http://www.ictfc.com/news/club-news/2169-statement-unacceptable-behaviour

2 hours ago, Charles Bannerman said:

My understanding is that SPFL rules prevent the same individual from being COO and Academy Director. Danny has hence moved entirely to the football side, overseeing Project Brave as well as other football matters, so is by no means "gone". The operational side, I believe, is being undertaken by Jim Oliver and there is some marketing input as well.

I am interested to note that Phenom appears so well versed with ICT's behind the scenes operations that he is in a position to write them off as "an absolute shambles"..... but at the same time he appears not even to know who does which job nor even who is or isn't in the employ of the club.

The practice I spoke about in an earlier post of comparing willies behind the bike sheds in the hope that yours will be the smallest so you can blame your parents for it seems to be alive and well.

It always seems to have to be somebody else's fault.

phenom

ˈfɪnɒm/

noun

NORTH AMERICANinformal

 

1. a person who is outstandingly talented or admired; a star.

   "the newest pop phenom"

47 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

It could also be suggested that if the club had a working and viable fans' organisation, one of the many benefits would certainly have been the fans being kept better informed in a number of ways.

nope thats a complete cop-out. The status of CJT or any other body is irrelevant. The club should be communicating through their website, twitter, facebook, instagram, email mailing lists or any other customer Db they have.  

If they choose to publicise information through CJT, CTO, traditional media ... or any other interested third parties or some combination thats fine too but it should not be their primary tool. When they seemingly go OTT on something that seems trivial on the face of it and then have complete radio silence on a matter that many fans and shareholders might find interesting or indicative of our future plans or direction then this just opens the whole floor up to the conspiracy theorists to wonder why it happened and why there was nothing said? Your explanation makes sense, so why not just say that ....  

 

 

45 minutes ago, weeman said:

phenom

ˈfɪnɒm/

noun

NORTH AMERICANinformal

 

1. a person who is outstandingly talented or admired; a star.

   "the newest pop phenom"

Ha Ha. I am not outstandingly talented or a star I just like planes

Edited March 28, 20187 yr by Phenom

Gordon Fyfe must be away with Danny Macdonald and that's why there has not been any communication 

34 minutes ago, Scotty said:

nope thats a complete cop-out. The status of CJT or any other body is irrelevant. 

I'm not at all suggesting that CJT is the whole answer, nor even a substantial part of it, but it's far from irrelevant. One of the important functions of a fans' organisation is to keep comminications open with the board and to chivvy them if necessary if they feel information is thin or deficient. They have at least a "Tesco role" - every little helps.

For instance, I am absolutely certain that someone within a properly functioning CJT would have got wind of the Danny thing a while ago and done the "What's this all about?" bit.

This, remember, is a board which has never known being called to account by a fans' organisation since there has never been a functioning one during its tenure.

When I heard that there had been some kind of change, I asked around and indeed I have been a bit surprised that this rearrangement - albeit apparently consistent with SPFL rules - hasn't been placed in the public domain, given that Danny's original COO appointment had been well documented.

Edited March 28, 20187 yr by Charles Bannerman

5 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

I'm not at all suggesting that CJT is the whole answer, nor even a substantial part of it, but it's far from irrelevant. One of the important functions of a fans' organisation is to keep comminications open with the board and to chivvy them if necessary if they feel information is thin or deficient. They have at least a "Tesco role" - every little helps.

For instance, I am absolutely certain that someone within a properly functioning CJT would have got wind of the Danny thing a while ago and done the "What's this all about?" bit.

When I heard that there had been some kind of change, I asked around and indeed I have been a bit surprised that this rearrangement - albeit apparently consistent with SPFL rules - hasn't been placed in the public domain, given that Danny's original COO appointment had been well documented.

I think Charles hits the nail on the proverbial head on this. If CJT ever gets functioning properly again, then they could play a huge role in getting better communication between club and fans and it is much easier for the club to communicate on the bigger issues with one supporters body. I have no issues with the club pursuing any other avenues of communication such as Facebook etc but for major issues, having a representative supporters body is a must.

Was not at Perth and have no knowledge of any incident but we do have an element of fans who are, frankly, a disgrace and who appear to want to become our version of casuals. I have no issues  with the club statement what so ever and some of the criticism of the board on here is embarrassing. If people think they can do better, then try to get on the board and change things which brings me back to CJT.........

So it's somehow CJT's fault that the club aren't doing what they said they would with regards to being open, transparent and more communicative? ?

A functioning CJT would be a good vehicle by which to hold them to account...but in the absence of that, someone who had, say, a weekly newspaper column could use that to highlight the situation...especially if they are reliably informed...no?

7 hours ago, Row S said:

Aside from the mystery "incident" in the main stand, the mini pitch invasion after the goal did bother me in terms of the possible repercussions for the club.    

