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i feel tokes gets more stick than he deserves, yes he hasn't been his best but he hasn't been as bad as some of our players, when you look at our defenders they aren't exactly top quality with an abundance of ability so i think we get what we pay for with our defence. but i do feel rosscoe gets a lot more stick than reqired.

I think there's a fair amount of 'anybody can beat anybody else on their day' in the league this year. It could be argued that the standard in the SPL is lower this year apart from Gretna. Killie looks like a great result. But time will tell if Hearts, Hibs or Aberdeen are any good. Anyway we only got a good result from one of the three, and beating Falkirk may not turn out to be a fabby result either. We also lost at home to Hamilton and St Mirren. Oh i agree with you that time will tell, but the point i was trying to make is there are no easy games. im not sure the standard is lower, i'd say teams in the SPL are getting better, technique in the spl is far better than what is was a few years ago, however, you are going to get players that aren't good enough. sorry im going off topic here

there's no easy games so i dont agree. we've played hearts, hibs, aberdeen and kilmarnock(who have had 5 clean sheets so far). so how can you say that's the easiest start just because rangers or celtic aren't in that list...well rangers and celtic aren't the only strong teams in the spl...the best but not the only hard opposition we face.

blackie has turned into a fine young player, brilliant if we can keep him after this season. if we can keep him and the other players that are showing great potential then that will be fantastic.

Leaving for something better does not always guarantee success. I think the answer there is, hopefully, ICT is the place to be because he wants to be there. If we show our appreciation, instead of making things look bad all the time, it would invite Brew to stay for a long period if we are doing well. Brew will be happy with success but he has also seen the opposite. If the team and supporters show they appreciate him, this will add to his success achieved with the club. The same goes for the players too. I think some of the comments put on the forum are by people who would never be happy. If we reached the top six, they would moan if we did make Europe. If we made Europe we would have to make the final and then win it. There is always something better to want somewhere. Why not show some appreciation for what we do have and help nurture it forward. i agree with you, i guess some folk just love a moan. i think if we were to get into the top six and possibly a final or semi of a domestic cup then great...if we were to achieve this and people were still moaning then they need to lighten up.

Esson has to start in place of Fraser who is becoming a liability. If he was an outfield player he would have been dropped long ago .That apart i would go with the same team that beat Killie . i see your point with Fraser, it's ashame coz he does have the talent there but seems to show his inexperience with his decision making...that will come though. well i think blackie has been our best player but blackie isn't one for the forward pass so i have to disagree, his game is switching and short fast inter-linking passes.

haha yeah i think that's fair coz it certainly was a riffle of a ping that hit the little man. great header from black from a great ball in from vigurs. i was same debating whether to give it to black or vigurs but vigurs passing and touch was top notch, apart from those two fresh air clearences he had near the end...oops vigurs balck imirie

keep the same team as yesterday, maybe put cowie in for McBain so possibly one change. Fraser Tokely McGuire Munro Hastings Vigurs Black Duncan Cowie Imirie Barrowman

thought the team played really well after a shacky first 20min. must improve on that as better team may finish the game off with a couple of goals. anyway lots of good things to say, thought the team played as a team today and kept their structure very well. midfiled were superb, blackie and vigurs different class, vigurs vision to pass a through ball is exactly what the team needs, so must get vigs 90min match fit. imirie was brilliant as well, worked very hard plus gave a quality performance which has been missing lately but not yesterday. barrowman was ok i think he still has a long way to go, he does well holding up the ball but not very good distribution and needs to hit more shots on goal. so better from him but still not spl level as yet. overall team played well so well done to them and management. Fraser - 5/10 Tokely - 6/10 Hasting - 6/10 Munro - 6/10 McGuire - 7/10 McBain - 5/10 Vigurs - 7/10 Black - 7/10 Duncan - 6/10 Imirie - 7/10 Barrowman - 5/10

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hmmm i don't think so.....finding positions for players just to keep them in the team is crazy. if tokely is to play its in defence. i've heard of strikers becoming defenders because they are getting on a bit but not the other way round.

i can see why brew has been taking black off and thats purely so he doesn't run himself into the ground. i agree black has been our best player this year so far, but if we want that to continue we cant play black the way blackie plays every minute of every game otherwise the guy is gonna last half a season at best. you watch black play and you'll notice how much ground he covers and how hard he works...it's just not possible for someone to keep that up for 90 mins in every game...hence brew subbing him. thats the reason he gets subbed.

one thing that does annoy me about brew is his persistance in changing the system and different players almost every week. one thing that is paramount to any team is stability and consistency.

