MrCaleyjag

I'm not sure winning a case because witnesses didn't show up to court really constitutes a 'great result' in my eyes. Sorry exCaley player or not, if your caught in possesion of any type of drugs then you deserve the punishment that comes to you, just because he's a footballer doesn't make him immune. Yes you'll say it was only alledged however for cases to go to court, and pardon the pun, there has to at least be some substance to it.

I agree with what you're saying however you base this on players leaving at the end of the season and us needing players then for the forth coming season, Rangers don't have until then and need to act now and shed the load on them now. Players like Perry and Ness will never be available come the end of the season should they be released from contracts now as other bigger teams who can afford them now will make their move and bring them in as free agents. That is what I based my opinion on

We've all seen the ramifications of living outwith your means and we all know also how tight the purse strings at ICT are so do we really want to see them burst or stretched to the full just because some players may be available? I can see why people are discussing about certain players that the administrators at Rangers will terminate contracts off but tbh honest I see none of them that will either be in our league or will even come upto the Highlands. We are talking abouts players like Laffertey, Papac, Aluko and Healey due to the short length of time left on their contracts and also players like McGregor, Davis, Naismith and Goian due to the possibilty of bringing in transfer money from them. I see no reason for the administrators to get rid of promising youngsters who would be on a wage that would be seen as sustainable for Rangers from now and the future, they need to if they want the club to continue on in the current format set proper foundations down and these players people have spoken about are the very ones that they will probably start these foundations with. Even if they try to keep some of the bigger players I still don't see players like Ness, Hutton and Perry being let go over players like McCulloch and the above. I personally would rather see ICT stay strict with their budgets and push on with the business model they have and not jepordise that for one or two players who we wouldn't ultimately have looked at should this situation not have come around as they would have been outwith our reach. At a time when people are talking about Rangers being extremely stupid and short sighted we would be doing the very same in essence if we broke our own boundaries because of someone elses misfortune and mismanagement.

It has been bourne on the back of him (Chick Young) being in Inverness on Monday night at a question/answer session with Terry Butcher and John Hartsson, I don't remember where it was held, but got the low down on it from Calyejag's Dad who was at it and by all accounts it was very informative and a good night. It's no coincidence that this then appears in the press a day or two after it, maybe he was struggling with something to report on or maybe it was due to his conversations with TB on the night. I agree with Kirishima that the more extra exposure ICT can get the better however I stand by my original post about Chick Young.

Chick Young is the last person I would be helping with regards to anything let alone finding us an 'official anthem' - he can't even get the 'wee genteel ditty' as he puts it correct. As far as I am concerned he can sculk back down to the central belt and cuddle up to his OF friends like he usually always does while trying to fake being a St Midden fan I see where your post is going and it's not a dig at you, I just can't be done with the man, he'e so false and no one else is allowed an opinion when talking to him - just listen to BBC Scotland every Saturday or midweek and you'll hear what I mean.

Should Rangers go to the wall, in my opinion, the biggest loser in the whole situation would be Celtic, it's ironic that the two biggest rivals in our game massively depend on each other and without one the other would have no or very little influence on the structure of Scottish Football. They may not come out and say it but the power men behind the scences at Celtic Park will be quaking over the thought of Rangers going bust. We all know the money they generate is based around the fierce rivalry that exists and that also goes for the tv money that is generated through the SPL as well, without the 'big two' as they are put there is no way anyone would pay what they pay for Scottish Football tv rights. It is also not just down to money, when it comes to voting on certain issues with the SPL both Rangers and Celtic more often than not vote the same way and this is how they have managed to monoplise the distribution of tv money and sponsorship, without one of the other neither would be able to dominate decisions anymore and no more would the smaller clubs be scared to actually vote the way they want to. Look how ICT were treated when they voted no to the ten team league last year, it was a case of how dare you etc etc. Imagine a scenario where everyone gangs up on Celtic, they wouldn't know how to handle it and then we would see the toys thrown out of the pram but maybe that's what is needed. The same would be said if the roles were reversed and Celtic were in this situation. For the other teams I see it as a blessing and I am sure that behind closed doors a lot of the big men involved in the other teams would see it as a good thing, I believe Celtic would continue to dominate for a few years after however slowly that gap would close as other teams would grow whereas Celtic would be the only team that would decline due to lack of money. The distribution of tv money is key to the whole thing and even a little extra for other clubs would make it possible for them to grow. Yes the money would be significantly less but with a better distribution the other teams wouldn't see a difference and if they did it would be minimul as what they get at the moment anyway is peanuts compared to Rangers and Celtic. Gone are the glory days of Europe for Scottish teams and UEFA themselves have shown they are not interested in the smaller nations so putting that aside it may be the blessing that Scottish Football needs to completely tare everything up and start again and it may also serve as a warning to others as to the consequences of not running a club properly. I would not be surprised if Hearts go the same way, ironically again without Romanov they would be facing exactly the same issue but due to different financial reasons, it's only him having money that keeps the bank from calling the debt in. From what I have read, know and see the only two clubs that really run their camp without really going into too much debt is ICT and St Johnstone but the rest certainly have debts beyond their means as well as running at a loss every year unless they can sell players to make ends meet, look at Hibs and Dundee Utd. After all this though I don't see Rangers going bust, I see them going into administration before that just in order to stave off seeing the club going down, alone Ibrox is worth more than the tax bill is and if it really came to it and everything was stripped down, shipped out and sold on that would be the last thing to go, it might not be what they want however it might be needed. The very thought of administration for Rangers might even be enough for other clubs to start standing up for what they believe in and use the fact Rangers aren't the club they once were to shift the power once and for all.

