Joe DiMaggio

Winning the cup would surely gain more money than 1 extra home game against the OF and realistically 5th or 6th placed prize money over 7th. I would rather finish 11th and win the cup over finishing 5th or 6th anyday!! Scrap that I would rather win the cup than finish 2nd or 3rd. Winning the cup puts you in Europe a further round than 3rd and the same as 2nd. And no one remembers who finished 2nd or 3rd in a random season years ago. Winning the cup has defined a lot of team's histories and is their greatest achievement. Killie in 97 Hearts in 98 St. Mirren 87 Motherwell 91 etc. I can list these off the top of my head but couldn't tell you who finished 2nd or 3rd in these years.

There can't be an agreement that Tuffey plays in the Scottish cup anyway. Last season Tuffey played against Elgin and Morton but for the Celtic game Esson came back in and Tuffey was back on the bench. Strange one if we are only using him in lesser games that we think we might win. For that reason I wouldn't be supprised if Esson was back in the team tonight.

Rooney wasn't the greatest at one on ones either!

Esson looked like he just learnt how to punch today! Seemed to be punching the ball away constantly

Stick a bet on it now!! I had a dream the Thursday before the first game that we drew 1-1. I told my dad and brother that I had a wee betting tip for them to lump on 1-1 but didn't really think to put a bet on it. And low and behold we drew 1-1!! I'll update any dreams I have this week!!

I think it's more the case he wanted to move back south. Guess there weren't as many offers or a connection between people at the clubs since its a short term loan. Not great for his development though as he will be playing at a worse standard and for a really poor team.

The profit would easily be more than £120k. It is 83k per team for a live game. So if we manage to beat Dunfermline we will have gained 166k. Then take in gate reciepts, sponsorship, hospitality, prize money it will be 200-250k I'd imagine. This will mean nothing if we lose next wed though!

You sure? The bbc reports both say it was Barrowman. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16495392.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16371489.stm Anyhoo, makes no difference who it was. If it was a foul, and it looked like one to be fair, then it's a fair red card.

If it was a foul then a red card is surely just. How is it absurd? If we are going with it was a foul then Barrowman had an open goal to roll the ball into and Gillet brought him down stoping a certain goal. It was also outside the box so not even a penatly to make up for it. Getting a yellow card for stopping a certain goal would be more obsurd. What is the difference with hacking someone down who has an open goal or handling the ball on the line? The open goal one is actually a worse foul being outside the box as a freekick is no where near as benificial as a penalty. And no jokes about Barrowman probably missing it anyway!

Maybe being a bit optimistic but if its 83k for a live game if we can win that is £166,000 just from Sky and with tickets probably about an average of £15 (maybe I'm being optimistic over prices here and it will be £20 as usual) we should be able to get over £200,000 easily maybe nearer £250,000, even with the split with Celtic. Anyway this is all if's and but's. We need to beat Dunfermline first and we have played them 3 times this season and it has resulted in 3 draws. So Dunfermline should be just as confident as us about winning this game.

The only angle I have seen was the sportscene one and it was impossible to tell if he got any of the ball. Looked more of a foul on tv though so not really suprised with this one.

5th round live game are: ICT or Dumfermline v Celtic Saturday 4th Febuary 12.45 k.o Sky Sports Rangers v Dundee Utd Sunday 5th Febuary 12.15pm k.o BBC Hearts v St. Johnstone Sunday 5th Febuary 2.15pm k.o Sky Sports We all pretty much knew it would be a live game anyway. At least it's on the Saturday as well and not an awful k.o time either.

What a load of nonsense. It's not long ago that a cup tie like this would have too much demand for tickets. Even with reduced crowds these days we would easily have more fans wanting to go to a Scottish cup match v Celtic than the 2,500 or so that the main stand holds. There was 6,064 at this game in the cup last season, which was a rearranged midweek game. So taking away the away support then there was still far more home fans than the capacity of the main stand. I reckon this game would get about 6,500+

What's a penalty?

If this did go through i can't say i would be interested in standing in the 'West Stand'. Cold and open to the elements, if there was similar stands as the north and south, but with safe standing areas, i would be first there. Wouldn't be overly up for that either. Unless they extended the height of the terracing a bit and out a decent roof over it which would help with the noise coming from there. Not one like they had behind the goals in the first division.

A 2-1 defeat is better for our gd than a 1-0 loss sorry but could you explain this one to me it equates to the same thing unless we have the very unlikely situation where we are tied on GD but even then does it go to goals scored? That's it. 1-0 doesn't to less damage than 2-1 for GD, it's the same. But if teams are tied then goals scored comes after GD so losing 2-1 is better than 1-0, losing 5-4 would have been better as well...not that it really makes any difference at all really since we lost and it's the points we need! We did get relegated on GD though by only 2 goals and are level on GD with Hibs so there is the slight possibility it could mean something.

And not all German stadiums appear to use the fold down seats that can be converted. Quick search game up with this one. Neither do Dortmund, they convert their fully.

That is only safe standing in Germany. More so for Uefa games where terracing isn't allowed. If a club in Scotland wants to use 'normal' terracing then I dont see why not, there is no rule or law to say what is or isnt safe. Will be interesting if County win the league and want to keep the jail end what will happen.

A 2-1 defeat is better for our gd than a 1-0 loss

Possibly the first request the SPL will get will be from Ross County, will mean they won't have to upgrade (or downgrade even) their stadium and could just leave the terracing as it is?

Hopefully the boot up the arse they need. I'm actually quite confident that we will win on saturday. You can get 3/1 for an ICT win and 1.83 for ICT not to lose. Think a good bet will be going on that.

Need to find a new pre match bar for Hearts away. The no singing thing is rubbish! Though Diggers seats do make for comfy beds if you need a nap.

And conceeded 10 goals in that time! It's easy to say we will come good and be ok, but we've all been saying that for too long now. We are 3 games away from half the season gone. We are in a relegation fight this season and it will be a struggle to stay up, Aberdeen, Hibs and Dunfermline might come good then we will start to be stranded. We need to start winning games now!

BBC are showing Dundee v kilmarnock

Since we have conceeded 30 goals in 15 games and not kept a clean sheet all season, I wouldn't be too confident!!