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Thanks MEE - switching between that one and http://footymad.sportbox.tv/football/match....php?id=1080689

OK - cant do my usual thorough and constantly updated matchday thread this evening as I am at work and sites like SKY Live Scores window are blocked to me ! (we cant see anything with Flash/Shockwave :007:) so this thread will have to do ........ [li]Discuss the game in this very thread right here :004:[/li] [li]Get to the chatroom HERE[/li] [li]See the subs / bookings / report - after the game starts - HERE[/li] [li]At the game ? - Dont forget to vote in the POLL after the game has ended. HERE [/li] [li]See the stats etc by choosing today's game from HERE[/li] LINEUPS ICT Fraser, Tokely, Watt, McCaffrey, McBain, Wilson, Black, Duncan, Cowie, Wyness, Niculae Subs: McAllister, McDonald, Rankin, Morgan, Rigers. ARBROATH Morrison, MacKay, Ferguson, Raeside, Bishop, Tully, Hegarty, Sellars, Watson, Scott, Tosh Subs: Reilly, Black, Webster, Rennie, Wight

if someone wants to send the mp3 to myself or Don, we will ask the club's permission and if that is forthcoming, make it available on the site for aural punishment. the question is .... is it the main version, the rap version, or all versions ?

will they fly me over to get it ?

"How do I do that Birdie Song dance again ........." [ - half of the message board contributors will now be humming that all day]

I believe it does now - clacher took me to task about it when we did the upgrades at the end of the season and I fixed it - the admins cant tell if it works or not because we cant ignore anyone, nor can we be ignored :004: (you can ignore us but you still see our posts).

At the end of the day, I dont care whether someone agrees with me or not. I have taken far worse abuse than the couple of little bits on this thread that are only mildly offensive .... water off a ducks back and all that. although I do thank those who have leaped to my defence. I have spent a long time running this site officially or before that as "officially endorsed" and during that time I had to sanitise virtually every post I made on any controversial subject. Since the site reverted back to being unofficial, I am no longer hog-tied with that restriction and it has been refreshing to finally be able to express my real views on various subjects. I have posted many things in support of both the club and the board when others were skeptical and found that those attacking me now were the ones who were supporting me then. I now find myself in the opposite camp where those who might have thought I was a 'yes' man are supporting me whilst others attack me. c'est la vie, life's too short, etc etc etc. There are a lot more twists and turns surrounding the last week's events than any of us knows (or will probably ever know). I have obtained startlingly similar information from a number of sources who as far as I know are unconnected to each other. Some of that info doesnt sit well with me and I have said so on here. That is my right. Some of it may be pub gossip, some of it may be incorrect, I dont know for sure, but as I said, it was very similar and came from disparate sources which leads me to believe there is at least a modicum of truth to it. However, the purpose of starting the other thread "Deja Brew" was to draw a line under all this bickering, conspiracies and counter conspiracies. The board have offered the job to CB and he has accepted. His comments about some fans not liking the appointment make me believe he may be a different man in this second attempt with ICT and because we are all ICT fans I do believe we should get behind him and the club. Do I believe he is the man for the job ? Based on his performance at DUFC, no I do not. However, I hope I am proved totally wrong as his first spell at ICT wasnt that bad in terms of results. I can accept why he went to DUFC (dream job etc) and (if it is true) I can appreciate that he tried to make sure the club was properly compensated when he left. As he is the man in the hotseat, then I will support both him and the team as anything else would be folly. If he fails, so do ICT and I do not think any of us want to see that. Do I believe the selection process was exhaustive? No I do not. I am of the opinion that CB was having his old parking place sign dusted down within minutes of CC's resignation and if he had been appointed within 24-48 hours there would not have been half of the outcry that there has been. If you give credence to the rumours that CC had previously offered his resignation on two previous occasions, it may even have been a wise move to have a "Plan B". There may have been some perfunctory "chats" with alternative candidates during the week but a lot of what was issued to the press (and perhaps spun a little further by them) was a smokescreen, as was the fans' meeting. It may have been done with the best intentions, but it was badly handled IMHO. However, as I said in the other thread, it is, as far as I can recollect, the first time in 13 years that I have taken issue with something the board has done so I believe we can forgive (but not forget) and get behind them too. They need to know that they cannot treat us like idiots. There are a lot of intelligent, insightful and sensible fans out there, and not being part of the prawn sandwich brigade doesnt automatically make those fans less intelligent, less important, or less able to comprehend whats going on. Will I gloat if CB fails ? ABSOLUTELY NOT. CB is the manager the board have chosen. Some fans are happy with his appointment, some are not. He has been tasked with lifting ICT off the bottom of the league and making sure that we are not relegated. If he manages to accomplish this then I will quite happily eat my humble pie, admit I was wrong to doubt him and enjoy the rest of the season. If he fails, then we will be relegated and as we have seen, its a very hard job to come back up after that. If that happens, then I wont be gloating or saying I told you so or taking any pleasure from it whatsoever as my team will have entered a dark period. I was a supporter long before Craig Brewster came along and will still be a supporter long after he is gone. If anyone wanted to gloat in those circumstances, then despite my misgivings about the man, I would believe the gloaters were not real ICT fans.

cant take the credit for that one .... CaleyD thought it up, although depending on when he wrote the article, it may also have been borrowed from the "headline creation" thread where it also appeared :004:

The explanation which came after the fact was an effort to rectify a piece of PR spin gone badly wrong. I am sure the complete truth will come out very soon ... however, in the meantime, perhaps you may want to take time to reflect on various articles (or the fans' meeting) that also brought other direct quotes from both Mr Warnock and also from our board where he was a candidate, not a candidate, had applied, had not applied, had been talked to, had not been talked to, had not heard from Inverness despite being easy to find. etc etc etc. There is a lot more to it than simple press speculation. However, at the end of the day Brew is now manager and we must get behind him. I may be on the other side of the Atlantic but email and telephones are wonderful inventions that at times can put me right inside the TCS ! I havent been party to 'pub gossip' since my last trip back to Inverness but I do reserve my right to form an opinion based on information received from a number of differing sources, the context of which is surprisingly similar. I have posted numerous times that I will take no pleasure in gloating over any setback or defeat or smugly say I told you so. I am a Caley Thistle supporter before anything else and despite my misgivings about the appointment of CB (which once again, I will say is based on his record at DUFC, nothing else), he will get my full support. see Deja Brew thread for the full comment.

