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I believe "SHEEP" is still keeping goal somewhere in Aus

Walker - retired from football to help run the family business Ridgers - Nairn County McNulty - Was at Elgin until end of last season but not there now. ??? Smith - no information after leaving ICT. Zibi - went to OKS 1945 Olsztyn (Poland) but now at Korona Kielce (Poland) Come to think of it, I'm sure I read somewhere that Smith went to college in America after leaving ICT. Where he went there, I don't know, what he's doing now, I don't know, and if he carried on playing football there, I really have no idea. Jono Smith went to Clach after leaving ICT. No longer plays - what a waste!

This is the kind of info which should be coming from the CLUB, NOT, i take it, from a parent.

Good to see the old BP Youth Cup coming round again and also getting a tie that we should win. Very annoyed however that we see very little posted either on here or on the official website about the U19's. Is it because we have yet to win a match in the SPL? This club has to learn that we need to know how these kids are getting on - NOT just when we are winning matches against CLUBS who genuinely make considerable investment in youth development! I firmly believe that individual progress and development is far more important than any team result at this level. Come on people, get a grip on reality - we will NEVER have 13 or 14 top quality youngsters at this level so we will struggle to win matches. However, if we have 2 or 3 diamonds making it to the next level we should consider this a bonus. Please keep us up to date.

Good, experienced signing to get us through this season. Well done TB & MM

I don't see him managing at a higher level than HFL but I'm sure he will win some trophies.

And well beat by a far better team.

A significant part of this appointment is the role of Forbes Shand. He was his mentor at Huntly the first time round and even when he was at ICT Pel would look to him for advice. Pele always had difficulties dealing with board members who "knew nothing about the game" and needed "someone he could trust" as a link (the reason Grassa was appointed by The Builder). The problem Pele had was that he probably trusted too many so called friends who took him down the wrong road and left him there. I can see Pele being a very successful HFL manager once again but I really don't see him ggetting the opportunity to go back to full-time football. Good luck to him.

Don't think so "G". I believe his first management job was at Elgin City and then Huntly where he took over from Joey Harper(ex Aberdeen legend).

Pele has just been appointed as the new Huntly FC manager replacing Mike Teasdale's brother John at the helm. It is also interesting to note that his old chairman Forbes Shand has taken the role of "Football Consultant" to provide a "buffer" between Pele and the board.

..... and you know this how? because I know Guy Kerr. Maybe the correct answer though would be "because I know Dougie' I also know Guy reasonably well and if he was wanting to impress me, I don't think he would have namedropped Imrie- I'm sure he could have said he met Lionel Messi for a pint instead :lol: No. I gave you the correct answer. I don't know Doug Imrie If you know Kerr reasonably well you will know he is a chancer - NOT to be believed

..... and you know this how? because I know Guy Kerr.

Guy Kerr - THE biggest chancer and worst CB ever to pull on a caley shirt. See he can't get a game at Berwick either and Imrie will probably laugh if he hears he is a mate!

Rossco certainly looked fine this afternoon. Even made his agent looked stiff!

You obviously have a greater knowledge of the game and SK's coaching abilities than I do. Fixture List always has shown Saturday fixtures but is up to the two clubs to agree when it takes place.

What a learning curve these young guys are going to experience. They may get some "doings" but they will become better players by playing "up". We will have to be patient and I hope Kellacher is the right guy to coach and lead them throgh what will be a difficult period in their young lives.

NO!

Perhaps not. Last season they made a loss of approx. ?250k which was after adding over ?500k income from transfer fees so a loss of ?750k if Niculae hadn't been sold. I also notice that if it wasn't for a property revaluation in the last year the balance sheet would be showing the club as having more liabilities than assets. The accounts certainly don't paint a pretty picture. That's not what The Builder would have you believe!

Thought he would have been dealing with the DoF and not directly with the chairman!

You are spot on. I wonder which summer tournaments they compete in? A good example in Scotland is Stenhousemuir FC, a SFL2 side but because of their Youth Programme they qualify for the top grade youth structure.