This. I get that they were excited. But there's no need to go on the pitch and definitely no need to confront the other team's players. 

That's just idiotic behaviour and there is no justification for it. 

Won't someone PPLLEEAASSEE think of the children! *sobs into handkerchief* 

39 minutes ago, CaleyD said:

So it's somehow CJT's fault that the club aren't doing what they said they would with regards to being open, transparent and more communicative? ?

A functioning CJT would be a good vehicle by which to hold them to account...but in the absence of that, someone who had, say, a weekly newspaper column could use that to highlight the situation...especially if they are reliably informed...no?

It could hardly be CJT's fault given that CJT has not existed in any meaningful form for a very long time, but this does show us just one possible role of a fans' organisation that actually does something. Nor is it the function of the media to take the initiative by way of transacting club business. Given also that the function of the newspaper column in question is to express opinions and not to break news, I would have thought that one or two views on the eternal soap opera which has been the perpetual dysfunctionality of CJT would be higher up the list of the columnist's priorities.

I look forward to reading the columnists thoughts on CJT tomorrow ?

20 minutes ago, CaleyD said:

I look forward to reading the columnists thoughts on CJT tomorrow ?

CJT is in the queue. Tomorrow it's a combination of reflections on Saturday's cup success and how completely bogging the sponsor's product has become since AG Barr were bullied by the Nanny State into halving the sugar content because not everyone possesses the same iron self-discipline was your good self. 

I am reliably informed that there are some self-righteous shittstirrers with big penises who have turned this forum into a bit of a boring turn-off.

Danny MacDonald was at the game on Saturday, wearing official club suit and in the directors box area. If he’s moved over to the football side then that’s a good move,  IMO. He’s got background that and did well that area previously.

when I was queuing for pies at half time I saw two fights break out. Firstly some guys were trying to sing Celtic songs while standing waiting and another fan shouted at them. They exchang d words and both parties waited for security to arrive before giving it the old “mon then eh” display, safely behind stewards so nothing could actually happen. There was then a punch up further back in the queue but I didn’t see what that was about. 

It was hilarious to be honest, fail to see why a statement has to be released about it. I was disappointed because I thought we were going to get an update on the investigation into the Twitter account liking porn or when we are going to see the Duncan Shearer Memorial Under 11s Tournament,

On 3/28/2018 at 2:42 PM, RiG said:

The alleged incident(s) took place in the Main Stand at the refreshment stalls where fans of both sides were mixing. Punches were thrown and scuffles broke out. Utterly embarrassing antics especially given the ages of the fans concerned.

 

I didn't see how it ended but certainly saw the start of aggro in the Main stand refreshment stall. As an Inverness fan (no idea who the Inverness culrpit(s) were), I was embarrassed/ashamed. It started with some friendly banter from a couple of possibly well-oiled but decent-natured Dumbarton fans at the head of the catering queue offering to sing a song for us  . However it developed into aggro machismo nonsense and aggressive posturing imho because an Inverness fan came down into the refreshments area initially shouting random frustration about Vigurs but then turning his frustration/aggressive shouts towards the said Dumbarton fans (almost as though he thought they were specifically addressing him ... which they weren't). In truth, the Dumbarton lads were just looking for a laugh. I didn't perceive any ill will at that stage from them. I was close to telling the Inverness fan to pipe down but thought it might just antagonise him further and hoped it might just peter out. My aged father-in-law did actually ask him politely to stop shouting in his earhole (because that's how it felt from his close proximity). The female steward on hand was out of her depth and the Dumbarton fans having been served were encouraged to remove themselves by another steward that came on the scene ... which unfortunately involved the Dumbarton fans having to pass said Inverness fan. By this time, the Dumbarton boys had (possibly understandably) lost their sense of humour and were getting a bit aggro themselves. To be frank, I'd have been annoyed had I been in their shoes.

There may have been a physical exchange back outside the refreshment stall area with that or another Inverness fan after/in the course of the Dumbarton fans exiting the refreshment stall area.  Naturally, I don't condone either side throwing fists but, like I say, I didn't see how it ended. 

Well done for the club taking a firm stance on this.  I remember when there used to be a tannoy announcement before home matches  that said we're a family club and we should kindly refrain from foul and abusive language. It may sound corny these days but it saddens me somewhat that a very small element of our support seems to have moved away significantly from behaviour that's acceptable.

 

Edited March 29, 20187 yr by cif73
typo

Feck me we have an Old Team now as well 

Instead of shouting abuse, stick a pie (or if your an athlete like me) an apple in your mouth at half time. 

Or, sing along to the 80s rock classics usually played over the sound system. If you dont know the words, learn them. \m/

Edited March 29, 20187 yr by Guest