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270 minutes of football in 8 days shouldnt be a problem for fit professional footballers, every game a footballer plays carries a risk of a knock so cant see that being an issue i can see there being changes however i cant see Butcher dropping our best players As you say i can see Barrowman and Duncan possibly coming in but other than that cant see many other changes

The league is a priority for us however decent runs in the cups are very important for us as an added source of income. I think field our strongest team, i believe we have a strong first team capable of competing on more than on front

Absolutely. i'd be inclined to give McBain a try as well. i wouldnt mind seeing Renegades line-up but in a 4-4-2 with Foran left and Hayes right with Rooney and Barrowman up front

thats way too sensible for a Renegade prediction, a GK in goals??? two defenders in defence?? :tonguecheek:

Fixed it for you! i think ICT have shown in the past that they have a patient board (which IMO was a mistake in Brewsters case) and i think it is certain Butcher will get a fair chance this season. Butcher has been allowed to take in his own players but hopefully it has been budgeted for and will not affect the long term future of the club. In Dundee's case with such large sums being thrown at the team, the time in which they exepct to see a return is greatly reduced, they want instant sucsess, im pretty sure that the Dundee money men would want Dundee flying high at the top of the table for the entire season. Just like in chelsea' chase no matter what players are bought, if the manager doesnt deliver asap then he's out the door. Back to the OP, i think the fact he has won one game in ten (i think) is adequate reason for dismissal.

the one place i think technology could be useful would be in the case of goal-line debates, it is one that is frequently debated and often IMO because linesmen are intent on checking player positions for offsides that line of sight cannot sufficiently determine when a ball is over the line. the only thing is if something like that were to be introduced then where would it stop, video replays for fouls, transmitters in football boots to gauge offsides, video cameras on the referee to see his view of the game....... i think it would be hard to limit technology once it started. i do believe that more emphasis should be placed on referee coaching/training which should ensure that a consistent standard is maintained in all games. Coaching may tackle this or why not simplify the rules. All too often decisions are questioned because the rules are not black and white. in any situation there are so many rules and sub-rules that the referee has countless options on how to assess a piece of action, simplification of the rules would aid consistency IMO.

What Jocky Scott done wrong? His team have being picking up points not like Morton im pretty sure financiers of Dundee will be expecting a much higher league position after all the money they have thrown at the team

Agree with all of that

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good point and its a factor that is rife in european football but how on earth can we erradicate it, laws can punish offenders but mentality is very hard to change especially with so many foreign footballers in this country being brought up in a different football culture

dont think your alone there! :) after his antics i think almost every opposing set of fans will be hounding him from now on hoping for a reaction

So what do you propose to combat this problem?

it goes back to the age old problem in scotland, too often there is an over-emphasis on physical coaching and a dinstinct lack of technique and skills coaching

i thought he spoke pretty well actually, he was asked about the Eduardo incident and commented. if he was or is aksed about the Duncan incident similarly i imagine he would give his take on the topic Many managers will not openly berate their players in the media for diving or play acting so i dont see any problem in not speaking to the media or having a press release on the subject. Often it will be dealt with internally. Did mowbray recently comment on McGeady getting sent off for diving? not that i'm aware.... but i'm sure there would have been something said or done about it

spot on

he was doing some scouting for us

quote from the P&J today: Linky

come on we need someone to keep the bench warm could see Sutherland going out as we seem overloaded on attackers once imrie and odhiambo come back

not a fan then Harry? i'm 50/50 at the moment, seen glimpses of potential id be happy if i heard the same thing aboud Calum Davidson!

great news that Dougie and eric are making good progress, not good about Duff, leaves a little thin at the back, hope he makes a good recovery

couldnt agree more, when the rumours broke at the end of last season about him being dropped and he could be away i was extremely woried as ive always rated him. Cracking keeper and i think he showed yesterday that he's capable of winning games for us

Two excellent posts ;) there is going to be frustrating and challenging times ahead but ones which we should face and rise to the challenge.

to put it simply, IMO, the mistakes that Djebi-Zadi makes, and lets be honest he makes a lot, outweighs what he brings to the team. I hope Golly still has what it takes and can step up to claim a first team spot.

absolutely