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Hats off to Terry for having the gonads to put his head above the parapet and firing back with both barrels.That said, i cant agree with his assertion that "it aint broke" ,it certainly is broke Terry, and radical change is precisely whats needed to bring back interest,excitement and competition , but as all and sundry can see,not through fear of relegation and financial meltdown with only the interests of the OF catered for.

I understand thats in the pipeline JB

Way ahead or waste of time? What's yer thoughts..... I think it has potential. Inverness TV

The Daily Record really should stop using P+B as a reference source

I think thats the mutts nut's speshly the one's with the ipad on top,but at $800 a pop ..... i'll give it a miss

Shocking watching whole houses being swept away and the tented village being crunched under the bridge,bust be heartbreaking to see your whole life's works and dreams washed away in one fell swoop,grim times down under

Precisely! but the rules/sanctions will never suit any penalised club due to the vagaries and lack of consistency which allow any aggrieved clubs to appeal/whinge/whine,whatever you want to call it, as there is no due process and clarity with the regard to the penalties for breach of rules.I haven't heard anyone at Dundee FC ( outwith P&B ) blaming anyone outside our own boardroom for the current or previous financial mismanagement or that anything should be changed to suit our situation.

I don't have any argument with punishments being meted out to clubs who break league rules,but am concerned by the lack of consistency and any regulation or continuity in arriving at decisions and punishments.These decisions are usually arrived at by committees comprising members with vested interests in voting one way or another,encouraging appeals and a sense of victimisation from clubs on the end of these decisions which are made "on the hoof" with no guidelines,rulebooks or independent arbitrators to ensure a fair and fitting punishment for the breach of rules in question. This ad hoc decision making has been going on for decades with all 3 bodies being guilty of moving goalposts as they see fit and a lack of consistency from administrators.Self interest will always prevail as long as the current system of making up rules as they go along is allowed to continue but suspect it will be ever thus.

I 'll just bookmark this qoute for future reference JB! And no, I don't want a bottle of malt on the outcome

SFA hearing is this Friday (14th) not a hope in hell of any reduction IMO, i'm not sure what the point of appealing is but that seems to be the way of the football world in recent years.That said, the bodies responsible for organising and running the game in Scotland are a truly shambolic bunch with no cohesive policies regarding punishments,not enforcing rules that are in place and not having any vision as to how to save the game which is in terminal decline.Whatever the outcome from the footballing authorities, my greater fear is that the HMRC may take the decision to refuse the terms of the CVA and make an example to all clubs of the consequences of holding back on payments which may be enough if a couple of other creditors side with them, to render the club insolvent. All will be revealed in the coming weeks

by the looks of it he got the shoeing he deserved though from that mob that were chasing him News reports saying he was a STEVENAGE fan!! wonder what they do to the players when they lose??

Despite the Toon being meh Engurlish team, ya have to doff yer hat to Stevenage who came close a few years ago,shame the ability to take losing on the chin hasn't got through to all " fans" :irritated: Bampot Disgraceful!!

Racist? Nah....Pedantic? Most certainly! Yup.....i was just messing So wiz i

Racist? Nah....Pedantic? Most certainly!

Always enjoyed meh excursions into the Caley club,but the faint whiff of the urinals while yer eating yer chips disnae enhance the culinary experience

Problem is SMEE,yer preaching to the converted,this subject has been flogged to death on here, and abody who has an opinion one way or the other, has aired it several times.

I hear this lads keen to invest in a football club....... Potential investor

Kinell!!, there's a blast from the past. We used to hitch hike up from Dundee mid 70's and spend weekends at the Osprey, lot of northern soul nights , also saw Bill Barclay and a few other comedians (plenty of them about right enuff) the Viking bar was for early drinking pre Osprey and the winking owl for posh Ski totty in the winter

Never felt there was ever any justification for the huge financial support for extras involved in the whole Gaelic medium circus at the best of times,in the current climate surely any argument in support is null and void

3-0. February 1985 I think. 0-6 at Celtic Park in the next round. Les Fridge in goals (I think) and Jimmy Calder substitute striker. Yer right Charles, 3-0 it was,I thought that, but Mannies post above put doubt in my fast fading memory and i thought a stalwart like himself wouldn't get his facts wrong

Don't go as far back as some of ya's but some of my first memories after moving to Sneck were Doctor Feelgood at the Caley hotel,Friday nights blootered up the Brahan Seer,the wee bar at the Muirton hotel, a wee serving hatch through the back room of whats now the Cheiftan Hotel, cannae mind what it was called?? the 3-1 cup game Jags v Killie and the their supporters wanting to fight us at half time after drinking with us for 2 hours pre match,Going to Nairn for Dundee's cup game in weather similar to this week, cant remember getting home! walking hame from town and taking the wife into the Loch Eil to use the ladies facilities Going into Dillingers for the first time and thinking it had been petrol bombed and just about sticking to the carpet, classy joint! being bemused at pubs closing at 11.00 on a Saturday night!!

Jeez, eh clicked on that before i realised whit it was, surely some rule on mods posting inappropriate vids

Merry Christmas to all at CTO

For the less brave stupid ,who are sticking to their own firesides - live commentary from David Begg on Radio Scotland 92-95FM. No Open All Mics today - not enough games have survived the weather. Sorted it for you Charles,very poor conditions at Pitlochry just now

I'm on the A9 just now just passing Kingussie ,poorer conditions than yesterday,light flurries but starting tO cover carriageway a bit.