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ok, I will stick my neck out too ...... 01: Rangers --------------- 02: Celtic 03: Aberdeen 04: Hearts 05: Kilmarnock 06: Dundee United --------------- 07: Hibernian 08: ICT 09: Falkirk 10: Motherwell 11: St Mirren --------------- 12: Gretna

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I dont think there is any hard and fast 'rule' per say ..... Some players get a testimonial after 5 years or 10 years, some get it after a certain number of games and very often senior players will have it built into contracts as a sweetener. I think the main thing in awarding a testimonial is that the player is deserving of it and Barry Wilson certainly falls into that category for ICT as did Ross Tokely. I would add Grant Munro and Richard Hastings to the list for future testimonials. Richard is entering his 11th season at the club (albeit with a 3 year break in the middle - similar to Barry !), and Grant - believe it or not - is entering his 10th ICT season. Although we havent yet added all the matches and reports to our stats program you can click on the squad list to see the seasons that all players were signed for, and if you sort the list "by number" you will see the longest serving players at the top of the page. The "numbers" we used were the player numbers issued by Ian Broadfoot in his stats spreadsheets so, for example, Richard was the 16th player to ever sign for the club and is still going strong ..... (Tokely is #41 and Barry is #42)

I hope it is not moved ..... Sunday 5th August is the the expected debut of David Beckham in MLS. The game against Toronto (in Toronto) has an early kick-off so I would miss the ICT game :007: ..... or maybe I could sell my Beckham tickets ..... $30 tickets ( $30 is face value in season ticket pack but it is $110 if bought on the day) are reportedly going on eBay and other sites for around $600 or $700

thanks for the goals Craig but may the curse strike and your scrotal itch not be soothed by any creams known to man nor beast .... with the exception of IHE :017:

closing this thread - same question being asked on the other fixture thread(s).

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Yes !

If CC sees promise in him then whats to stop ICT taking him on and farming him out to the likes of County on a season long loan where County pick up the bulk or all of his wages... he gets the experience and we get the player back when CC is ready .... even at the level he is playing at 20+ goals is pretty decent

I remember that :rotflmao:

Maybe they're hoping he will change his mind and stay :023:

I doubt we will play anything other than 'local' sides - the senior leagues wont have returned from end of season break when ICT are there.

At the end of the day no player is bigger than the club as this has been proved time and time again. The player's own agent said that ICT had made a "very good offer" only 2 weeks ago but today hinted that the offer was not good enough when he said you had to put the offer "into context with the goals that Craig had scored for the club and his market value." That to me smacks of rampant ego - either by the player or the agent. In that circumstance, it makes Mr Dargo no better than any other mercenary (think Bingham or Brown) that has jumped ship for the lure of a fatter paycheck and therefore unworthy of our continued support. I have no problem with applauding the likes of Robson going to Dundee Utd, Wyness going to Hearts or even Bobby Mann going to Dundee as they all moved for legitimate reasons that were either to do with stepping up to a higher level than ICT was at at the time or in the case of Bobby, being able to actually have a home life with his family but that agent's statement is either badly worded or totally mercenary. [note: I also have no problem with Darren Dods moving to United either as he was totally up front with the club and the fans and professional to the end.] As with any player, I do thank Dargo for his contribution to ICT in the time he was here but I do not wish him well now that he is no longer an ICT player as his welfare is no longer my concern !!!

agree we need a couple of decent signings but it is not totally true to say no-one is coming in !!! OUT Dods - yes we need a replacement. The starting 4 of Hastings, Munro, Caff, Tokely have little or no cover for injuries and no competition for places which could lead to complacency. Brown - IMHO, Fraser has proved to be a more than adequate replacement after patiently waiting for many seasons. Ridgers is there as #2. Dargo - a blow, but not an insurmountable one. Denzil/Bayne can score goals if given service and our midfield looks good enough to provide that service. Agree we do need an additional striker though to challenge Denzil/Bayne. Rory is not ready and Buchanan (if he comes in) may need some time in the reserves before he is ready for SPL action (or he may be a sensation - in other words - an unknown quantity). Golabek - A tremendous servant to the club over the years but in all honesty did we miss him last year when he went to Livi ? NO. I wish him all the very best at County and thank him for his contribution to ICT but this is one player who can be replaced reasonably easily (or maybe has been if you consider the young left back moving up from the U19 squad). IN Paatelainen - looks a good signing, contributed at the end of last season, will benefit from full time training and I predict he will be one of our 2007/08 shining stars. Cowie - I dont know a lot about him to be honest, but he has been mentioned by ICT supporters for a few seasons as someone who would be good to have. I will defer to the better knowledge of my peers on this one !! Buchanan (?) - One for the future perhaps ? or maybe he could come straight into the first team squad in the same way that Paatelainen did and he has done well. If he were to form a good understanding with either Wyness or Bayne then it could be quite exciting as he does know where the back of the net is. Ridgers - Capable keeper who was #2 ahead of Mike Fraser for a long time at the club. Decent enough signing. Cant see it myself. think Charlie is a little better than that. However, I could see us signing some eastern European player(s) on the recommendation of someone like Hagi or Popescu and that could go either way .... we could unearth a gem or a dog turd. We might get the next Henrik Larsson who was, without doubt, the best transfer Scotland has seen for years (650K !!!!) or we could end up in a deep pile of "Rafael" who must rank as the worst 2.5 million that was ever spent. all we can do is wait and watch .........

