd division champions scarf but I blame the post office for that one.