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I thought this as well but in those circumstances the rule is that the goal kick is retaken again.

Seems that, for some County fans, time is fast running out for Derek http://overthebridge.info/showthread.php?tid=1412

No there aren't.

Can't be bothered starting a new thread but lawl at this...

Quick thoughts before I completely nod off after that dull fest of a match. First half was incredibly boring. Lots of sideways passing from ICT which made Dundee work hard trying to close us down but we barely got forward when we had the ball and didn't seem to have much interest in trying to do anything positive with it other than retain possession. Best chance came when Draper attempted an audacious 40 yard lob but it sailed just over. In the second half the ineffective Vincent was replaced by Watkins which allowed us to try and stretch the Dundee defence except we, erm, didn't and in fact managed to somehow play even more narrow at times. At one point Watkins, Christie and Doran were all hovering around the edge of the D. We did have some good chances to score with Shinnie perhaps having the best chance when he rifled a low effort at the Dee keeper but after the initial shot was spilled he blazed over. Warren also had a good chance from a header and Watkins led a four man break on three or four Dundee defenders but dallied on the ball too long and gave the ball away. Dundee also had some good chances. Peter MacDonald twice managed to lose his marker from a free kick / corner but wasn't able to convert. His best chance came when he sped away from Meekings but thumped the ball over from about 6 yards out. Dundee also had a penalty claim turned down as well. Hard to see what happened from the other end of the pitch but it looked like we might have gotten away with one there. Overall a draw was a fair result I think. From an ICT perspective I am somewhat concerned at our slow approach to the game. We seldom looked interested to try and do anything attacking wise with the ball often turning back and sending the ball back from midfield to defence to start over again. Good attacking positions were lost as we seemed to prefer the safer option of keep the ball at all costs. Vincent was all over the place playing out on the right hand side. He was out of position and left Raven exposed on a good few occasions and didn't really stretch the Dundee defence when he got forward drifting into the middle of the park with alarming regularity. Once Watkins came on, and later Doran, I hoped we would stretch Dundee more and work some space for Ryan Christie to exploit. Instead, as mentioned previously, the three were often found in close proximity in the middle of the pitch and when the ball was played back to the full backs they had no wide men offering support on the left or right. To be honest, I thought we looked very disjointed for a fair chunk of the game with the players seemingly unsure where they should be or what to do. Improvements needed for us ahead of Motherwell especially going forward. We capitalised on two daft errors at Hamilton but Dundee were much more resolute at the back and look a tough side to break down. They should have enough quality to avoid relegation.

I never used to be able to say Bundesliga when I was younger. I called it the Bungledesia after Bungle from Rainbow.

Where the gherkins was his goal v County in the 3 - 3 Cup game in Dingwall?

It's a hard sell to make. "Come and sign for ICT but realistically you won't play much unless Mckay gets injured or suspended!" Not many folk would be up for that.

Ridiculous they've been allowed to make this change with a little over two weeks before the game is played. Fans will have seen the first fixture move and assumed it was now safe to buy travel tickets, sort out accommodation etc and then they go and move the match again. I suspect that this is due to Celtic getting papped out of the CL but if this was a risk (and it clearly was an obvious one) why move the game forward to Saturday lunchtime when that risk still exists that it would need to be moved again? They should have stuck it down for Sunday and left it at that. That way no matter what happened to Celtic in the CL fans could have made their plans safe in the knowledge the fixture wouldn't be changed again. Another fuck up from the SPFL.

Another agent account on Twitter? Possibly the worst source to back something up.

Page doesn't exist. What did it say?

Balls When are these games to be played?

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I was quite surprised when a number of Birmingham fans said pre match that they wouldn't be bothered if he left. Skillful but lightweight seemed to be the general theme. It would be great to have him back.

Andrew Shinnie

You never want to read too much into friendlies but the way we've played in the games I have seen gives me real cause for concern. If this was last season I would be more confident of us somehow finding a winning goal to grab a win but I just don't see where that is coming from right now. Our build up play is so slow and negative it gives opposition players plenty of time to get in behind the ball and block our route to goal. We don' have players that can glide past opponents like Andrew Shinnie and we rely on quick breaks and balls into space for players to chase. We've stopped doing that and look significantly poorer for it. I'd take a draw and be pretty happy with that at the minute. Is Draper injured / suspended by the way?

Got a problem with him No, I have no problem with him.

Danny Webber?

Can we have Andrew Shinnie back please?

Going down with some of the usual suspects from the Central Belt. Not looking forward to the 05:50 (?) train however!

Is there a way to order online and get the 10% discount that Season Ticket holders are entitled to? (or I think they are entitled to!)

They range in size from Dean McDonald - Bobby Mann.

Looks pretty rubbish. That cellophane wrapping is ghastly.

Looks very similar to the one I am wearing now.

Yeah saw that the other day. Just need the ones in September to be sorted out now. Travel is so expensive unless you get the cheap tickets so I need to know a wee bit before the games to make it worthwhile.