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I see a poster on P&B named "Caleyfan" says that Scott Boyd and Darren O'Dea will be coming (the former for an "undisclosed fee" and the other on a season long loan). Doubt either is true. It should also be noted that this is the same poster who posted rumours about Andy Kirk coming, but then claimed he made it up for some weird reason.

Read my post again I did not call all ICT fans cretins i referred to the ones that drink far too much, cause bother and get ejected from the various stadiums around Scotland as cretins Maybe you should get the Mrs to explain other peoples posts like she does on all other football matters before you even think replying in future Oh and what irony IHE accusing me of being an Orc when in fact he is the biggest Septic on this site Just for the record I despise both sides of the Old firm equally dougal So, what you are saying Dougal is that, persons who suffer from congenital hypothyroidism (cretinism) drink too much, cause bother and get ejected from various stadiums. My wife, who supports persons with learning difficulties, takes serious offence at those unjust and unfounded comparisons. Thats not what i'm saying and you know it Alex On hindsight I shouldnt have used the word cretin without really knowing what the term meant so I apologise and I'll delete my posts Sorry dougal

Wayne Rooney is supposedly quite good at scoring, both at home and away.

Do we not already have a 'new' right back signed (subject to International approval) as well as a striker (subject to fitness following injury)? What is with the sudden constant slagging of Proctor? A couple of poor early season games suddenly deletes the fact that he has been pretty solid in previous seasons (aside from his short spell as centre half under Brewster)? The team both tactically and match fitness wise will take a few weeks to gell. This is the same for a lot of teams and I recall Pele always used to say that knee jerk reactions for the first few games may be misleading. I also seem to recall we started on fire in the first quarter last year before showing relegation form for the November to March period.

------------------Tuffey Piermayr Tokely Aldred G.Shinnie -------------A.Shinnie Ross Hayes---------------------------Doran ------------Tade------Foran. Tuffey because we didn't see that much of Esson pre season and I feel the competition for the keepers spot would heat up, they are both fantastic keepers we are blessed. Everyone else is in my opinion, oh n I'll be there.