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Taking the Thistle away
By "they" you are meaning one guy yeah? One man (who doesn't even sit on the committee) doesn't represent the whole Club! I was annoyed that AVFTT made it seem that he was involved with the club, but then maybe he never sepcified either. The new Inverness Thistle FC committee are largely made up of people who weren't involved in the original club and some former supporters. The Club have frequently stated that they're not a continuation of the original club but instead are a new club who wish to respect the identity of the old. They are also on record wishing ICT the best. Again, one embittered fan doesn't represent a whole club!! And you know what, I've actually been rather impressed at how professional they have been working behind the scenes. It really puts the likes of Morrison and Gardiner to further shame. ITFC have a clear strategy in place for the playing team going forward but also a mission plan for how they wish to serve the community in a positive way. Surely the fact their existence allows for more young boys to aspire to a higher level of local football is a good thing? They are also hoping to create a football training programme for kids with ASN. So, Fair play to them. I wish them every success! Also, I've been over to watch a couple games and was amazed at the level of support - there was a crowd of over 200 both times! Instead of castigating them, maybe ICT fans should actually be asking, what have we done wrong the past 31 years that 200 folk would rather follow this new team? What have we done to serve the community? Food for thought
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Next manager; Season 2024-2025
Graeme (Spider) Stewart is surely a decent shout? Especially if we are heading towards PT football or worse... Won HFL twice with Buckie, plays attractive football with lots of goals, knows the North football scene well and what potential players are available, and he is currently available after leaving Buckie the other week Could he be our modern Pele?
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PINK!!!
Right here me out! I absolutely love our Pink kit this year and I know many others love it also. After tonight's skudding of the Village People and superior performance, it was like watching some exotic Foreign side like Inter Miami or Palermo! So it's about time I reckon that we all get behind the idea of PINK becoming our new home colours. No more "too much blue" arguments, or "not enough red and black" worries, or "It just looks like a Rangers shirt" concerns. Yes, pink and black is the way to go from now on.... Who's with me?
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Season Ticket Prices
I'm glad to see CJT have finally appeared from their own seclusion to announce on fb that they want to hear from fans. I sent them a private message along the lines that they need to outline our disgust to the board asap. I even suggested the starting of a petition asking for the club to offer a discount. Cable guy hits the nail on the head. A £50 discount is far and above a decent compromise where fans are rewarded for their continued loyalty after last season and the board receives much needed funds. I fear that many people are going to be put off renewing their STs and then the board will have even less funds to help the club. Nobody will win that way! I really hope the board and CJT will open up some kind of dialogue over the weekend, with the hope of coming to a compromise and a fair discount for fans. It's the least we deserve!
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Season Ticket Prices
Where the hell are CJT to stand up for the fans in this? Clearly going by many Facebook posts on the official fb page, many others are also outraged, and rightly so. I really feel the fans need to pull together and show our feelings to the board. The prices went up last year and the club said it was to ensure we could compete for top 6.......we got relegated. And so the board keep the same prices. We are being treated as a cash cow and I'm fed up with it! Sorry for the rant but I couldn't buy a season ticket last year because I couldn't afford one and same applies with these prices. I want to support the club, and they're making it impossible. Where is the logic in that? Disgusted, truly disgusted and embarrassed at my club today :(
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New Manager
A name I have just seen at 12/1 on a betting site, and a name I've not heard mentioned on here yet is Steven Presley. I'd imagine he won't be everyone's cup of tea and he has failed miserably down in England but you could argue that he was a success at Falkirk. I understand the point ICTChris was making earlier, regarding analytics etc. However Presley was manager of a club who had just been relegated, lacking in funds, has a similar support to ourselves and he managed a win ratio of 43%..... Worth a shout? Just a genuine question, wondering what other people's views on Presley are
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New Manager
