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Whilst I appreciate what you are saying Kingsmills I honestly believe the whole setup needs a good shake so that we don't need to be looking over our shoulder all the time. Structure, not necessarily personel is what I'm talking about.

People seem to be forgetting that Daniel started against Dunfermline in the Challenge Cup. If I recall, he started brightly enough but rather fell out of the game after that. I feel he is still best used as a impact sub at this stage of his career. Knocking in goals for the under 18s will give him both game time and confidence, and he will also get valuable experience being part of the 1st team match day set up with regular appearances as sub. I would worry that giving him a run in the starting XI might just knock the stuffing out of him. It is all very well to talk about Rooney (W) and Rashford but they are the exception. It is far more common to see players burst on the scene as teenagers then drift into obscurity. Our other strikers may not have set the heather on fire but their strike rate isn't bad. Having been awarded the goal on Saturday, White now has 3 and Oakley 2, both at a rate of roughly a goal every 2 games. We'd take that at the end of the season. We've still not seen a lot of Austin but he strikes me as the more composed and natural finisher and could well be the surprise packet of the season. It's true we haven't scored many goals overall this season but a part of that is the lack of goals from attacking midfield. Polworth, Walsh, Doran and Calder have just one goal between them. Calder's not had much game time but we really need more goals from the others. But back to young Daniel. He burst onto the scene last year and as a result I think some people's expectations for him for this season are unreasonable. He is clearly an extremely promising talent but he is far from the finished article. He needs nurturing and I think the way the manager is handling him is spot on.

Thank you Doofers Dad,one of the best constructed posts on here that Ive seen. I thought I was watching different games as most of the other posters all saw it differently than myself. That in itself is ok as its all about opinions, but I Iike the stats too as they back up opinions , so you have given me my sanity back.

Goals win games and sadly averaging just over 1 goal per match isn't going to win you the league. A solution to the creativity and goals has to be the priority - whether that's getting by until Austin & Oakley return and hoping one of them goes on a run of sustained fitness and goals or a gamble is taken in Jan to bring someone in.

You are right on that one Dave I have never heard that either but Billy Dodds would never be able to get his lips round that one

What's this trequartista, right out of Football Manager that one. Never heard that on MOD

Agree to a point, last year was an aberration and not a fair comparison. Partick sacked their manager for less. The negativity is just disappointment, and understandable, people have seen 7.5 hrs of football and 6 of those were draws with teams we were expected to beat. There might be many dour fans, but isn't that the point of football - to be entertained and escape the humdrum - I'm not sure where the lime between duty and obligation and entertainment is in football. Anyway, yes - everything is on track, but too early for plaudits.

Had a great day out. Thanks to everyone that said hello. But seriously, White looked out of place and frustrated.

Kids booked on. Should be a fun night!