Yngwie

OK, but you can't read too much into what people say in the press, and you certainly can't base your case on it. Perhaps Bennett was wanting to lower fans expectations that there would be loads of money in the kitty for new transfers? Perhaps he was really referring to the 2nd signing on fee. Only he can answer that. But it is well known that ICT are pretty cack-handed when it comes to press communications!

Steve, it is generally accepted that Marius' contract with ICT entitled him to a cut. However, at no stage in your statement do you deny that Marius verbally agreed to waive it. That speaks volumes.

All in all it probably works out at over ?7k per week (salary ?100k + 2 sign-on instalments of say ?70k each + cut of transfer ?130k) CaleyyD, I didn't hear what the club said today. Are they no longer arging that Marius agreed to waive his cut if we accepted the lower offer from Dinamo? Whatever it is, ICT lost their main bargaining chip when they eventually had to condede on transferring the registration. The only remaining bargaining chip is that we are currently in possession of the money he wants. Normally that puts us in a strong negotiating position, but with it now seeming to be an employment law matter, there will only be one winner.

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I noticed earlier that Niculae's Wikipedia (English) entry says he is a Dinamo player, whilst the Romanian version still has him with us. I don't know which one to fix :017:

Nothing will happen, it's all just posturing.

Just wondering if anyone knows if ICT are making the long journey by bus or plane?

It's very rare that ICT unveil a player that the fans had no inkling we might sign. Which makes me fear it could be Billy Elliot. But I'm hoping for a surprise in the form of a commanding central defender.

I think "perhaps lends credence to the theory that..." is sufficiently non-accusatory! They published them before anyone had claimed anything! Until that point, details of the negotiations were quite rightly being conducted in private.

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Personally I'm waiting to see if the club have actually done anything wrong rather than adding to the many ill-informed attacks on this thread. The only thing we know for sure is that Dinamo acted in an underhand and unprofessional manner by publishing those documents, which when you consider their motives for doing so perhaps lends credence to the theory that ICT conducted their business with integrity and have been the victims of a Niculae-Dinamo stitch-up. Perhaps they were too trusting, but time will tell.

The only people who suffer from giving away part of the club, or Orion getting a bargain, are the other shareholders, it doesn't really affect the club itself.

You keep referring to the documents Dinamo published, but what about the ones they didn't publish? They may equally be in possession of an earlier letter stating the conditions that would be applied to any proposed transfer, such as ICT reaching a satisfactory settlement with the player. Who knows, but the one I would be sure of is that those documents do not form the entire correspondence or contract between the clubs. And in my dealings with international companies, I've never ever known funds to arrive in less than 3 working days!

Presumably where we stand now is that the club is not transferring Niculae's registration until he waives his right to a share of the transfer fee. A fair and reasonable stance IF it had been agreed that he would do so if the club accepted the offer from his preferred bidder rather than the highest offer. He might deny ever agreeing to that, knowing that ICT have little choice but to allow him stay with Dinamo. We'll end up with a compromise where he gets a reduced share of the transfer fee, with all parties feeling bitter about the whole saga and blaming each other in the press, and then eventually we can all move on.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is indeed the dispute, with perhaps ICT agreeing to accept 500,000 Euros thinking it was the transfer fee net of the deduction, or maybe not even being aware of this rule. We sent an invoice for 500,000, indicating that to be the net sum we expected to receive. This could also explain why on the Dinamo website when they published the documents they specifically pointed out that the mandatory 5% deduction had been applied. Why else would they point that out?

On what basis do you make that statement? The fact that you don't understand what is happening?

Whatever the problem is, it would be entirely appropriate that the club deal with it directly rather than through the media. And at this stage, we don't know for sure who, if anyone, is at fault. The BBC story would certainly explain why Dinamo Bucarest were so keen to publish the ICT documents confirming the transfer fee agreed. One guess would be that there could be some dispute over a sell-on clause? Or about who pays Marius and his agent?

Can you point to any actual performances that would back that up, or are you basing it on his reputation and international status? Based on performances for ICT he wouldn't even make my top 10.

A sad loss, after a long and distinguished career in sports broadcasting (as well as being a former Brain of Britian and semi-finalist on Mastermind!) Many would say that he should have had the letters OBE after his name long before RIP, and I would tend to agree.

I did think it was interesting that he has asked for a pay rise new contract the day after we receive a cash windfall and free up a big wage. Who's next in the queue?

I don't see how Harry can be annoyed at Scotty for saying this season is Rory's last chance when it clearly is. Let's hope he takes it. The pre-season games make him sound more promising than before.

You've also got to consider non-Marius related business. Crowds and season ticket sales have been dropping, no cup run last season, improved contracts for players. Every season we need a cup run and net profit from transfers just to break even.

I'm seeing some of our other rejects instead : Dods, Messi, Gudjonssen etc

I think this is the first time I have agreed with an entire post of yours!

For some reason I'm picturing David Sutherland screaming "Smiffy, I told you we'd accept 500,000 POUNDS!"