I think it is way to early to predict .... With the loss of Dargo and Dods, Charlie needs to get good replacements (rather than younger 'developmental' players) for both defence and up front (I think midfield is just fine and dandy BTW). Once we see who he is signing we might have a better idea of how well we might do !!! My heart says we should hope for top 6 but realistically, with the squad we have right at this minute I would be happy with 8th/9th with any combination of Falkirk, Motherwell, St Mirren, Gretna and maybe (or should that read hopefully) Dundee Utd below us.

I have a feeling that messrs Hagi and Popescu might be busy trying to find us a suitable replacement if that reported scouting deal did indeed come to anything

thinking about it logically, our midfield is in great shape to not only contribute goals (Rankin, Paatelainen, Hart, Wilson, Black all attack minded and capable of goals) but also to provide quality balls to the strikers - Wyness, Bayne, Rory and Buchanan (?) I quite like the idea of Wilson going further forward and allowing Hart or someone else some time on the right wing, maybe not as an out and out striker but a very attacking midfielder. I think Paatelainen will come very good next year and will provide well from the left flank and with Rankin and Black able to strut their stuff in midfield (supported by Duncan) we may miss Dargo less than we think. Next season is Denzil's year - if he gets the service he will score the goals - and our midfield is looking like it may be able to provide that service.

absolutely no real point to this other than trying to get ICT up the list....... I saw on one of the Toronto boards that TFC were being voted on so added ICT .... mine is the only vote so far ..... lets get ICT up there ... only need 100 votes to get to the top 40 ! http://football.thevotefor.com/index.php

Labonte is only 23 !!! PROFILE FROM OFFICIAL DAFC SITE Daquin is 28 PROFILE FROM OFFICIAL DAFC SITE

If other teams can use their 'history' to say they are the "nth" biggest team in Scotland or have this or that size of fanbase then we can surely use our 'youth' to argue a stat like this !!!

if you listen to the audio you can hear the park ranger (or I assume so - as he is the only one with a South African accent amongst the English and American ones) say he has never seen anything like it !!!

old news ..... Errea are trying to organise it as both ICT and Qatar will be in Italy .... the stumbling block appears to be the venue for it as the two teams are several hours apart from each other. with Errea organising it, I expect it to be a 3am kickoff on the 33rd of November :015:

IHE - thanks for the input. You are really in the driving seat from the supporters' point of view as it was you who was most affected. For all your self proclaimed eccentricities you have conducted yourself extremely professionally in this matter, probably a lot moreso than people who don't know you would have thought you were capable of !!! Once this is all over and the dust has settled, if you are happy with the result and the responses (apologies?) you have received from the club then that should be an end to it. Hopefully you will be able to post something to that effect when the time comes without breaking the confidences you spoke of. .... now off you go and lick some stamps .... this sensible Johndo is very confusing :015: :015:

and perhaps a comment from the likes of IHE that he has received a satisfactory (private) response to the points that he has raised.

Given that the chairman has publicly expressed support for the singing section then I would assume he will be all for it and full of positivity. However it is a shame that the Chief Exec was either unable or unwilling to attend as it is not the chairman who is holding the ball - so to speak - on a matchday. I agree with Caley D - the past incidents have to be addressed before the future plans can be discussed ..... As far as past events are concerned, the club need to put the Dunfermline game to bed. Be big about this .... admit that errors were made, or that over-reactions occurred (on one or both sides ?). There is no need for a witch-hunt but certain assurances need to be made about what happened and what mechanisms are in place so that it doesnt happen again. If there are any internal repercussions then that should be a private matter that is dealt with internally and not made into a public or media feeding frenzy. However, IHE also needs an explanation that he is satisfied with as he was one person who was "targeted for ejection" which is a very worrying development. This explanation can be made privately to IHE, but at the very least the club needs to acknowledge that they have made this explanation so they are not accused of burying the incident. Only then can you really move on to future plans ...... I dont know what the Chairman has up his sleeve in terms of plans for the signing section, and I hate to keep harping on about Toronto FC but if he needs any example of a situation where a supporters section has been created from scratch, allowed certain latitudes compared to other areas of the ground, has good but sensible stewarding, and has, for the most part, been very well behaved then he could do worse than talk to Paul Beirne at Toronto FC. Before the club was officially a member of MLS, before any players were signed, before the ground was completed and before Mo Johnston came on board as manager, Paul put plans in motion to have a singing section across the complete south stand. He argued the toss with the suits, was given concessions for this part of the ground and managed to make it sound attractive to all 'hardcore' fans (not least because of a deeply discounted price). The end result was that this section sold out in weeks and has been a tremendous success. In MLS circles, the David Beckham story is very much playing second fiddle to the amazement most teams express at the atmosphere they experience when they visit Toronto's BMO field. 6 home games so far, 6 total sell-outs and the stands bouncing so much that engineers had to come in and do some checks that the stands can cope with it !!!