starchief

If he is that desperate to go, he has probably had too much wine already.

Hastings? He was terrific first time around and Butcher's biggest mistake second time. He spent half his time covering for Proctor meaning he forsook his own position. On comes Bambi on ice, who doesn't bother with defending at all, meaning all the goals against come via our missing left-back.

I would care if he was an extremist. Conservative, liberal, democratic socialist, green? Pffft, who cares? Racist, Islamic fanatic, fascist, extreme mysoganist etc? Beyond the pale for me. Some things are more important than a ball in the net. If I was a Sunderland fan, I'd be giving up all interest for a while.

Turns down £10,000 a week?! Yeah, good luck mate. I'm sure there are loads of opportunities for a 35 year old that was only ever a first teamer in Division 3 but a reserve in the SPL. Mad decision! We could never afford him on that basis.

I would have to agree that Barrowman is probably the worst keeper we've ever had!

Nice to know he was spoken to some time ago too. I was beginning to believe, with no news, Tel had decided to ditch our very important player.

Brazil. They may not be in Europe but you can never write them off.

I was thinking that description might well have applied to Foran myself. Maybe not now but a few years ago? The archetypal big boots.

I can just hear the critics...all he does is score goals...yeah, it's so easy. That's why run-all-day Kenny Miller is a better player than six-yard-poacher Gary Lineker.

If he leaves, who cares? His decision. No interest in him being lucky.

Just cant see myself caring too much about winning a post split 2nd division. Or even winning a pre split 2nd division. It just all seems so meaningless.

If ICT were relegated, would we celebrate promotion? Of course. Bizarre topic.

We dont. Sad but true. Caldwell is far above Berra, Webster, Wilson etc. It was an experimental team and thats what we will need more of in the next few years. Building a team like Wales have done, is more important than winning games. Not gonna be great to watch though.

Amazingly Luggy has been sacked by Southend. After saving them and with a cup final to still play in Sturrock has been asked to leave as they are just outside the play offs.What a world!

Drogba to China? They're all the same.

Erm, so what? There's a bunch of people here wishing A Shinnie well if he goes to a struggling club in the second division in England (even if it does have a fancy name). What's he going for? You have players saying how much they're a fan of Morton, St Mirren, Dundee etc but they all leave for more money and no-one seems to mind too much. "I hope one day to return to my hometown club" they say but don't add "when I'm washed up and don't have any choice except a bunch of similar paying clubs". Footballers are mercenaries? Of course. To an extent that's ridiculous.

unfortunately, that is very true.

What a weekend. ICT gets top six and the Saints (my home team) win the cup. Oh to be in Paisley tonight.

Is Butcher the man for the job? YES!

I agree with Adams somewhat. I don't want to win a derby game where we dominated then scored a penalty, that was dubious but ultimately correct. I'd much have preferred a definite off-side goal in injury time against the run of play. That would have pleased me no end. Oh, and I hope we go for Brittain if (when) Shinnie leaves. County's best player and seems to be over the injury problems that blighted a promising early career.

I think Doran should be next up. No-one else can provide that width. He won't score as much as Hayes but he's more interested in crossing than Hayes. We' struggle to get someone that fulfills his role. He's key to the team. Without him, it's probably route one.

And look what Cowie is doing with...well, wherever he's at. Apparently he did well enough to get some Scotland caps but without looking it up, do you know where he's playing, if he's playing and how many goals he's had this season? It means nothing to most of us if he's playing out side the EPL or SPL. It's lower league football. And, as I've said before, don't complain about the state of Scottish football if you are wishing players away. This is your dream (not mine). I'd far prefer players to stay in Scotland and improve the SPL than lesser players replace them.

Already have turned down more than treble my salary (and that was to live in Paris, not Brum) but not for the same job (a similar, but definitely more admin post). Can't put a price on satisfaction. But it takes a while to realise that. I agree money does motivate players and the public at large in their jobs. But I don't get why it motivates fans. Surely, the wage packet means nothing to us? Isn't it all about football, not personal finance, to supporters? Would you applaud Shinnie if he got a job as a project manager with Microsoft because he'll make more money? Why do you care how much he earns and not the silverware he can pick up?

England's second division is only a step up in money. There's little chance of silverware or European football. Wages high but glory is zero.

But why? Not sure why Dunfermline should be losing money so readily. I know they don't like their owner but I can't remember any big name buys. They just seemed your typical 1st Division club that got a bit of success without letting it go to their head. Must have thouygh but not sure where it happened.