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thats what i thought too

No mention of Gillespie in the small article in todays P&J. It mentions the scorers that Kencar provided for Elgin and also mentioned that Allison saved a penalty while Morrison and Barrowman were our scorers

My fear is that the current stance is being taken because we're already in a position where paying could sink us. So it could very well be a case of "nothing to lose" by risking an appeal. i had no idea things were so bad!

ha ha, brilliant

not sure i agree with that, did you think Foran deserved to be hooked after an hour at the weekend? i didnt think he merited getting subbed and Foran certainly didnt going by his reaction when he took his seat on the bench. Do you honestly think the only reason Butcher is a football manager is to play his 'favourites'. of course it isnt, he is trying to win games and will try do it how he sees fit, whether we agree with it or not is beside the point as we dont pick the team You think the dropping of Ryan Esson at the tail end of last season was butchers attempt at winning games ? I think there is a lot more to that situation than we know about, i dont think he dropped Esson in an attempt to lose us games though. Do you honestly think Butcher is trying to make us lose games?

not sure i agree with that, did you think Foran deserved to be hooked after an hour at the weekend? i didnt think he merited getting subbed and Foran certainly didnt going by his reaction when he took his seat on the bench. Do you honestly think the only reason Butcher is a football manager is to play his 'favourites'. of course it isnt, he is trying to win games and will try do it how he sees fit, whether we agree with it or not is beside the point as we dont pick the team

---------------------------ESSON----------------------- TOKELY-------BULVITIS---------MUNRO-------GOLLY PROCTOR------COX--------MCBAIN-----------FORAN -------------BARROWMAN----------IMRIE----------- If Hayes is fit then put him in the team ahead of Barrowman with Foran going up front and Hayes going to left mid/wing

tough choice, i would say one of Foran, Esson or Tokely if i had to put down one player then Esson

------------------------ESSON----------------------- PROCTOR------TOKELY-------MUNRO-------GOLLY HAYES---------COX----------DUNCAN--------IMRIE ------------BARROWMAN-------FORAN--------------- With Foran and Imrie swapping positions periodically

get in!!!!!!!!!

Have things not turned recently where we give them our best young players and they give us ones that cant get a game for them unfortunately, your completely right!!

and tear the majority of the home fans hair out!! LDZ going forward is not the problem, its his defensive qualities or lack of which are the problem. Too many times the opposing team recognized this as a weak link and exploited the left wing for goals. I'm sorry but the Ross County game will live long in the memory as one of the worst performances ive witnessed in the flesh in a long, long time. Back four for me would read: Stratford/Proctor Tokely Munro Golly

Robbo as boss, CC as assistant manager and Bazza as first team coach with Pele as chief scout. Recipe for success?? :025:

nail on the head! that is something we seem to be unable to do at present, we have a starting game plan (which some may agree with and some may not) but when the opposition changes their formation or tactics we seem anable to adapt. That is such a crucial part to a team and i think thats why we are losing points. We need to attack at home and turn chances/possession into goals. a 4-5-1 doesnt really lend itself to attacking football if you ask me but if we are losing 3 goals at home with a 4-5-1 then we shouldnt be questioning the tactics and formation it should be the players!

you have a point and normally i would agree but i just couldnt take another beating by County spot on

i completely agree, i was extremely suprised he was hooked, looked a lot more determined than ive seen him in the past

spot on!! IMO the rot started with so many of the core of our relatively successful team being sold or allowed to be sold on. It is worrying that so many of our best players left under a certain managers tenure; Black, Rankin, Cowie, Dods, Wilson, Wyness to name a few!

i fear you may be right. what i would really like to hear is the boards and the current chairmans view on where the future of ICT lies.... are we as a club happy to stagnate in Div 1? are there any plans afoot to generate investment? are there any plans to grow the club? what are the clubs ambitions?

you have a point, but the club are telling stewards to enforce 'no standing' and even censoring words from songs so its a no win situation. I should probably add that it appears to be restricted to the home end as ive lost count of the times away fans come to our stadium and stand if they want and sing what they like. i saw a game on the TV the other week of the Manchester United vs Liverpool game and saw crowd footage of thousands of people standing. If standing at games is tolerated and also not causing direct health and safety problems at a stadium with over 70,000 fans then why is it such a problem at TCS? IMO i think the home form problem is all psychological, its not that we cant play well because we can. Its something that we need to sort out ASAP because if not we are going to see a mid-table finish in Div 1 at best!

Thats a quote from the reporter rather than Butcher. The article says that RD, DLZ and DP are all in contention, fair enough they are in contention but so is everyone else in the first team pool. The reporter is quite simply adding column inches by stating what everyone knows, if tokers and eagle dont make it then RD, LDZ and DP could replace them. No where in the article does it give any details for what Butcher plans to do with line up. Words like player x is in contention and player x has done well and i might freshen the team dont really give us any info on the starting line up maybe i'm just being pedantic because its a friday and am eagerly anticipating finishing work! :029:

didnt see anywhere in the article where Butcher was quoted as saying that he was looking at re-introducing Lionel. (thankfully IMO) That was the only reference to LDZ that i saw and the reporter is merely stating a fact that LDZ is available like any other un-injured player in the squad.

Back then players could play more than 1 game in a week and not moan about fatigue! You would think with all the sports science and fitness coaching nowadays that players would be fitter than ever. How often do we hear a manager come out and say a player wasnt match fit? 20 years ago if you didnt have a broken bone or similiar serious injury then you were fit enough to play!

spot on i think the only team in this league that have genuine quality in reserve is Dundee and even their squad in envied by SPL managers. I recall Aberdeen being interested in Leigh Griffiths but were outbid by Dundee, Griffiths hasnt even been a regular starter this season! I think the one area that may need attention is right midfield

I would be happy with that, only change perhaps would be Barroman for Sanchez i agree with Johnboy, this weekends games is an absolute must win for us, we have to shake this jekyll and hyde form, we need to build on good performances and not think we are on easy street

nice, hadnt realised that, cheers shame i noticed it too late!