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Aye. The last game he managed us at Caley stadium, I belted down to the side of the tunnel at the end and shouted "Don't do it Terry! Hibs will **** you up!" - so he can't say he wasn't warned.

How are the people who wanted Butcher and more so Petrie out in your eyes not supporters? I don't see how calling for a manager to be sacked who plummeted your team to such depths is un-supporting. If he can't keep them up considering where they were, then why should he be allowed to continue? People wanted what was best for their club - Butcher was a car crash. Butcher has only really 'built' a decent side here by the way and maybe at Motherwell. Two clubs - that's in no way a proven track record. I don't think from what I gather, that this decision was rushed either - after all, they were relegated two weeks ago and Dempster comes across to me like an intelligent and well thought out woman who has a good record at Motherwell. She could well turn out to be a great signing by Hibs in the long run, but she's got to get the decision right and I think there's far more chance she'll get it right than some of the other jokers involved there.

I have no doubt that given time TB might have managed to spark Hibs back into life ... but therein lies his first and potentially biggest mistake. Did his ego make him think that he would be the first Hibs manager in recent history that would actually be given any time? He has a record of being piss poor to begin with at most clubs, but when given time (eg 'Well and ICT), and allowed to assemble his own squad, then he has proved he can turn things around or at least have them heading in the right direction. I have said it before, and will say it again ... I thank TB for what he achieved at ICT, for the players he brought in, and the raised profile he afforded us. It is appreciated and will be looked on fondly .... but, he chose to turn around and bite the hand that fed him, and would have fed him for life had he wanted it, and for the utterly disrespectful manner in which he did so I can offer no sympathy for him whatsoever. He got what was coming to him plain and simple !

Crazy decision by Hibs. I have mixed emotions. On the one hand, serves him right for walking out on us. There's always going to be some bitterness when someone decides they can do better and 'dumps' you. On the other hand, I'm appreciative of and grateful for the fantastic job he did for us. It wasn't unreasonable for him to have a crack at a bigger club. He'd earned it. Hibs are a sleeping giant. (20,000 seater stadium, £5,000,000 training complex, Capital of Scotland). They've been rotten for years, and have a squad full of overpaid, overblown Championship / League 2 level players. Butcher isn't to blame for this. He has a proven track record of building good teams from scratch on a shoestring budget, as he proved year after year for us. It's an absolute joke that they've sacked him before he's had a chance to bring in his own players.

Went over to P&B to see how the mood was...spent ages searching for a Butcher thread on the Premiership board.....

I'd like to think it's not intentional and just the way the written word is read but this does come across with a tone of sexism in it. LD did her job well at M'well and in the background. Joining Hibs has made her higher profile and she's been asked to do a role with a higher profile as Petrie intends to step back, this just means we are hearing more of and from her - not that she is "starting to believe her own hype". The only person in this sorry tale who believed their own hype were the three stooges who left ICT. I fail to see what was sexist about the post , care to elaborate ?

No doubt he'll surface at some point in the media as a pundit, and I don't think he'll regard himself as finished as a manager yet. As far as buttressing his own ego goes, I think he can genuinely say that he didn't get enough time at Hibs and as others have said, perhaps either Petrie or Dempster have thrown him under the bus in an effort to deflect from wholesale infrastructure problems at Easter Road. Time will tell, but it's not going to make TB look at his own failings any harder than in the past, which is a shame. It's clear that he had lost the dressing room and that anyone associated with him will be tanished so I can't see Marsalla or Malpas surviving the process. They will be the only things at Easter road that he held control over, so guilt by association is all that is left to them. TB had his ideal environment here, in that the club was small enough and his stature big enough for him to control everything. Transferring that to Hibs, creating a team in his own image and succeeding where so many others had failed would have been irresistable to TB, but there is no way that he could ever have coped with diluting that control to Leann Dempster of all people and so everything has ended in the only way it was ever going to - just a bit earlier than most would have thought. TB did a lot of good things for this club, and I liked the guy on a personal level. Because of that I ain't going to revel in this, or rejoice in his downfall. All I'm going to do is see how John Hughes builds on what TB left and enjoy where that takes us. Best of luck Terry. see that spellchecker.........