I have said it before and will no doubt so again but we have our share of posters to whom everything in the garden is always rosy and very fragrant, on the other hand we have those who can only smell the horse manure and post accordingly. However, in between these extremes we have a large section of our members who realise that the horse manure is what can make the roses smell so fragrant and their opinions depend on what aroma is coming from the stadium at the time ! Last week was horse manure, lets hope that this week and beyond the roses are back around the doors !

They are not quoted on any exchange but there are a significant number of shares available that were never taken up in recent share issues. I believe you need to contact the club to do so.

the normal version or the rap version ? :rotflmao: or to be more precise ©rap version

and available on cassette tape so definitely an 'oldie'. I still have the cassette somewhere, shame I dont have anything that will play it (or maybe a blessing ) although we DO have a small clip available ...... [CT Song]

another little bit of humour - although it wasnt intended to be - came from the Chester City site who published this story today about Bobby Williamson being linked with the ICT job. "...... Williamson has been linked with the vacancy at Donald Park after Charlie Christie stepped down with Thistle losing their first three games of the SPL season. Along with Neil Warnock, Owen Coyle and former boss Craig Brewster, Williamson is thought to be high on the list of candidates for the Scottish outfit......" [LINK]

Was Brewster photographed holding a Caley scarf aloft.....? no, just a top [photo courtesy of Trevor Martin] [attach=1] ICT_Craig_Brewster_tm_3.jpg_thumb

We have all had a weekend to mull things over, we got gubbed on Saturday, we looked like a team without direction, so now that the dust has settled and Craig Brewster is finally confirmed as the new manager I think we need to get behind him. As I have posted in other threads, I do not believe that Craig is necessarily the right choice (based on his record, nothing else) but the plain and simple fact is that he is now the manager and like it or not he is the man that will try to lead us forward in weeks and months (or even years) to come. I have done a lot of soul searching over the weekend and although I have been very vociferous on this subject, and dont think what I posted was wrong, my love for ICT has won through in the end and I have decided that I will give him the benefit of the doubt and get behind both him and the team. To do otherwise would help no-one but our opponents. As for the board, I accept what others have said about them never having got it wrong before as that has always been my view too so I will support this appointment until or unless it is proved to be wrong. I continue to have issues with certain things I have heard over the past week but I will swallow those for now because of their previous exemplary record. So bottom line from me now (however reluctantly) is ... Lets get behind Brewster, get behind the team and get behind the club because without that togetherness we will be candidates for relegation and preventing that is more important to me than holding a grudge.

think I prefer the phrase "The Honest Experienced Men" who have been talking to we the Unsuspecting Supporters this past week IHE - you forgot one other source of interest this coming week ..... The AGM !

very generous of you to start with only 10 players :024:

Online listeners missed the first half but not the second !!! that was torture :015: :015:

If that were true I would agree with you :023:

OK - this thread is rapidly going if people want to debate who's the better fan or who goes to what game, please take it to the PM system or start a thread in AG forum.

Fraser Tokely Watt Munro Duncan Sutherland Black Cowie Rankin McDonald Niculae Subs: Ridgers, Caff, Hart, Wilson, Wyness

believe what you want, but I know what I have heard and who (plural) I have heard it from .........

Chris. It is not a joke, its a very serious matter. Charlie resigned last Monday and if Brewster was unveiled shortly thereafter there would have been moans and groans but nothing like the level of unhappiness shown at the moment. I believe most people would have said something like this ..... "he did crap at DUFC but he wasnt that bad at ICT. He got the team fit. He talked about loyalty but we can forgive him because DUFC was hs 'dream job'. We need someone who can settle in quickly and he knows everyone." However, the simple (alleged) "truth" - coming from normally reliable sources - is that everything last week, including the fans' meeting was just smoke and mirrors designed to give the impression of transparency in a process that had already run its course. It backfired when Warnock was embraced by a large number of ICT fans as their preferred choice and once again, the ICT PR "machine" proved to be powered by an 18th century steam engine !!! Brewster is probably not getting an entirely fair hearing because of that but as I have said, I personally will give him a chance and be happy to eat humble pie if he exceeds my expectations as that will mean my team is doing well. I hope others will do the same if results go in the other direction. The nasty taste that this debacle leaves in the mouth is that for the first time in more than 13 years I have serious reservations about the board of our club. If they wanted to appoint Brewster then why not go ahead and do it. Instead, we were strung along with a false process and treated as idiots and as CD said elsewhere that just seems to make the chasm between "them" and "us" even wider.

Wanderer - Like CaleyD and others, I do not believe he is the man for the job and my reasoning for this is clearly spelt out in various threads. However, the more I hear "unofficially", the more my fears over CB fade into insignificance compared to my concerns about behind the scenes machinations. I will give him a chance and as I have said on many other threads, and contrary to your belief I WILL be happy to declare I was wrong and eat my humble pie if he manages to prove me wrong. There are so many things floating around the grapevine of "reliable sources" right now about how this whole debacle was shaped and manipulated for a long time that if most of them only have a small grain of truth in them we should be very concerned about things behind the scenes.