Butcher is trying to persuade Ian Black to stay at Caley according to the P&J.

According to them the Pre-Contract can be abolished but apparently Blackies still intent on going.

IMO it would be worth persuading him to change his mind.

What do other folks think?

Butcher is trying to persuade Ian Black to stay at Caley according to the P&J.

According to them the Pre-Contract can be abolished but apparently Blackies still intent on going.

IMO it would be worth persuading him to change his mind.

What do other folks think?

I'd love him to stay but can we offer him anything close to what Hearts will be paying him?

Already being discussed here and the Sun has quoted Black today as saying that he is committed to signing for Hearts "the deal is done"

that is certainly one thing you can say about Blackie. He is committed. He is committed to ICT until the end of the season and committed to Hearts beyond that. we will not change his mind no matter how hard we try. Shame TB wasnt in place earlier ... perhaps it wouldnt have got as far as a pre-contract !!!

that is certainly one thing you can say about Blackie. He is committed. He is committed to ICT until the end of the season and committed to Hearts beyond that. we will not change his mind no matter how hard we try. Shame TB wasnt in place earlier ... perhaps it wouldnt have got as far as a pre-contract !!!

Would have to agree Scotty. I think had Butcher came in earlier Black would still be an ICT player beyond this season and Don Cowie perhaps as well. But you have to credit Black for his loyalty both to us and to his future employers. I know he supported Hearts as a boy and there is more money but the only downsides would be is that the club's run by a mad man and they already have a host of midfielders. I know some Hearts fans have questioned the signing of another midfielder.

Edited March 11, 200916 yr by ajsict92

Players like Kingston are likely to be away come the end of the season (they can't afford to keep him on ?15k per week [allegedly]) so Black may well get more of a chance than some think. I don't think ICT can offer him anything he couldn't get or better at Hearts. He wants to go there but in the meantime he wants to help ICT out and keep us up. Can't ask for more than that.

Perhaps the most positive aspect of this story is that by wanting Black to stay, Butcher is confirming that he is planning on being here next season!

See the other thread for comments by Gillian Black. Dunno who she is but she seems to know a lot about Ian.

Edited March 11, 200916 yr by starchief

Be great if blackie stayed but you cant stop someone moving to there boyhood club.

All the best blackie!!!!

He's moving back to his native Edinburgh and more than doubling his salary at the same time. Can't see him changing his mind.

Has anyone who signed a pre-contract before changed there minds and stayed at the club???

that is certainly one thing you can say about Blackie. He is committed. He is committed to ICT until the end of the season and committed to Hearts beyond that. we will not change his mind no matter how hard we try. Shame TB wasnt in place earlier ... perhaps it wouldnt have got as far as a pre-contract !!!

Would have to agree Scotty. I think had Butcher came in earlier Black would still be an ICT player beyond this season and Don Cowie perhaps as well. But you have to credit Black for his loyalty both to us and to his future employers. I know he supported Hearts as a boy and there is more money but the only downsides would be is that the club's run by a mad man and they already have a host of midfielders. I know some Hearts fans have questioned the signing of another midfielder.

He didnt support hearts as a lad, he played for them in his dads team, they asked him to sign then but he chose to go to blackburn, his dad did play for them though, he is a die hard man u supporter and from what i hear had a season ticket for old trafford until he turned pro, i still think TB can do something but as i said on another post, it hinges on a number of factors, one being TB staying.

that is certainly one thing you can say about Blackie. He is committed. He is committed to ICT until the end of the season and committed to Hearts beyond that. we will not change his mind no matter how hard we try. Shame TB wasnt in place earlier ... perhaps it wouldnt have got as far as a pre-contract !!!

Would have to agree Scotty. I think had Butcher came in earlier Black would still be an ICT player beyond this season and Don Cowie perhaps as well. But you have to credit Black for his loyalty both to us and to his future employers. I know he supported Hearts as a boy and there is more money but the only downsides would be is that the club's run by a mad man and they already have a host of midfielders. I know some Hearts fans have questioned the signing of another midfielder.