There are two points we must look at here in defining who can manage us. 1) We are a club with limited budget and 2) managerial statistics. 1) we have a limited budget with limited resources. In my opinion the two best managers we have had that could work within that environment were Steve Paterson and Terry Butcher. Both managers had the eye to catch good, youthful and experienced talent on the cheap! Paterson dipped into the Highland league and lower Scottish leagues, whilst Butcher obviously had connections with the English non league. Therefore our new manager needs to have experience of sourcing players, in the cheap that will be good enough to challenge for the Championship title. Also, both Pele and Butcher had years of experience in management before they came to ICT and they also had tactical awareness. Both points which Foran lacked severely in. Therefore in my opinion, of all the managers mentioned above, the two men that can tick all those boxes are Paul Hartley and Paul Sheerin. Hartley has won leagues 1 & 2 with Alloa and the championship with Dundee. He has the eye for resourcing young talent from Scotland and England and despite the last few months at Dundee has largely been a successful manager. Sheerin also has years of experience in coaching and management. He was Arbroath manager for two years and won league 2. Also his role with Aberdeen u20s means he knows the development league and could be influential in getting us loan deals of young Scottish talent. 2) managerial statistics I am a big fan of moneyball and I always like to look at the win ratio of a manager which is being touted for us. Excluding Foran who had a very poor win ratio, no surprise, our last two managers in Hughes and Butcher had a win ratio of 41.3% whilst at ICT. Hughes has a career win ratio of 39.7% and Butcher has a career win ratio of 35.03% Now I must add that it is very rare at our level to find a manager who has a win ratio of more than 50%. Therefore realistically anything between 35 - 45% is what we are looking for. Of the managers mentioned above the most..... Hartley has a career win ratio of 41.3%. A massive YES from me Sheerin - 38.97% whilst at Abroath (I can't find his record at Aberdeen u20s) again a Yes from me. Danny Lennon - 31.37%. It was 27% at St Mirren which is only 3% more than Foran. So it's a resounding NO from me I cannot find statistics for Paul Telfer. Since being rejected by us, he still has not have been given a management role and therefore it rings warning bells for me. It's a No Gus MacPherson - 35% puts him within the threshold but I'm not so sure tbh. His St Mirren side were known for Brutish, long ball football. It's a no Therefore we can see Paul Hartley is the resounding winner in points 1 & 2 and the fact he is available at the moment I hope we atleast try and speak to him. He is my firm favourite and I believe he could be a resounding success for ICT. Also Paul Sheerin I believe has the ability to step into the position although he has only managed at league 1&2 and development league level. Therefore it might be wise to appoint a DoF if he were to be in the frame for the post.
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Fan / Community Ownership
As a shareholder and co-owner of F.C. United of Manchester, I have seen the benefits of supporters owning or part-owing their own football club first hand. Another example of a perfectly well run community ownership programme, would be the 'Foundation of Hearts' group as well. This thread excites me and I hope once CJT get their house in order, this is something they will pursue in the near future and put a definite motion on the table for us to sink our teeth into.
- Hamilton -V- Inverness CT
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HELLGIN AWAY
If the Young Team fail to produce a banner that says "WELCOME TO HELLGIN", I'll be disappointed...
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Inverness CT -V- Hibernian
The blame solely lies at the managers door tonight. As soon as the team sheet came out I knew we were in for a beating. We don't have any fit out and out strikers at the club so therefore benches all our attacking options in Storey, Williams, Roberts and Polworth. I mean it's complete idiocy!! In the first game against Hibs it was evident after 20 mins that the 4-3-3 wasn't working, our midfield was exposed and Polworth was out his depth at RB. It took Yogi until the 72min to make a change and 2 mins later we scored. Tonight we were set up all wrong to begin with but again it took until 74min to change things and Vigurs scores 4 mins later. This tactical nievity is simply not good enough. I am beginning to wonder however if the board and Yogi have concluded that the Cup is not a priority, but that staying up and trying for a last ditch top 6 spot by winning on Saturday is? Maybe that is why he kept our best attacking options benched tonight? Personally I think this is sheer folly and by putting all our eggs in one basket we'll likely lose them all.... However i must say belt up and 'enjoy th ride'! Yogi is signed up till atleast 2018 and quite frankly he aint getting sacked anytime soon. Imho top 6 is long gone. Its all about staying up and frankly im worried. If by a miracle we do stay up, im already fearful about next season
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Inverness CT -V- Hibernian
Do we have the same Falkirk supporting friend? Lol. My friend said exactly the same, plus that he will become stubborn playing certain players continually out of position and the majority of his signing will prove somewhat 'iffy'..... Pretty similar to ourselves sadly. He called it the 'Yogi Effect' a terminology I suspect we will become familiar with :(
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No more Merger talk
Apologies! I believe you can still buy Going Ballistic in the shop. Not sure about Against all Odds though. However Charles Bannerman is the author so maybe drop him a pm?
