dougiedanger

I see Clach have taken down the Wine Shed, the last remaining part of the old ground: http://www.clachnacuddin.com/gallery/category/32-news-wine-shed-no-more-16th-june-2011.html Hard to believe the changes to Clach Park over the last 20 years. Any memories of the old Clach Park?

Well done to the lads. Can't wait to see the "after" photos.

Aye, Mark and Dean were some players.

The Guy has been charged with breach of the peace and assault, both aggravated by religious prejudice. See hear That's fairly meaningless at this stage. He'll have been hit with the heaviest possible charge as a matter of course so as to ensure they can get him for as much as possible. Easier for the Procurator Fiscal to do that and then back off on the charges than it is for them to have charged him with a lesser offence and then try to increase the charges. So, to summarize. The guy in the Hearts top standing in the Hearts end at a Hearts home game running on to the Hearts pitch to attack the manager of the team playing Hearts may not be a Hearts fan. And the people sending live bombs and bullets to a group of people (not just Mr Lennon), each one with Catholic/Celtic/Irish connections, may not be religious bigots. Keep it up, Poirot. Already conceded the fact that it looks very likely (practically certain) he's a Hearts Fan. Time will tell on the second point, but yeah, they may not be. P.S. I'm not much of a Poirot fan, he relied far too much on the assumption that certain types of people committed certain types of crimes...far more befitting of your take on the situation. I far prefer Sherlock Homes, and as he once said....."It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data."

The Guy has been charged with breach of the peace and assault, both aggravated by religious prejudice. See hear That's fairly meaningless at this stage. He'll have been hit with the heaviest possible charge as a matter of course so as to ensure they can get him for as much as possible. Easier for the Procurator Fiscal to do that and then back off on the charges than it is for them to have charged him with a lesser offence and then try to increase the charges. So, to summarize. The guy in the Hearts top standing in the Hearts end at a Hearts home game running on to the Hearts pitch to attack the manager of the team playing Hearts may not be a Hearts fan. And the people sending live bombs and bullets to a group of people (not just Mr Lennon), each one with Catholic/Celtic/Irish connections, may not be religious bigots. Keep it up, Poirot.

Well he had a Hearts top on, so a wild guess he is a Hearts fan. The fact that you do not like Neil lennon does not make you a bigot, but in this case there is overwhelming evidence of a widespread, cowardly sectarian campaign against Neil Lennon and other Catholics in this country. Partaking in or tacitly approving of this campaign probably does make you a bigot. Continually being in denial of the existence of such a campaign and continuing to place the emphasis on the target of the campaign, the worst by a mile in the history of Scottish football and a national disgrace? I'm really not sure what that would make you.

If none of this has anything to do with society, bigotry or religion why were other prominent Catholics and/or Celtic fans also sent bombs? And if this is all Neil Lennon's fault, why were bullets also sent to his players McCourt and McGinn, two self-effacing, inoffensive individuals? And if you think it was only one Hearts fan that was full of anti-Lennon hatred last night, you are sadly mistaken. And on the other point raised about Celtic fans' pitch incursions, these were unacceptable, one-off incidents, not the latest chapter in a 10-year campaign against an individual whose partner and child are forced to live in a safe house when he is doing his job. People can deny all they like or plead ignorance, but the facts are there. Sadly, going from the evidence on this thread and others, the reasonable people of ICT are at least matched in numbers by the petty bigots. It is your choice what kind of club and what kind of country you want, just don't try to take the moral high ground over the OF when your own prejudices are but mirrors of theirs.

Contrary to what some on here seem to believe, Neil lennon did not invent sectarianism, and if he were to leave this country sectarianism would not disappear. It is a measure of the extent to which the "petty bigotry" that Dewsburydude talks of has permeated the society that there are a good number on this very site who have a blind, irrational hatred for Neil Lennon. It shows us that this is far from being a solely OF problem. The hate campaign against him started when he was issued death threats by Northern Ireland fans, and was first taken up in Scotland by fans of Rangers FC. It has since spread to virtually every club in the country. Anyone who says this is down to his "combative style" is deluded. It is because he has refused to apaologize for being who he is and has refused (so far) to back down or be intimidated by cowards and bigots. Neil Lennon has done this country a favour in bringing to the surface the bigotry that apparently lies within fans of virtually any Scottish club. Whether he leaves or not, the treatment handed out to him as a visitor to this country is an absolute disgrace, and reflects badly on the whole nation. It is good to read some of the reasoned posts on this thread, but distressing to see so many wrapped up in petty bigotry and downright ignorance. This is a sorry episode in the history of our game and our country, and those who support the irrational vilification of this man should take a long hard look at themselves.

The Rangers for me, for several reasons. Walter and Ally and their impeccable dignity, the onfield panache of the lads in light blue, and finally, the quintessential good humour and harmless banter of the proud and lusty denizens of Ibrox Stadium.

Maybe the real issue is less about numbers than the kind of supporter the typical refusenik is/was. As Mantis says, these were generally younger, fanatical, working class types and not at all like the sweetie rustling, tartan rug brigade that ICT seem to attract for whatever reason.

Wont really matter because hes very likely to have more bans on the way, he will be in the stand for the CIS cup final will probably miss the next old firm clash from a new ban due to his loutish behavior. The worst thing he has to endure of all though is being pelted with Werther's Original sweetie wrappers at our match. Didn't he get some bullets sent in the mail? Does he deserve that? Your going to have to help me out on this one a wee bit, Ive read the above a few times and cant really see the link between commenting on a touchline ban handed out to a manager for loutish behavior and trying to justify someone sending Lennon a bullet. It's not that difficult. Your comment that the worst he had to endure was having a sweetie thrown at him. I was just wondering if having bullets sent to you through the post would be considered worse than that.

Wont really matter because hes very likely to have more bans on the way, he will be in the stand for the CIS cup final will probably miss the next old firm clash from a new ban due to his loutish behavior. The worst thing he has to endure of all though is being pelted with Werther's Original sweetie wrappers at our match. Didn't he get some bullets sent in the mail? Does he deserve that?

I've unfortunately used my greens already today, but good point. Literally thousands. Aye, literally thousands, more than 30 years of service. Was more than good to me, and is a natural coach.

JB's a legend, should have the MBE or something like that. Must be thousands of us who have benefited from his coaching, mentorship and good humour over the years. Should mention Jackie Sutherland too. All the best JB, thanks for your dedication.

Any other revolutionary ideas dougal? Keep 'em coming.

Heard that too, St Johnstone it was, the club made some statement about investigating it.

Heard some Dons fans on Wednesday were calling us Highland Huns. Is that a new thing? What on earth have we done to deserve such a label?

No one seems to be interested mate.

I mind Lemon from when they were on TV in the 70s. How did they get on playing on a big pitch, and on grass?

Like the 1938 England team? That's a terrible slur. Surely everyone knows the teams were lining up for a trial of a new underarm deoderant. Sure - AXEis ...maybe even Right Guard. bol or aerosol?

Good for the Hammers no doubt, but O'Neill is not exactly scaling the heights, considering he was tipped for great things.

I think they actually won the game that sparked all this, the Dundee United game.

Sad day indeed if that was the case. You'd think the younger generation would get their act together. Not as if there is a shortage of headers in the town. Was speaking to a few older headers ( ex ICI ) yesterday who were disgusted at the way Elgin had the run of the town on Saturday , was talk of an ICI reunion if it had gone to a replay . You think they would have seen that coming. Elgin must be p!shing themelves at what Inverness football fans have become.