StockholmSyndrome

You would wonder, wouldn't you? Also, the manner of the sacking was cowardly, in my opinion. If they had concerns would it have been that difficult for them to sit and have a proper meeting with Don? If they had actually been willing to talk about their concerns directly wit him then both sides may have been able to reach a compromise that didn't involve sacking anyone. But as we know, trying to engage in any sort of dialogue with the people who run the club is like trying to get blood from a turnip.

I'm now quite curious about what it is that you know about the club, it sounds troubling, whatever it is. As for the club "becoming a shambles", I remember worrying about this almost a decade ago, when I wasn't much older than you are now. Unfortunately, things have got worse in the last ten years and instead of growing and becoming more organised and developed it has very obviously got more disorganised. "Becoming a shambles"? It already is a shambles, and has been for a long time.

That even beats the "Tough on Boris, tough on the causes of Boris" one that The Fly sent me the other day. :angry:

Ouch. I don't see what right they had to do that if it was an arrangement you made directly with SRU. I'd be as mad as hell if it were me.

Mantis, you are a man after my own heart. I agree with almost every word and I believe we will be in the SFL for a good long time now, and part of the problem is that we have lost whatever it was that made us a special club and it will take us a long time to get that back, if indeed we ever do. Wilson, what are you drinking, because I would LOVE some right now. Yup. David Sutherland may have kept our club afloat, but his control over us is increasingly becoming a stranglehold rather than a support. The board have also shown a singular lack of ambition and have allowed our club to go backwards, which has been happening basically since Ken Mackie left. This is what I find particularly galling.

They came round the corner too...but it had zero impact! A wee bit of trivia for y'all....did you know...there are more Snow Plows/Gritters in London than there is in the Whole of Scotland please tell me that isnt true It probably is; I can well believe it. For what it's worth, Glasgow City Council is just the same. In fact, where I live it doesn't look like any of the roads have been gritted, even the main ones, and the pavements are even worse. Yesterday I needed ice skates to get to work.

Mortgage processing. It's been a rough couple of years :)

*Shrug* I didn't say that we don't. My point is that our problems are not just at management level, they're also at organisational level and the people who are supposedly running the club should at the very least take a long hard look at themselves.

It concerns me that we seem to be unable to string two decent halves together, let alone two decent games. It seems to me to be a combination of poor managerial decisions and the players just bottling it for no good reason. However, the malaise at the club goes deeper than just the players and management. If we're going to look at replacing the management team (again), we also need to look at replacing those running the club, as they're the ones who've allowed the debacle of the past 18 months to happen.

Think you have a good point, Clacher. A well-prepared team would be ready to face up to whatever the other side might throw at it. That was not a well-prepared team in the second half and they bottled it, in spite of the good first half that they'd had.

I didn't vote either. As I am unable to see into the future I have no idea whether he'll still be with us or not. If I absolutely had to make a choice, I'd probably tend more towards "no".

Alcohol and copious amounts of denial. That's how I do it, anyway. Am absolutely raging that we threw it away after having such a great first half and a two goal lead at half time. Why can we not string two decent halves together? Pathetic.

This venue is not very neutral...

I never understood what s/he was on about anyway. And I often wonder what happened to Seoras. I heard he moved to Paisley, but haven't heard anything about him since.

I agree, this kind of thing is unacceptable, unpleasant and just downright rude. And even if people aren't outright abusing each other there's still a depressing amount of posters bitching and taking pot shots at other fans. I mean, for Pete's sake, we're all supposed to be on the same side, aren't we?? I think Ronnyc's idea about having to earn posting privileges is a good one. It might help people to learn to actually think before posting nonsense. I would also favour stricter moderation, maybe restricting the troublemakers to a "quarantine" area for a while, or having a "three strikes and you're out" policy. I miss the community atmosphere we used to have and I'd be happy to get it back, even if it meant a tightening of the rules.

"one of the most economically deprived areas in Scotland" I presume they are referring to Merkinch rather than Inverness. But even so, is it a valid claim? I haven't lived in Inverness since the 80's, but my perception of that area is that it's deprived and a bit rough, but there are dozens of worse areas. They're exaggerating all right. Merkinch is not the best of areas, as we know, but it's nowhere near the same league as Sighthill and Easterhouse, both of which have really depressing levels of urban poverty.

Interesting post, Stan. I always wondered why you had the Khanda.

Mine is Franka Potente from Run Lola Run, a film that has everything. I like the picture because it's got attitude.

Well, if nothing else, at least he has good taste in cars. I wish we could find someone to take him off our hands, though. The term "white elephant" could have been invented for him. Even if he is played out of position, I've never seen anything from him that would justify his alleged wages.

That's exactly what's missing from the squad, and has been ever since Brewster was allowed to start getting rid of all our flair players. The result has been... underwhelming to say the least.

My comment was a more general one about the lack of communication from the club since... well, ever. However, I do agree this discussion has got a bit alarmist and out of hand. The prospect of part-time football would be worrying and would be a big step backwards, but hopefully it's not something we would have to consider.

That's a disgraceful thing to say! Everyone knows it's by the hour Funny, 'cos it's true. Heaven forbid that the club would actually communicate with the fans, after all.

Quite. We're not dead in the water yet, although things are decidedly mediocre. I for one don't feel things are as bad just now as they were under Brewster, even though they're not really working out as we'd like and we are going backwards as a club. Things were very bad under Brewster and I wouldn't want to go back to that. I totally agree. Although I'm not happy with the way things are at the moment, I find the amount of vitriol that some people are directing at Terry Butcher disturbing and uncalled-for. Some people have posted about how they feel he should show respect to the fans. Well, it works both ways, y'know. What about us showing him a bit of respect as well? If people were cursing him out and abusing him all afternoon then I don't blame him for reacting to it. I'm not sure I wouldn't be tempted to do the same. In the end, I'm not convinced that he's responsible for all the problems with the team: I think the malaise goes much deeper and changing managers again may cause more problems than it solves.

15 years ago if I'd known that the hard work put in by so many people to get us into and up the leagues would be undone by the actions of those in charge of the club over the past two or three seasons I would have been far from delighted. We have come a long way, but instead of consolidating our position and trying to grow and develop to the greatest extent possible for us, we're going backwards. This is what I object to

I would completely agree with this. Blaming the fans is, in my opinion a complete cop-out.