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Everyone watches the game from a different perspective and all sorts of incidents/performences can have a bearing on the impression of the game which someone walks away with. Sometimes a piece of individual skill which has come from nowhere will stick in people's minds, sometimes a player can do nothing for the whole match but a goal is remembered after the match. Some people like to watch disciplined defensive players, some showboating midfielders, some free scoring attackers. 'Keepers and strikers will do better due to the fact that they are at the business end of the game. It all depends on what you personally take from the game.

you have watched every game this season to know this have you? I think the league table tells us all we need to know. IF THATS your point then the same can be said about butcher+malpas with icts league position??

I wasnt specifically calling for Greig to start as soon as possible but to be a regular on the bench - and most of the others mentioned could be given starts - lets face it Shinnie is playing becos Gillet is crocked - Morrison is playing becos of injuries - Ross has been in and out of the starting X1 and Sutherland hasnt been given a chance. I really do feel that we had some panic buys / loans this season and the Aldred debacle sums it up for me. The Golbart deal I can understand as we were desperate for a central defender. Perhaps fate has played a part in dealing these youngsters the opportunity to prove themselves - it will be very interesting to see what happens when we get a full squad gathered - if we ever feckin do !!

There was a great debate on Talk Sport yesterday about the demise of Scottish football and Andy Gray came up with the great point that there is some high standard Academy football coaching but the youngsters find that their paths to the first team can be blocked by average foreigners, journeymen, loan signings and experienced but jaded old pros. From an ICT perspective - especially this season - why havent we looked at spending most of our dough on an acknowledged centre forward - and saved money by regularly playing - or on the bench - the likes of Greig, Morrison,Shinnie, Ross and Sutherland. These boys should be the nucleus of our team - they are born and bred to have the desire to play for ICT - I feel that we have not had that feel of "togetherness" since the First Division wonder run. That may be what we miss through the loss of McBain, Golly, Duncan, Munro etc. - camaraderie, togethrness and an inner desire to wear and die fer the shirt. No disrespect to some of the players currently ensconsed in our starting X1 but how many are here to get experience and put themselves in the shop window with a view of going to a higher level. I would rather play one of the youngsters than a six month loanee or any of the categories raised by Andy Gray. And as Alex said - bring back the Under 21 league and boundary the number of non scots that can play in it.

Andrew Greig or Chubbs as he is known is a lightning fast winger in the style of Johnny Hayes. He has huge potential but, like so many player who can get past a full back at pace he needs to work on his delivery. Will def play pro football tho. The under 19s have a lot of players who have been at the club since they were 8 or 9 and that is were you build the unity that was mentioned earlier. Some player have had poor seasons but Charlie and the coaches stuck with them and they have grown together. I know the coaches at Celtic and Rangers have been amazed that we have managed to keep our young players together for so long and they believe it will make us a stronger club because of it in the long term. The biggest problem we have is the gap between under 19s and the first team. Most of our under 19s are 16 or 17 and although they are exceptional they are way off the first team and need reserve team experience to bridge the gap. Unfortunately the clubs cant afford to run a reserve league but if the SFA and SPL could fund it in some way then that for me would help players grow and develop and improve the standard of the SPL.

I think its safe to say that if we had a full team there is a good chance we'd be alot higher in the league, not the case but its a great measure of the character within the sqaud that they had the get up and go attitude to beat a Kilmarnock side that were unbeaten going into the game. Hibs deserve to be proping up the table, worst side in the league by far. Weren't worthy of their win up here at the start of the season.

Our father, who art in prison, my mum knows not his name, thy Riots come, read it in the Sun, in Birmingham, as it is in London. Give us this day our Welfare bread & forgive us our looting, as we're happy to loot those who defend stuff against us, lead us not into employment but deliver us free housing, for thine is the Tellies, the Burberry & the Barcardi, forever and ever - AMEN

No thanks . If he cant force his way into the weakest Rankers squad in years he aint good enough for ICT .

Get Tevez in.