Renegade

It's three penalties in six actually. Shinnie missed one against Motherwell, as well as his against Hearts and the one against Aberdeen.

Found this a minute ago. An interview with a "Lionel Zadi" who works in the Paris office of "Wynne Systems". Now I know some of you will be thinking that this is some other French bloke with a similar name and I did too...until I inspected the interview a bit more closely. http://www.wynnesyst...011/292-zadi-vu Have a look at these snippets about his hobbies - And what about this! - BINGO!

I'm so relieved!

I can't see how anyone can think it's anything other than a red. It's late, it's rash and it's a dangerous challenge. It was probably one of the easiest decisions the referee had to make all game. I'll tell you as well, had an Aberdeen players tackled, say Conor Pepper like that and had only gotten a yellow card, we'd have been screaming about the injustice of it - and we'd be right.

Just found this on YouTube. Heard about it many times, but I'd never actually seen it I don't think - Best moment is 1:11 - "Oscar Perez is stupufied!"

I thought he retired a few years ago. He went back to Canada and set up an academy IIRC.

I'd go for - Esson Meekings Warren Foran Blackman Draper A.Shinnie Pepper Doran Oswell McKay Subs - Reguero, Raven, G.Shinnie, Morrison, Roberts, Brislen-Hall, Polworth If Sutherland is fit, then have him starting down the middle with Oswell dropping to the bench.

Just seen the tackle on the TV there on the TV, horrendous challenge and deserved to go. No complaints from me.

I didn't have the best of views of his tackle yesterday and I haven't seen it back yet, but my initial reaction was that it was a bit late. Again, I didn't think it was a red card, but it was a poor challenge. As I mentioned in the Matchday Thread, the Meekings challenge in the first half was the worse of the two. Moving onto a slightly different topic though, I remember reading last season that Jones was the highest earner at the club. He's currently on a one year deal, so will be out of contract at the end of the season. Is he really worth keeping? His sending off against Killie (whether it was on his "bad knee" or not) was idiotic. I wasn't at the Motherwell game, but supposedly he was rubbish, he has an awful injury record, while others have said his style of play doesn't suit the Scottish game. With that in mind and with this tough economic climate, is he really worth keeping? To be honest, I'd shed no tears if the club chose not to retain him.

Should've finished them off was the feeling I came away with. As others have said, the first half was a bit dull with nothing of much note happening, apart from Meekings' late challenge and yellow towards the end. I thought he was lucky not to walk. In the second half, both teams seemed to be going for it a bit more, with Foran having probably his best game all season. The key moment though was Doran's miss. Whether he was fouled or not, from my angle I couldn't tell, but he should have put it away. Despite a possible foul, I thought he was actually fairly poor today. My only real gripe though, was after Aberdeen scored, ICT seemed to be playing for a draw. It wasn't Celtic Park they were playing at, it was at home against team, who were really no better throughout the ninety minutes. This fear of defeat attitude really annoys me, particularly when there was still time to try and win the game. Also (and this is linked to the last point), what was the deal with McKay change? Sutherland was putting in a great shift down the middle (something many of us have been calling for for months), but was moved the wing (where he's far less effective), with McKay playing the lone frontman role, where due the conditions and stage of the game, he was never going to contribute, and did not contribute anything. It seemed like a change to run the clock down more than anything else. Surely a straight swap of Doran for Pepper would've been the far more logical decision. Overall, I thought the aforementioned Sutherland and Foran put in excellent shifts, along with Andre Blackman who also played really well. Warren also looked fairly solid to me. On the other hand, Andrew Shinnie was not in the game at all and seems to have gone backwards since his injury. Doran as I said before, was not at his best (and has an air of Claude Gnakpa about him at times) and Graeme Shinnie, put in a hard shift, but is not a winger. Rotating him and Blackman though, could be a possibility. Finally, as I've said before, I don't think David Raven can play at this level. Another poor performance from him and it's one of many this season. Of the red card, I thought Jones's challenge was poor, but didn't warrant a red, though a yellow probably would've have been fair. Meekings' challenge in the first half was worse. Whether the red was for the language he used or not, is another issue. Overall, a decent second half, but ICT really need to finish teams off, particularly when they are there for the taking, and not playing for a draw as soon as the opponent equalises.

I see Claude Gnapka has a website, where the autobiography part makes him sound like some sort of world beating nomad! http://claudegnakpa.com/ About ICT he says this - Aye, being so far north must be the reason. Not the fact he was rubbish!

HT - ICT 0-1 Aberdeen FT - ICT 1-2 Aberdeen ICT 1st scorer - Warren Aberdeen 1st scorer - Vernon Attendance - 4,719

Apparently, Levein has won 30% of competitive matches as Scotland boss (two of which were against Liechtenstein). Berti Vogts was regarded as rubbish (which he was), yet he won 38.5% of competitive matches, while Burley (hounded from day one) won 37.5%. It could also be added that Levein arguably has a better group of players to choose from than the other too, perhaps the best since France 98. He is rubbish. FACT!

The worst thing that can happen now, is that Scotland beat Wales and that buys him some more time. It's a bit like that game against Liechtenstein that was won by pure luck and completely undeservedly, but saved him his job. I'd have sacked him for the 4-6-0 fiasco myself.

Why doesn't someone then take a list of all the names that said they were season ticket holders and would refuse to re-knew if a the club voted Yes and see how many of them were season ticket holders last season after all? It could well be that some people sent the same email multiple times with a different name each time, some people weren't season ticket holders at all and some may even have been fans of other clubs trying to pressure every SPL team they could.

And that is the end of that.

No, he won't.

Esson Meekings Warren Foran G.Shinnie Draper A.Shinnie Morrison Doran Sutherland Roberts Subs - Reguero, Raven, King, Blackman, McKay, Brislen-Hall, Pepper I really don't fancy seeing Raven up against Hayes and McGinn, so Meekings gets the nod. I'd throw Roberts in the at the deep end, as he could be a bit of an unknown quantity against the Dons defence, with Sutherland down the middle. Due to the rather small back line the club has this season, I've opted for Foran at the back ahead of King as I think Foran would be a far better ariel opponent against Rory Fallon.

Could it not be possible that some of those people who emailed the chairman, did it twice using two different names?

IMO while I thought he was a bit greedy at times, Blackman looks like he's got potential on the wing. He's fairly quick and has a decent touch. He was far quieter in the second half when he moved to left back. By the way, that was Jocky Scott I saw, wasn't it? If it wasn't, he must a twin brother!

Wasn't meant to be constructive, more like a fact!

Youth or not, he's rubbish.

Scotland will be going nowhere with that dud Levein in charge IMO.

Kicking the thing would be too much effort for him!

I really should have made it more clear that if we end up in a mess, which the way we are heading is very likely. The defence looks shambolic. Dedicated, experienced stalwarts have been replaced by injury-prone duds, particularly the likes of Tom Aldred and Greg Tansey who had little interest in sticking around. Also, finishing above Dunfermline and Hibernian should not be viewed as a cause for celebration. They were both horrendous last year, and in the league ICT failed to beat Dunfermline in each of the four meetings and were beaten twice at home by Hibs, with the only win against them coming against a fairly weaker outfit. I'd like to see a team who give their all for the club and at least have some connection to the supporters. We used to have players like that, but Butcher punted them. Presumably you are referring to my past criticism of Butcher. While that is true, I've never once called for his head.