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No more Merger talk
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me you have more videos like this? There used to be a channel on youtube called Caleyclips which had loads of games from our early years, anyone know what happened to them? As for the statement the OP made, I used to have that attitude and cringe every time I heard the mere mention of the merger. But after reading Going Ballistic and then Against all odds, I believe we should be doing a lot more as a club to embrace the two former clubs. Both Caledonian and Inverness Thistle were institutions of Highland football with independent and successful histories. I remember reading footballgroundfrenzy twitter page, they had a magazine extract from 1990 claiming that Caledonian were the "Greatest Non-League Football Club in Britain"........That is some accolade! Therefore, although ICT were formed in 1994, our story really began in 1885! Also Sneckboy made a point that we are the only merger in the past few decades. I disagree, there have been countless mergers in non league football ie Rushden & Diamonds, Hinckley United, Lothian Thistle Hutchieson Vale(stupid name) etc. In fact the first two are now extinct and have been replaced by phoenix clubs. This further details the fact that our merger, has been an undoubted marvelous achievement. No other merger in Britain (at least) has the same success/fairytale story that we do. Again we should remember, embrace and celebrate this more often!
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Banning young team from busses
Dearest Forum friends... After some thinking, I write to simply apologise for my outburst during the early hours of Saturday morning. I believed that I had all the facts but sadly my ignorance got the better of me. I would like to thank L_G for her time to 'put me right' whilst we messaged on Saturday morning. I do believe I was given some 'half-truths' from the people I had been in contact with, but clearly it was not the WHOLE truth. To give you a little background information, three of my best mates were banned for 3 months by the Club in 2007 during the Mike Smith/West Stand Singing Section fiasco....remember that? Sadly these three guys never came back and still have nothing to do with ICT. So when I heard that 30 odd youngsters had now been 'banned' I feared the worst, panicked and overreacted. I was fearful that an even larger group of young/future fans were now going to be alienated and not come back... However as it has been detailed to me by L_G that CJT and the majority of the young team appear to be happy to move on and therefore so am I!! It has also come to my attention that a couple of CJT stalwarts have tendered their resignations. This saddens me on a personal level because I know them and the hard work they have put in to the supporters group. Sure, this past week hasn't been dealt with too fantastically, but when you look at the long list of achievements in which CJT have been involved in, last week was a minor blip! I desperately ask those who have tendered their resignations to have a long think before next weeks AGM and reconsider!! I say this because there is somewhat uncertainty on whether CJT can continue if they are not replaced. It is a whole lot more beneficial for us as supporters to have CJT than not to have them. They are the middle man between us the fans and the board.....We need them! I have been asked in the past to consider joining CJT but sadly I don't have the time at the moment to commit 100%. that's not to say I won't do it in the future, because as you know through my FC United connections I fully support and fan/supporter involvement at Club level. However as JamieICT stated before on this thread, I do feel there needs to be a representative for the younger/under30s fanbase. Had their been a representative for this age group, there may have never been such a 'blow up' and confusion, Maybe this is an area CJT can look into in the near future? Anyways that's enough from me! #Togetherness