Laurence

On Monday they decide on Dundee or Dunfermline I think it will only be fair to vote for Dunfermline

Just annouced on Sky League 3 it is

Charged me £300 didn't valet it Told me I need a new door handle £150 And two new tyres ( before the winter) no price quoted Hows the rain in Lancs , or have you moved back here? I was in Liverpool last week having a tour of John Lennon's house Very nice trip too

I am sorry if I seem to ne hogging the floor on this one Regarding The football , When I lived in Sussex I watched The old Wimbledon at Crystal Palace, they played the most amazing football, but still the fans stayed away When the team played Man U , they gave up most of the stadium to United. It made for a fantastic day out, and a lot of money for the club Maybe season ticket holders could be given a free ticket to bring a friend with them to a St Mirren match or similar as an incentive to give up their seat

Something Don said above reminded me of JFK, in Berlin Ask not what the club can do for you, But what you can do for the club, seems to fit makes me feel rather guilty I have to take my car to Elgin today for its annual service the cost of which would more than buy a season ticket. I must cogitate that one

Just in case this is irony Maybe we should switch the fixture to Ibrox unless they cant aford to cut the grass, then we could play it at Hampden

Inter will remember the Lions that is for sure

The point I was trying to make, was that Celtic can now bank on having time to build a European squad in the knowledge that they can budget fully knowing that they will enter Europe for many years to come,given that their main rivals for the Scottish league championship are no longer in the running. As we see in England the panic which big clubs experience towards the end of the season when they see Europe slipping from their grasp is there for all to see. The reason is they have budgeted for Europe and they may not get there I take a more positive view than the contributers above , because with good buying of young talented players with potential, surely with a long term plan they can improve enough to win a few matches at that highest level. Maybe not straight away but in two or three years. Alex Fergusion took many years to build his first formidable United team. Anyway lets be optimistic, doom and gloom is not my scene. I wonder if the manager is up to it though?

Without any real contrition, without any sackcloth and ashes, from the old or the new Rangers it is hard to give Rangers any slack It someone from the old regime or even the new regime had made truly heartfelt apology to the world of football, I think I would have said, " OK bend the rules", but as it is you can't really give them much of a break All the time we hear talk of we can bring money to the game, we can save Scottish football, we can do this do that. But never we caused this mess , we robbed the game, we are to blame. We wish to help all we can. They seem to me to have a very selfish atitude to the whole dam business. If I am wrong tell me, but that's how they are coming across es[pecially in the Daily Record.

I suppose with Rangers out of the picture Celtic now can prepare a 5 year programme before Rangers can be a significant force again in the SPL Given sensible planning good management and a favourable draw at group stage , I feel within 6 years Celtic can really make an impact for Scotland in Europe. I know all the usual suspects will make it hard , the City's United's Chelsea's Barcelona's and what have you. But if Porto can do it againt the odds, maybe Celtic with good planning and knowing they have a clear Scottish route to Europe, with good financial planning who knows? The next 5 years may be good for Scotish football in Europe

Having played Rugby League myself at Colts level. I am really upset of the demise of Bradford, I much preferred the name Bradford Northern. Silly to give teams the names of animals very American Mind you Rangers old Bull seems to fit for the NewCo

The goode owd days, with 3rd Lanark Bring them back When Britsh Railways were breaking up I went to a meeting to change their name to a privitised name ( For Fire Prevention ) I suggested 3rd Lanark One man in the audience realied what II meant by 3rd Lanark Maybe we should remember nobody saved them, No Daily record campaign

Let it Be - Let it Be - Speaking words of Wisdom, - Let it be Seems to fit

Rangers is not the only club in Scotland. You would think so reading the Daily Record - me thinks

I like dates very much, 12th or 13th of July hardly matters King William was actually the husband of the Queen Mary, daughter of James, who abdicated. William to all intents and purposes in modern times was similar to Prince Philip. If the Scots were so interested in the British crown, why did they not join the Caveliers to defeat Cromwell? Anyway not to spark an off topic row I have posted elsewhere

I could say the money I paid in taxation whether income, or VAT, or on my fuel, contributed to Rangers being in a better position to defeat ICT and a whole host of other teams. That really makes me cross. I have just had a letter ( I have a small business) from the tax authority demanding several thousands pounds, not for last year but for the future years, on a guesstemate of my potential earnings. I just wonder who knew about Rangers demise within the club, surely all the players , their accountants, the club auditors, the management, all got letters from the Revenue explaining their tax was outstanding. Were Rangers giving the players false documents( P60) about tax paid. I just wonder?

On Sky today A poll of the old Rangers club , idicated over 80% of them were happy with a fresh start in Division 3 Surely that is all that matters. The genuine spectators have been hurt enough. Let them support their new team in the SFL division 3 with safeguards that the books are properly audited and a fan club representitive attends all board meetings. Which is how all clubs should operate anyway in my opinion. No lightning striking twice should be the order of the day.

Could be a new song for the New rangers Not my own work read it on the Daily Record site Oliver! meeting Fagan Song - You've Got to Pick a Pocket or Two ... Made me smile - Any other suggestions for a new song for a new club Somewhere over a Rainbow - perhaps or Never felt more like singing the blues ????

I noticed in this mornings Daily Record the following The Headline 'OUT' After 120 years in the top flight of Scottish football, Rangers are Out I take issue with this because the club that applied for membership of the SPL has never kicked a ball Do The press not realise this is a new company with no history, and no debts. and no records I think and it is just my opinion, the NewCo should send all the parifinallia of the discredited and bancrupt earlier Rangers to the Kelvingrove museum. Just like Milton Keynes Dons did with all the relics they got from the old Wimbledon. They are now on display in the Merton Borough Town Hall. A New start a new day and forget the past Daily Record. It's history. Hanging on to diccredit past will do the Rangers no good at all.

The past is past, don,t wollow in it Lets look to the future lots of exciiting derby games

I was reminded the other day by a Rugby League following friend of mine, who told me when the Fulham R L club was bought out a few years ago. All the best players left the club with the permission of the courts, because the rule is new owners cannot claim the previous contracts. Theuy all have to be resigned Could that have ramifications for the new Rangers?

No...they don't. I have seen absolutely no quantifiable evidence whatsoever that shows that statement to be true....it just seems to be the more that someone says it, the more they seem to believe it. You don't keep feeding drugs to an addict just because they think they need it, and if Scottish Football needs a few years of cold turkey to realise just how bad the situation was and how they can have a better life without it, then so be it. Ok - OK - OK - Don't get cross - I was only putting a point of view, no big deal

I agree with every word people have said about this But lets remember we live in a real world - Leeds United a very big British City were given no mercy , with a 25 point deduction and to all intents and purposes forced to play lower division football, But having said that an accomodation will have to be found for a reborn Rangers somehow, Scottish football needs Rangers. Maybe a fan buy out and the club run by the supporters using only gate money and Sky money would surfice and repayment of the debts to creditors repaid over say 10 years. The SPL could monitor all board meetings and check accounts on a regular basis. But if they allow a free reign to another board with money grabbing and sucess at any cost directors, sooner or later the problem will occur again that is for sure.

** does anyone wish to enlighten Laurence in regard to the historical "issues ** Have you been on that strong Lancashire beer again immortal. I am too old to wory about historical issues. All that matters is the present - and the future will look after itself - ( George Harrison. )

This has got to be good for the region. Lets hope Elgin City will be next, The fans of the local clubs deserve the benfits of reduced travel. I find it hard to believe though that a team from a small town like Dingwall has overpowered the big boy like Dundee , Falkirk, Hamilton, Partick, Raith, I find it really hard to understand, I really do.