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My view is we have 20 plus games to get 4 points more the the 6 teams above us and we are top six that's acheivable Football is all about confidence especially for a striker rooney was a prime example of this didn't score alot in his first season but when he started scoring he couldn't stop scoring the same goes for the rest of the team a result and a good performance on Saturday could change our fortunes

"Mother Teresa never joined in anti-war demonstrations. She only joined in peace demonstrations" Terry Butcher, August 2011 So let's have a thread on what's great about Terry Butcher and what he's brought to this club, instead of what's bad about Butcher. We have the lowest budget in the league, sit 1 point off safety, but we have the ex-England Captain, Terry Butcher as manager. How far has this club come that we have someone who's image is so iconic in British if not world football. He ain't perfect, he's made mistake, quite a few since the summer in fact, but I for one am glad he's our manager. Sam Allardyce was relegated twice with Bolton, and won promotion twice with the same club. Terry Butcher has increased our image in British football. He has brought us '2010 with Terry and Mo'. The amazing away run that will never IMO be beaten by an ICT manager in our history. Let's give him a chance for the rest of the season. Let's get 100% behind the team. We the support, along with the players, and back room staff are the club. We all have our disagreements but we all have the best interests in our heart. The team, the club, ourselves, need us now!

It's the fine line thing again. Assuming we'd managed to hang on to our lead for another 5 mins on Saturday the whole complexion of the forums would be different. I think we should write off this season with many lessons learnt already and settle for 11th place which is more than achievable. On the subject of lessons learnt, what really gets me is the goal differnce thing. For a team that was relegated on goal difference we dont seem to have evolved so to speak.........added to this the fact that we went down and got straight back up which is IMO a feat that may never happen again, talk about getting out of jail? The only thing I'm looking forward to, other than moving off the foot of the table is Doran coming back. I am confident he will make a difference.

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