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Well let me see.... Mercury? Venus? Mars? Jupiter? Neptune? From whichever one it is, hopefully you can make out the following observations. * Possibly partly due to a fairly large away support, the current capacity of the TCS (7700) was yesterday more than HALF full for the first time this season. Last season's average gate equates to about 200 above 50% capacity. * Even visits from Celtic now struggle to get the TCS within 1000 of its full capacity. * ICT has a recent history of modest losses so would hardly be in a position to build this white elephant in the first place. Unless you are proposing a further 30% cut in the player budget? * In any case the TCS is owned not by the club but by the ICT Trust who have just as good a grip of reality as the board has. * There is indeed a gas main in that neck of the woods which would necessitate the extra expense of a gadget known as a cantilever if a stand were ever to go over there. * The design of the current main stand is the result of multiple constraints placed on the design of the original stadium by an extremely tight budget back in the mid 90s. This in turn was largely due to the requirement to build a £1.3M road - plus cycle path which I have never in my life seen a cyclist use, despite the fact that the blighters constantly whinge on about cyclists' rights and getting more cycle tracks!! I really thought this subject had been done to death years ago! I cycled to the game on Saturday, I never even knew there was a cycle path. Where is it?

I'd think about contacting the police directly or a local councillor perhaps. It was never this big of an issue before, lucky it wasn't Celtic coming to town, would have been even worse.

Yep the slip lane they had before was great, can't understand why it was got rid of. People who come up with these plans (and prob getting paid heaps of cash) must be on something.

That's one of my ideas....a bespoke "media zone" utilising the space where the gantry is at the moment. Ground floor would be a small and simple theatre/studio type room for post match press conference etc. First floor would be a press area for reporters, radio broadcasters etc and on top a camera gantry. However, I appreciate this is a bit of a pipe dream a even a simple structure like that has a cost in the 10's of thousands and wouldn't do anything to recoup the outlay. The two level structure could be continued on either side with the ground floor being utilised for office space (or whatever) and first floor could have a couple of boxes and/or a young families zone....for parents with really young kids who want to attend games without the worry of having to keep them seated and crying etc upsetting others around them....something akin to a creche I suppose where kids could be allowed to have toys and things whilst parents could watch the game. Again though, it falls into the category of "nice to have" and whilst there's scope to recoup at least some of the outlay...you need the money to outlay in the first place and there's a whole list of other things that need spending on before we get anywhere near investing in the nice to haves. That would be outstanding!

Still hope then.

The issue is that the lights are optimised for normal traffic flows in which there are a small number of north travelling cars turning right. Transport Scotland need to have a 'match day setting' which is enabled 11/2 hrs prior to kick-off. There will still be traffic delays but not the nonsense that happens at the moment. I don't think the lights are optimised for anything, they're utterly terrible. To say nothing for the fact that you have to turn south on the A9 when you come from Stadium Road. The 'improvements' are an utter waste of money, the lights should be switched off permanently. One of the reasons I now cycle as I mentioned before. Just have to remember not to take my water bottle though as it's not permitted of course!

Forgot the window was shut. Oh well, there's only one way for this thread to go now I suppose...

It would be good to do something to tidy it up yes. Building a stand would be folly. It's a moot point anyway we don't have the cash to build a proper shop, not likely we're gonna splash out on a stand we don't need and are never going to fill.

After missing those chances yesterday he needs to go ASAP. We should bring in someone who would have scored 4. Dragan, you still about? Seem to have gone quiet after a very energetic start on the forum.

That roundabout is a farce (don't get me started on the traffic lights) but with the number of vehicles arriving at the same time there's only so much they can do. Don't think it has anything to do with the club let alone them cutting costs. I live near the IRA, left my house at 2.20 and was in my seat for 2.45 but I cycled as I can't be bothered with the traffic/parking malarkey. Plus I'm fat and need to lose weight lol.

Fantastic game all round, outstanding performance and as people have said already we could have easily won that 5 - 0. All the players should be proud of themselves for the way that they've started this season as it's been beyond everyone's wildest expectations. We're looking strong all over the park and the football we are playing id very easy on the eye (no hoofball) the only minor niggles if I was being fussy was Foran's passing being a bit off and obviously Mackay could have easily scored 4. Normally that would be a gripe but considering how well we played it doesn't really matter. I have to admit I've not always approved of TBs plans over that past few seasons but he certainly seems to know what he's doing. No idea where this season will lead but I'm certainly making the most of it while the going is good! All the players and mgt should be proud of their efforts. 'Insert generic moan about attendances.' PS- was it just me or were some people gurning at Raven for some reason?