I don't think you would get a job with Charlie Christie if that's what you believe! Don't try to kid yourself, youth development at SPL level is not there for fun. It is a business and is deadly serious! It is there to produce players who can develop into full-time pros. Other associations are there to provide the platform for those who want to have fun and play with their mates. I don't know what books you have been reading but getting away from "irate parents shouting abuse from the touchlines" is nigh impossible with major problems in Holland (your Dutch model) and I'm told even at the tornament in Barcelona! You really should ask some parents how much these kids have to put into this "fun" game and how it affects those who are told that they are no longer needed at 13, 14 or 15? If the club is investing money they need a return - simple - serious stuff! I dont dispute any of what you said but if you reread you may see I wasn't referring to SPL level. What I'm saying is there shouldn't be an SPL or any other level in schoolchildrens set-ups. I go to the parks at weekends and watch the kids play full games on full size pitches with irate parents shouting abuse at refs and at their own kids. The dutch model is that the kids play short games on small pitches. They learn the basics of ball control and positioning and they get introduced slowly to the competitive aspect. I dont know how much money any club invests but I do think our system is totally wrong. example of that........a twelve year old plays for an Edinburgh boys club. He's been playing in a cup comp and his team are due to play in the final. He's spotted and is invited to Ibrox. Accompanied by his father he goes along for a trial and is offered a contract. Just before the father signs it is mentioned the lad will be playing in a final. Sorry says the Ibrox man. When he signs for us he wont be playing in any final. needless to say the signing never happened. Convince me that is right. The "small sided" game is very much for primary school age, acknowledged here, Holland and I'm sure thro most of Europe - I have no problem with this and fully support the concept. We must however remember that this is a skills development environment in preparation for the 11's game when they learn positioning skills etc. No matter what level you speak about, you will ALwAYS have irate parents at matches so the Club's job is also parent education - something which will still be ongoing for may years to come. What you have to accept Alex is that we are an SPL club and youth development is a vitally important part of ICT's function. Having Charlie Christie, Duncan Shearer and Martin Bell caoching our kids must be a benefit - they have played the game and can impart knowledge as well as being SFA qualified. This is the PRO level where our regular playing experience is against similar PRO teams. The WHOLE point of my post was to ask "Why are we not playing in summer tournaments against other PRO clubs"?

I don't think you would get a job with Charlie Christie if that's what you believe! Don't try to kid yourself, youth development at SPL level is not there for fun. It is a business and is deadly serious! It is there to produce players who can develop into full-time pros. Other associations are there to provide the platform for those who want to have fun and play with their mates. I don't know what books you have been reading but getting away from "irate parents shouting abuse from the touchlines" is nigh impossible with major problems in Holland (your Dutch model) and I'm told even at the tornament in Barcelona! You really should ask some parents how much these kids have to put into this "fun" game and how it affects those who are told that they are no longer needed at 13, 14 or 15? If the club is investing money they need a return - simple - serious stuff!

Thanks for that Alex. You took the time to research this info so well done you. Wouldn't it have been better for our boys development to have entered the sections which included the Pro teams? OK we can't expect to compete against the Man U's of this world mainly because of funding (which includes employment of coaches, facilities etc)and location but what a learning experience it would be for our boys. The city of Aberdeen hosts a tournament which now attracts the likes of Dundee Utd, Celtic and even Ross County but there was no sign of us competing there. I hope I'm wrong here but I feel we may be entering tournaments we feel we have a chance of winning and not pitting our wits against the best out there. I'm sure Charlie and his coaches do their best to get our kids up to a level dictated by the funding available but the the Club really has to take Youth DEVELOPMENT seriously and find some sugar daddy who has the means to fund this great cause SERIOUSLY! The club has made considerable progress over the years but we are still not producing any more kids, capable of playing regular first team football, than we were in the 90's. Charlie's department can only do so much with the money available. Teams in bold are professional sides in the League of Ireland set-up. Crumlin United are a hugely successful Irish boys club similar to Hutchison Vale in Edinburgh or Wallsend Boys Club in Newcastle. In fact I'll think you'll find that they have produced players such as Mr A Rooney. I'm sure the standard faced by the boys would have good enough for their development. Sorry Hiro but I don't agree. The League of Ireland is part-time. Boys clubs are all very well and I know they produce some jewels but we are a Scottish Premier League club and should now be ahead of boys clubs and part-time levels.

Thanks for that Alex. You took the time to research this info so well done you. Wouldn't it have been better for our boys development to have entered the sections which included the Pro teams? OK we can't expect to compete against the Man U's of this world mainly because of funding (which includes employment of coaches, facilities etc)and location but what a learning experience it would be for our boys. The city of Aberdeen hosts a tournament which now attracts the likes of Dundee Utd, Celtic and even Ross County but there was no sign of us competing there. I hope I'm wrong here but I feel we may be entering tournaments we feel we have a chance of winning and not pitting our wits against the best out there. I'm sure Charlie and his coaches do their best to get our kids up to a level dictated by the funding available but the the Club really has to take Youth DEVELOPMENT seriously and find some sugar daddy who has the means to fund this great cause SERIOUSLY! The club has made considerable progress over the years but we are still not producing any more kids, capable of playing regular first team football, than we were in the 90's. Charlie's department can only do so much with the money available.