Yeah, it'll be interesting to hear Terry's 'take' on it all, when he eventually goes public! I hope he can find the dignity to admit that he made a mistake in moving from here. Pele, Brew and Robbo all swallowed their pride and have, at one time or other, conceded that they left too soon and regretted it. Unfortunately (for Butcher), the manner of his leaving means that he's burned-his-bridges and he will never be a candidate for a return here. I will however, miss his after-match interviews on Radio Scotland which were often amusing and certainly different to the often cliché-ridden tripe offered by the likes of Danny Lennon and others. Not sure if Terry would be a very good poker player as his tone of voice always betrayed what he was feeling! - a win and his ebullient mutterings were delivered with witty enthusiasm but after a loss his demeanour was markedly different - his observations being spoken in a much slower, almost depressed manner. But always entertaining. For the record, Butcher lasted 7 months at Hibs; Robertson survived 6 months at Hearts; Brewster was gone from Dundee United after 9 months while Paterson was fired from Aberdeen after 15 months ( I didn't realise it was that 'long' until checking)! However, I feel it's maybe premature to be writing Terry's football obituary - I have a feeling he'll 'remain in the game' in some capacity.

I would find the person who got korea and ask for a swap

Don Cowie been offered a new contract by Cardiff, but rumours about him heading North (to "wealth-off-the-radar The Rangers") Some interesting chat on the Cardiff forums: Here's hoping he's been reading about The Ranger's financial state and signs for us for a wage he will actually see!

I get the feeling that she gave TB every opportunity to convince her that he was the man with the ability and the vision to lead Hibs straight back up and he singularly failed to do so hence she made the reasonable and consiered decision to dispense with him and recruit someone who, in her view is the right person. Some of the criticism of her not having any football or coaching experience, in my view, smacks of sexism. Football club CEOs generally don't have that personal skill set. what the good ones do have is the ability to identify and recruit those who do and she seems to have proved herself adept at that in her previous post at Fir Park.

A little off topic, but I get the feeling this Leeann Dempster is starting to believe her own hype. As far as I'm aware she has no football experience or coaching credentials, but she's popping up on the news and in the papers talking about her 'football plans' for Hibs. Another egomaniac bureaucrat interfering in the background, exactly what Hibs need. Terry Butcher may be a former Uefa Cup winner, England Captain, Scotland assistant manager, and one of the most successful SPL managers in recent years - "but ah know better, ciz ah used tae run Motherwell like." Motherwell's recent purple patch obviously had nothing to do with Stuart McCall or their strong nucleus of experienced players. It was all down to Leeann. Wouldn't be surprised to see Hibs relegated again next season.

No matter your opinion on the man, I personally think the situation for managers in football is absolute madness. I know it's a result driven sport but no one is given any time these days. Being sacked after 7 months after inheriting a crap team is just mental, plus after releasing half the squad they now have no manager roughly 6 weeks before pre season. Looks like the hibs board are resigned to staying in the championship got at least 2 years! On Stuart McCall going there, not a chance, who is going to give up a team that consistently finishes top 3 and has European football next year for the championship? All in all the heart and soul of football is getting ripped out of it and it is purely about making money these days.

I am with AlexJones on this one, to me this decision by Leann not going to help Hibs at a time when the most important thing is to get themselves back into the top division. Terry has now got his comeuppance for the manner in which he deserted us, that is pleasing but for me he did a very great deal for our club and through his staff brought in a nucleus of players who could well give us the most entertaining and successful season ever and for that I applaud him. Leann has rushed into this, swayed by the wrong element of so called fans and the power struggle within the boardroom, in doing so she has made a blueprint that could well come back to haunt her. She has fired a manager with a proven track record of revitalising a squad without giving him any chance of proving himself at what he is best at doing. I wouldn't care to be in her position should she fail to bring the Leith side back out of the mire in very quick time. 'Bye Terry you certainly got it all wrong that time....hope you learn from it!!!!

I was trying to explain the concept of schadenfreud to somebody the other day. This thread sums it up beautifully!

Oh well just another Caley manager to discover that the grass is not always greener on the other side

Well well. From Tesco cakes to M&S cakes to no cakes at all....

A bit like you bleating on about the merger I suppose.