If you bought an adult ST and got 2 free U12s in the family section paid it over 12 months it would be under £21 a month. Works out at about £13 a game, very good value imo. I do feel sorry for the away fans who take kids aged between 13 and 15 as £16 is quite a lot for that age.

Scotty hopefully you should have received via Paypal one for myself, one for my wife Gillian and one for my daughter Sarah. Cheers.

Gutted I can't make it as I'll be away on holiday. Don't really spend much time on p&b but why are they delighted? They won't make a lot of money off our support and it must be less winnable than a load of other ties such as midden or even utd at home. They're not, they seem most upset. Sorry perhaps I should have put a wee tounge in cheek smiley in.

Crap draw for me tbh but at least the Dundee fans on P&B are delighted with it.

Might go if I can be ar*ed.

Your post lacks cohesion and clarity. What are you trying to say? No matter how much you bleat my opinion will not change. We have great board who apply a great deal of dilligence to the governance of our team. Our role should not be to help finance Heart's successes of the past few years. It is none of our business. Have you conducted due dilligence on this organisation that you are proposing to finance. Do you even know who they are? You clearly have not got any background in business or economics. 1. The offer protects ICT's financial position as income from the average visiting club is ring-fenced. i.e. no split of income will be offered from the first 650 tickets. 2. The club will benefit to the tune of £15 for every additional (full paying) Hearts fan that attends as a result of the offer. 3. Your claims that this somehow supports a corrupt regime are unfounded. 4. Yes, as a matter of fact I did do some due diligence on the 1874 Fighting Fund...maybe you should too before digging yourself a deeper hole. 5. Qualified as a Financial Consultant aged 18, held position as Senior Compliance Auditor, Senior Risk Management Officer, Head Analyst (Change Management), Project Manager (Change Management)...all for a major banking group. Does that count as having a sufficient background in business or economics to allow me to comment on this subject? All for a major banking group? Check you out! All for a major banking group? That instills trust in us all oh wise one. All for a major banking group? I would be keeping that to myself sonny after the recent performance of MAJOR BANKING GROUPS. You could be unemployable with a CV like that my boy. Especially if you are now backing UKIOS Bank Group. Sorry in answer to question number 5 you are probably the last person I would ask on this subject. ALL FOR A MAJOR BANKING GROUP. Who the feck do you think you are? HE SHREDS WHEN HE WANTS HE SHREDS WHEN HE WANTS FRED THE SHRED WORKS FOR THE BANK HE WORKS FOR THE BANK HE WORKS FOR THE BANK TRUST MEEEEEEE I WORK FOR THE BANK GET A GRIP!!!!!!!!

If we freed up Billy's wages and sold him for £50k we could maybe afford to get Barrowman back. Might surprise our opponents, nobody would expect it.

Hearts fans positively embraced the madman and enjoyed the fruits of his actions. They all knew his actions were detrimental whist creaming themselves with the artificial glory that came along with it. I can assure you that I am not angry. I do not get angry about such trivial issues like bankrupt clubs. I am involved in business every day of my working life and the debt and cheating of Hearts is not a priority but I have clear views on the honesty and integrity of the way clubs are operated. My interest is i the long term future of MY club. For example I have been studying the accounts of ICT over the past few weeks and I intend to make comment on them soon. Q. DONATIONS TO THE JAMBOS. - A. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE CALEY TILL I DIE!!!!! And making money from opposition fans is one way to securing a long term future. I look forward to hearing your views regarding the ICT accounts.

We're doing well to get 2000 odd to buy season tickets. No chance you'd get 2000 tp put up £200 extra. But as Alex says there are plenty of ways to put extra cash into the club if folk wish to. Plus I think that ICT is running pretty well under Kenny.

I'm no expert but Hearts were punished for entering admin by way of points deduction. It's a savvy move to 'support' hearts this way there is literally no cost to us or Hearts. If their fans appreciate the gesture (and going by P&B they do) they bring along more we make more money for our club and they get a few extra quid, win-win as far as I can see. For talking sake if they fill the away end at around 2.2k (unlikely I know) they make around £8k, we make around £23k. Not bad for all involved. It's a sound business decision imo we need all the cash we can get, what have we got to lose? Edit- Spelling

Noticed on P&B that we are apparently donating £5 for every Jambo over the average 650 attendance to their fighting fund. Personally if it gets more through the gate and is a net gain for us all the better. Plus the Sevconians will be seething. http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20130823/ict-to-donate-cash-to-hearts_2241384_3434859

Hayes not squared you up yet? Poor show. Don't expect someone on thousands a week to welch!