Terry just confirmed on the radio that Lee Cox is on his way, a fee has been agreed with Swindon. Personally I think it's a shame as I genuinly believe he had a lot of potential and wanted him to stay a bit longer but money talks, lets hope we get a decent fee for him if the deal is concluded. I haven't read the rest of the posts today but getting over the disappointment of not winning a game which sounded like we were the better with more chances it is good that we have stretched the unbeaten run, kept another clean sheet and sounded like we were better overall than St Mirren. I suppose it shows that we are progressing this season when we are sitting disappointed not to be winning a game like todays where a few months ago a draw would have been a great result.

I'm sure I read in the Sun yesterday a short article about Wolves wanting to take Davis back in January as there is interest from various Championship sides that would result in better experience for him, in their opinion, and also means that he is closer to them should they want to recall him. Glad Roman is staying on until the end of the season, along with the fact he has come on leaps and bounds it also means we don't need to go out and look for someone else who we would have to intergrate into the team and squad as well, it always takes a bit of time for someone to settle in and with a January signing generally that time isn't there and they need to hit the ground running.

Excellent result at a great time of the year against a team that to be fair have had some decent results over the last couple of weeks and stops us from becoming firmly adrift near the bottom considering the other results from today. I always think we're a better team when we have games thick and fast and was convinced that if we had won today we would be able to carry some great momentum into the festive games and hope that it will help us on Wednesday against Hibs, the less time we have to think about games the better it seems to be for us. Will enjoy todays success over Christmas and revel in the fact that I can gloat when I go back to work on Wednesday as I'm surrounded by flocks of diluded ''we're the third force in Scotland'' supporters.

Bit of a naughty one by Lee McCulloch, elbowed the Saints player in the box and got sent off. Not sure I am used to all the games kicking off at different times though

I open the link in RealPlayer and its still working for me .... but for ease of use if it cuts out, here is the direct feed link for the game and also for open all mics - just in case anyone needs to switch over/back. The Game: http://news.bbc.co.u...rem/6305553.stm Open All Mics: http://news.bbc.co.u...and/7742209.stm Cheers Scotty, I did manage to get it working again but will use the links if it happens again

I've got it on online and it cut off with a message saying 'for contractual reasons we are unable to bring you this programme but keep listening our normal service will resume shortly' and everytime I open it it still says that

Has anyone else's radio Scotland feed just gone?

If someone had of said to me beforehand that we would get a PL team I would have hoped for Dunfermline especially at home.

The access is still there or at least it was the last time I was in, from inside the portacabin it looks like a changing room however upon opening the curtain you can see into the office inside the main stand seperated by a glass door, almost caught me out once when I wanted to try something on

I've deliberately not posted for a while on the games purely as I haven't seen the team play and don't feel I could make proper judgements fairly based on hearing radio commentary but having watched the re-run on Alba last night I am not as down beat as I have been over the last few weeks. I saw enough from yesterdays game to suggest that we aren't as bad as recent results have made us out to be nor should we be worrying about still being bottom as if we can play the way we did yesterday in even half of our games we'll do enough to get ourselves further up the table. I was encouraged by our passing and movement and can't recall too many long balls either which was always a bug bear of mine, the finishing was clinical and A Shinnie was particularly impressive and I was one of his biggest critics at the start of the season so glad he has proved me wrong.

Yes get in!!!!

If Terry reads these Forums then maybe he should take some advice from the fans before he decides to turn on one, regardless of what the fans are saying they pay their money and are entitled to voice their opinions. He must also remember that he is the face of the club and therefore any unneccessary exposure especially in the face of bad results will be picked up on straight away and be focussed on more, he is working and must keep a professional head on regardless of his feelings. The best thing he could do is apologise in some way for his actions towards said fan(s) I wasn't there so can only comment generally but it is not the sort of behavior I expect from the manager of my team. I am still 100% behind TB but if he is losing the head how does that portray to the players as well.

