Alex MacLeod

All those examples may be chic in their current guise but add names and numbers and sponsors logo and they'll likely look naff

At the moment our U-20's are sixth with 43 pts from 30 games. Only Falkirk in seventh can overtake us. They are four below with two to play. We have a twelve goal difference over them.

Roughi, I see you suggest sending a couple of players out on loan but is that not going to leave a shortage at U-20 level?

Hayes way ahead with 55% Black on 15% Liam 3%

If you watch U20 games you would be saying the complete opposite. When Conor started with us he was pretty much a winger/striker, scored a late equaliser vs Hearts and scored a peach vs Hibernian. Admittedly he hasn't really been given much of a chance since. I have taken a fair bit of time watching u20s home games and this season Conor has been playing at right back. The word for me that sums him up is 'versatility'. His performances at right back have been really good and he has the pace to go forward but also the pace to come back to defend. Right back was a position I was worried about due to the lack of cover but the reality is now we have Conor Pepper and Graeme Shinnie that can fill in at right back, so that in itself should hopefully warrant Conor Pepper a new Sorry, but he has taken too long to break through to FIRST team level so management must have doubts about him. If we are talking U20 football, he is probably far too expensive and the CLUB will get better value with younger prospects. When you have the likes of Marley Watkins and Aaron Doran performing really well, would you really fancy your chances getting a look in? As I have already stated he has not been given a decent enough chance in the first team and when he did under Terry Butcher he scored vs Hearts and Hibs. I don't think Conor will be expensive for the club. I personally would sign him up for a couple seasons and send him out on loan because I feel that he is good enough to play for ICT but we have too much competition for places. As I have said in another thread if anything he would be a decent back up for David Raven. Both those players have been out at some point yet Conor still didn't get the nod.

Last season under Butcher, from mid December to end of season we won 6. In the same period this season, Yogi has won 5 already. Similar form to last season. Aye keep hearing this going backwards stuff but the stats really dont show this as youve said. From clear in second with games in hand to struggling to fend off St Johnstone for fifth. I'm confused. In what respect is that not going backwards ? Will your glass ever be half full. You say we're struggling to fend of St Johnston. I say we're fighting to overtake Dundee United. I'd also say that this going backwards, as you term it, is nothing to do with the current manager but more to do with the upset in rhythm by the previous one leaving. Some folk talk like we are Man U or some such. We are equal to ten other teams in this league and fighting for points just like the rest of them. At the end of the season I'll decide if we've gone backwards but as things stand I believe we'll pick up a few more points. Surviving a second season in top half and getting to a cup final, only losing on penalties, has to be seen as going forward a little.

Some won't have seen it, but it really is pretty standard player toeing the party line sort of stuff. It has, of course, also been ignored by folk opposed to those with "certain views"! "Togetherness" has broken out again and it appears everyone sees the article for what it is and sees no point on commenting on it. Many of us are not in a position to pick up the courier so, like me, probably never seen the article till it was linked here hence the no comment

Celtic win 5 games and we win 4. That means only a possible 9 points available to one of the other four teams. They will lose points to each other. Simples.

I BELIEVE we'll take 12

Shame he's also a bit of a tw@t

Whats wrong with Foran?

A fine coincidence that I noticed that as well.......................................................on BBC website.

Oh yeah of little faith. We have already beaten all the teams we need to play this season bar Celtic so there's no reason why we cant do it again.

Having read a couple of reports on this I get the impression a couple of beat cops saw a fracas and moved in. Everyone ran and Richie tried to hide but was caught and subsequently charged with breach of the peace. Looks like that and cctv were the only evidence and no further investigating was carried out to trace the others involved. It seems there were no assault charges laid at anyone. Just breaking the peace. Cops added perverting the course of justice to make a case of it but that was thrown out. Probably none of it should have ever reached the courts. Thats my take on it anyway.

Going to be a close call Liam 27 votes. Ciftci 25 so far.

Thats it!! The man has to go. After all he obviously doesn't appreciate the craic over a smooth single malt.

Mystified at what? That he's not been sentenced yet?

I very much doubt he was punched twice in the face before defending himself , if that was the case don't you think the aggressor would have been charged and not Richie ? Do you know that nobody else was charged? Or did they all scarper and Ritchie was the only one stupid enough to get caught? There are breach of the peace charges dished out every day of the week but they dont all make the papers. Its just not a story if the person is not in the public eye. Sadly it happens all too often that folks in the public eye are abused when out in public.

That doesn't make sense. I'm not a professional whisky taster but I do know what I like. Chivas is not a single malt so not one I would choose though Strathisla is one of my favourites.

Think you may find this Craig Moore is a 19 year old striker. The other one manages in Ozz

CJT, being the supporters club of ICT, has something to do with ICT and they are organising marshalls for this event.

U20 Table.docx Top Scorers Jason Cummings Hibs 18 Chris Kane St J 16 Craig Moore Motherwell 13 Ryan Christie Inverness 12 Chris Duggan Partick 12 Andrew Ryan Hamilton 10 Adam Evans Inverness 10 Tony Dingwall Ross C 10

What are the costs? Stage one home game and travel to somewhere. Get through the qualifying round and its 130k + euro's in the bank.

As Alex says, 2nd or 3rd would do it, but that's almost certainly beyond us now. But your scenarios for 4th place are spot on. I can't think of any other possible circumstances barring some unlikely UEFA Fair Play allocation. Just checked the Fair Play situation and Scotland are 9th with only the top 3 associations getting a club in, so that's gone! Wouldn't write us of just yet. We need to play all the teams and can take points of any of them. All those above us will drop points to Celtic and to each other so I think things will be a lot closer than they look at the moment. Here's my theory: Celtic take15 pts. We take 12 pts out of fifteen. The rest can then only take nine. Lets say Aberdeen take the 9 that would mean only 6 available for DU and Motherwell and St Johnstone. St Johnston take 3 from DU and Motherwell takes 3 from St Johnstone but lose to DU. Final Standings Celtic...............103pts Aberdeen..........72pts Inverness..........64pts Motherwell........63pts Dundee U.........57pts St Johnstone....51pts Simples really........................................now how to get that 12 pts.

Any idea what cost of hybrid system?