He didnt support hearts as a lad, he played for them in his dads team, they asked him to sign then but he chose to go to blackburn, his dad did play for them though, he is a die hard man u supporter and from what i hear had a season ticket for old trafford until he turned pro, i still think TB can do something but as i said on another post, it hinges on a number of factors, one being TB staying.

His dad played for hearts did he not?? He always supported hearts since his dad was there he was also a ball boy for a while there aswel

I agree, he would be well worth persuading.

Points why he WILL move though: Double the wages, If hearts finish 3rd he will be playing european football, Also he will be at a bigger club, so more recognition and possibly being picked up by George Burley!

Too many things let slide and stay at Caley. I believe he is commited to us til the end though!

I think that it has been said on another thread Gillian - but Blackie would only even consider staying if he knew that Butcher was as well - that could be the crucial factor. As Yngwie says that is a "biggie" all round. Blacks decision may lead us to the other. Of course it was down to Brewster and the muppets - some of us saw what was happening way down the line - there cant be any now who can see how poorly Blackie was treated.

we tempted dargo! DARGOOOO??? WHERE ARE YOUUUU?????

we tempted dargo! DARGOOOO??? WHERE ARE YOUUUU?????

Remeber brewster was in charge but now we have a guy who nos what hes doing

we tempted dargo! DARGOOOO??? WHERE ARE YOUUUU?????

Remeber brewster was in charge but now we have a guy who nos what hes doing

no, it was cc at the time.

we tempted dargo! DARGOOOO??? WHERE ARE YOUUUU?????

Remeber brewster was in charge but now we have a guy who nos what hes doing

no, it was cc at the time.

Was it?? . We'll just blame brew anyway :thumb04:

we tempted dargo! DARGOOOO??? WHERE ARE YOUUUU?????

Remeber brewster was in charge but now we have a guy who nos what hes doing

no, it was cc at the time.

Was it?? :thumb04: . We'll just blame brew anyway :018:

:D ;) yes, it was his fault for everything lol, :015: i agree

that is certainly one thing you can say about Blackie. He is committed. He is committed to ICT until the end of the season and committed to Hearts beyond that. we will not change his mind no matter how hard we try. Shame TB wasnt in place earlier ... perhaps it wouldnt have got as far as a pre-contract !!!

Would have to agree Scotty. I think had Butcher came in earlier Black would still be an ICT player beyond this season and Don Cowie perhaps as well. But you have to credit Black for his loyalty both to us and to his future employers. I know he supported Hearts as a boy and there is more money but the only downsides would be is that the club's run by a mad man and they already have a host of midfielders. I know some Hearts fans have questioned the signing of another midfielder.

He didnt support hearts as a lad, he played for them in his dads team, they asked him to sign then but he chose to go to blackburn, his dad did play for them though, he is a die hard man u supporter and from what i hear had a season ticket for old trafford until he turned pro, i still think TB can do something but as i said on another post, it hinges on a number of factors, one being TB staying.

His dad played for hearts did he not?? He always supported hearts since his dad was there he was also a ball boy for a while there aswel

yes his dad did play for them, but as previously said he played for tynecastle as a boy in his dads team, they were automatically picked for ball boys.

It would be great if we kept him. He is a fantastic asset to the club. I shall be very sorry to see him go and I hope that when he comes back as a Hearts player next season we shall all give him the cheer he deserves.

Can we blame Brewster for the credit crunch?

i'll be sad to see we blackie go to the jam tarts. but i dont think he'll change his mind. his family live down in edinburgh and blackies dad was like a coach or something. and blackie supported them as a boy.

Kerr is better than Black.Watch the team next year and it will become apparent.

I think that it has been said on another thread Gillian - but Blackie would only even consider staying if he knew that Butcher was as well - that could be the crucial factor. As Yngwie says that is a "biggie" all round. Blacks decision may lead us to the other. Of course it was down to Brewster and the muppets - some of us saw what was happening way down the line - there cant be any now who can see how poorly Blackie was treated.

YOU should know there is always TWO sides to every story, but then if you had KNOWN what was happening then it would not have only been SEEN by YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The guy will always be a ICT legend, good luck to him on his move south though, my only regret is I wish I could have got to see him play more times than I have, with the club where he belongs.