I could understand the idea if our traditional weekend was a Friday/Saturday but not when it is a Saturday/Sunday, Spain play the majority of their league games on a Sunday night but that's because a Spanish weekend is Sunday/Monday and the only reason games are moved to a Saturday night is for tv but mostly they fill these slots with the teams that are playing in europe the following midweek, this is an idea that works for all but in Scotland this is lunacy. When would fans rather go to games? A Saturday afternoon at 3pm or a Friday night at 7.45pm? Did they take into consideration we live in a country that has crappy weather and coming into the winter when it is cold and horrible at night hardly anyone will want to freeze their bits off on a Friday night as opposed to a Saturday afternoon. Our game is going down the toilet so fast and no one has a clue what to do with it, these ideas are only serving to drive more and more people away. This is a stupid idea someone has come up with to justify their position and justify their job. If it were for tv either like it is with Championship games in England or Rugby League I could maybe understand it but it's not.

I have to say I actually agree with Dougal as well and say that I think it's too early to tell, you could take the stance that our record so far this season is poor then the signings haven't worked but that would be foolish in light of the fact players have to settle in and also the amount of injuries we have had. Once we get a settled 'fit' team and squad who have played together frequently I will judge but until then I'll abstain from making any opinions.

I never like to be negative towards the national team and always support them but unfortunately don't see us qualifying as much as it pains me to say it. As far as I see it we are too quick to look ahead al the time and question can we do it, the way the Scottish game and the national team is sitting at the moment the best we can do is concentrate on one game at a time and go from there. Each international win boosts the co-efficient which ultimately helps out with so called 'easier groups' the further up the rankings you go as we all know, for that reason we must start taking one game at a time and if it all comes together then great we'll be in a far better position. I genuinly believe our management team looked at the games and said before the away game to the Czechs that they can take a point away we'll win at home, look how that backfired as well as his infamous 4-6-0. They should have went into the away Czech game much more positively with only that game in mind then taken it from there but they didn't. Apparently much thought went into how the games were arranged and when we played them to suit our chances, it really hasn't worked at all. Maybe FIFA need to go back to dictating the fixture list and we deal with it from there taking one game at a time like club football. **Edit - because I can't spell properly

I suppose it depends on how you look at it with regards experienced players or younger players? There's got to be a blend and possibly Terry is looking at it from the angle that a typical starting eleven would include Esson, Hogg, Tokely, Foran and possibly Tade as well then that would be enough experience to be then complimented by younger players, also taking into account that Ross has a fair bit of experience now even though he is still young. The problem may come from injuries occuring to the senior players in the squad, lets hope though that this doesn't happen. He is possibly thinking longer term here as well and if these guys impress there could be every possibility that he may try to bring them in on a permenant basis all boding well for the future of the club. Buy them young on the cheap and sell them on later and make a profit, it's the only way really we will grow financially as a club at the rate we want as fans.

"We have got ourselves a hard working young man who will be ready for first team action, but will need time to settle in here. - taken off the Cochester FC official website from their manager. I hope he takes heed of those words especially the bit about settling in, he didn't exactly give himself a lot of time while up here and whatever was said by the club to get him up here it is now apparent to me having left Watford that he would do anything to get first team football without actually working hard to get into the team. Will be interesting to see what happens if he doesn't get picked straight away. Maybe his agent has a lot to do with it as well and has been bending his ear a lot.

Ok so of all seasons in the SPL this is how our first 5 matches have went. 2004-2005 - with 3 points. P5 W1 D0 L4 Beat Ross County in League Cup Finished 8th 2005-2006 - with 8 Points P5 W2 D2 L1 Beat Alloa in the League Cup Finished 7th 2006-2007 - with 3 points P5 W0 D3 L2 Beat Dumbarton in the League Cup Finished 8th 2007-2008 - with 0 points P5 W0 D0 L5 Beat Arbroath in the League Cup Finished 9th 2008-2009 - with 7 points P5 W2 D1 L2 Beat Arbroath in the League Cup Finished 12th and relegated 2010-2011 - with 4 points P5 W1 D1 L3 Beat Queens Park and Peterhead in the League Cup Finished 7th THIS SEASON 2011-2012 - 1 point P5 W0 D1 L4 LOST to Ayr in the League Cup Finished ?? We are potentially only one win away from being in the same position as we were in four of those seasons then. I think the fall out has came from the way we ended last season and the sense of encouragement and joy fans had from last season, we fully expected the team to kick on from that. There is nothing to say that we will not as there are 33 games of the league season still to go but I just think it is the nature of the defeats and performances that have people asking the questions they are.

Agree with ICT and Old Caley Girl, I can't actually find one quote on here that says he must go. Can anyone actually provide me with one from this thread or even the site that says he must go? We are all fans of the club that care about them a lot who pay our money to the club in some capacity or another and are entitled to be asking questions, that is what we are doing asking questions and voicing concerns and sicussing the current climate of our club.