Unfortunately bush this seems to be a frequent occurrance on this forum. I think peoples frustrations get the better of them and end up pointing the finger to quickly without thinking about what they're writting...i'll do it aswel most likely, just human i guess. although i must agree with the point you made, and i quote, "You can't arbitarily blame Brewster solely as the cause of all poor performances and then credit the players for all good performances." a team does not win or lose without one anothers input.

looking forward to it, i'll be there. i think it's a good draw, the boys will have confidence from winning there already.

Mine is Craig Brewster with Barry Wilson as No 2 what about John Collins, is he doing anything ??? i think Barry would make a good assisstant...he has a great football brain. .

I think Bush has posted some very good posts in this topic as it is apparent that no matter what brewster does, some fans want him out regardless. A pont that has been missed, may have been raised in other threads, is that this season has seen the biggest change/turnover in our squad since Pele took over when we were in the third division. This is undoubtedly having an impact as these players get to know each other. At long last however, we are also starting to produce youngsters capable of playing in the SPL which is the future for us. When playing young players, you will get inconsistent performances and allowances have to be made for this although not by some on this forum it appears. Finally, remember football is a results business. If we played wonderful attacking football but lost every game or got relegated, then I would not be happy. The priority has to be results with hopefully the good football follwoing on after that. For those who say they would rather watch entertaining football and never mind the results, time to come into the real world. spot on.

In terms of the SPL, Rankin is clustered in the large group of players all very capable on their day, but all very similar in ability. He was a good player in our squad, but as has been shown at Hibs, he is an average player. i would have to agree that Rankin is average, he isn't a bad player but not great either. we have better players than Ranks still here at the club in Black and Cowie and after a few more games and experience Vigurs. Rankin is average.

after last nights game Cowie has to be dropped, obviously with baby been born his head is going to be elsewhere and that tells on the pitch. team for sat. Fraser Tokely Duf Munro Hastings Imirie Black Vigurs McBain Rooney Wood

was at the game last night, first half we were pretty poor, morton in fact looked the better team. second half started off the same until brew made a change and Vigurs came on...Vigurs's class no doubt changed the game in caley's favour, between Vigurs and Imirie was the reason we managed to win that game. well done to them both, as for the rest of the team only Blackie, Rooney and Wood get pass marks. Cowie unfortunately is a shodow of himself last season. no point mentioning any other players as they were pretty poor. going to need to raise our game a whole lot more if we want success in any campaign we're involved in. Imirie MOM Vigurs in a class of his own when he came on.

i think Esson gets the cup games doesn't he?

i just say that coz reliable source said he was very tired due to working his balls off on sat and reason for been subbed.

This is what i think it might be: Esson Proctor Duff Munro Hastings Cowie Duncan/Black Vigurs McBain Rooney Wood Black to be rested possibly for the weekend? 2-0 caley. Wood, Cowie

yes that would prob be my choice too.

Imrie does a lot of tracking back, tackling and has upper-body strength - all attributes that Zander lacks at the moment. This is a shame, because Zander can definitely beat a man and put a decent cross into the box, areas where Dougie is inconsistent at best. I suppose it comes down to Brewster's preference for graft over craft. Sometimes i can see his point, but now it's gone too far. With Don Cowie out of sorts, we don't seem to have a single creative midfielder or wide man. Has it really reached the stage where we don't have a player who can provide better set-piece deliveries than Dougie Imrie? Vigurs?