Kirishima

Yeah, everybody knew this day would come, but nobody stopped it. If the shoe was on the other foot, if ICT were bought by some Flash Harry and suddenly we were getting internationalists, paying 2k a week to players, and borrowing heavily, what could be done? How culpable are Hearts fans? The SFA, The SPL, etc.

I blame the high schools. They have failed to embrace any real sporting competitiveness. And teachers, who years before would give up their free time, and drive/coach a team, be it footie, volleyball, whatever, are long gone. That's where the battle is won or lost. cotland must be one of the worst for organized high school sport, certainly in the highlands. Know any good football tournaments between schools?

This is long overdue, and it seems that the shirts are finally trying to do something right. i wonder whether there may be clubs who turn down the chance of promotion. Lets imagine Wick were in Div 3 along with Stanraer, Berwick, Annan. AA Route Map says 7 hours 41 mins / 355 miles one way for Stranraer. imagine the amount of Fish & Chips (Sure Wick has an airport, but the departure times, costs, etc. mean it's surely redundant). Seriously though, would there be a way to have Wick (3rd last season) in the mix? A potential 16 hour round trip, exc. pit stops! and the cost!

Absolutely, TB is a manager who builds his own teams, he's better with a blank slate. I don't think he has the patience to 'win over' existing players, and prob Vigurs was in tht bracket. good move and will be interesting to see how it goes.

Indeed CaleyD, that is the biggest worry. Young uns, who may see it is a bit of a larf, could end up with dire consequences for something that, until quite recently, and that existed for many years without issue, is now an offence. The mind boggles.

Agreed, I think the whole PC thing is out of control, we have basically become, or told to become, super sensitive, and it knows no bounds. Again, I reiterate that what is unacceptable, is unacceptable. And that doesn't apply to ICT fans. But in the race to stamp out sectarianism and racism, which I think all agree is not ok, it will go beyond what is called for. It is not simply about ICT, or football, but about bureaucrats throwing the baby out with the bath water. is there a defence? as IHE said, who will stand up to a test case where what we may perceive is banter, as I think we have all either been on the receiving end or the dishing out end, will end up as something far more serious. I fear what IHE has alluded to, will be part of it. The age of rival banter is over.

And this is the issue. Who decides? I have had some absolutely outrageous discriminatory things said to me using the usual stereotypes of Scots/Highlanders ...but by friends. It's banter and I enjoy the humour. If a stranger says it with malicious intent, I can have them charged. So what will happen? Will one eejit on either side of the bridge get all Daily Mail and report stuff. Will smartphones capture fans and they end up in the Castle? Will people be charged? CaleyD, I agree totally, but often the law is an ass... My biggest fear is that someone ends up with a record over this. To be clear, we are talking about the age-old banter between rivals, not racist bigotry or sectarianism which isn't an issue at ICT or RC, and is a completely different thread entirely.

Discriminatory: prejudicial and/or distinguishing treatment of an individual based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or category. This is just one interpretation. But yes, I feel both ICT and RC alike will see a change in both clubs' tolerance.

Under UEFA law, a first offence for discrimination by fans would be partial closure of the stadium where fans had been found to been discriminatory. A second offence would be full closure and a 50,000€ fine. Points deductions would also be a possible sanction. It seems the SFA will fall into line and have cited discriminatory, racist, or sectarian behaviour from fans. Regan was quoted as saying, "Essentially, the resolution is about asking the members: 'what do you want for the future atmosphere inside our grounds?'" How would this affect clubs like ICT? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22844614

I have it on good authority that Marsella was also checking out Strutt & Parker and Munro & Noble. They'll be key players for ICT this season I feel.

Starchief, I get what you're saying, it was like when I first heard Terry Butcher after years of listening to Brewster. But if you compare Terry and Kenny, on the one hand you have a very upbeat, jovial, well mannered, passionate, original orator and then you have Kenny, a bitter, arrogant, deluded, egotistical liar. Standing out from the crowd is one thing, being a complete tool is another thing entirely. You aren't wrong about his record, he won silverware, and did try to keep a settled, solid squad. And therein lies the rub. He's been given the elbow because of his behavior. PR is important to a club, goodness only knows what he was coming out with in front of sponsors and investors...

It's a good question, what is the average wage for young players in the premier? Asides from the real starlets, what would one expect? I'd say it must be in the 1k a week region

Just saw it. No more arduous expeditions into the unexplored far-flung wilds of Inverness and Dingwall then.

His latest ban for stating Celtic are the puppet masters has not gone down well at Killie. I have no issue with his interviews about matches per se, but the man lied to try to cost some people their jobs. Made for the Daily Record. He is the Jim Traynor of managers. The majority of comments on the BBC are from Gers fans who have seen him as a prophet. I think he will be off to Ibrox in some capacity. Bu for me, this was the biscuit...(sorry no tidy text linky) http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/kilmarnock-boss-kenny-shiels-raging-1129786

Strachan is entertaining, Holloway is entertaining, but Shiels - the man has an ego the size of Derek Adam's chip, and blinkers that would do a mammoth. He lost me when he started moaning about travelling to Inverness. Good riddance I say.

Looks like Kennie Shiels is offski. Kilmarnock are "reviewing" his position, i.e he's for the chop. In my opinion he's been a blight on the Scottish game, and an embarrassment to Killie. Unfortunately though, that means Killie will be on the up...

According to the BBC it has ensured pot 4. The future with Matthew Kennedy, Islam Feruz, Jack Harper, Alex Davey, along with mainstays like Snodgrass, Morrison, McArthur, new manager, ....maybe this is the beginning of the end of our malaise?

Three! I believe Rogic at Celtic was found on the Australian version, or a similar programme. You are correct! the TV show was called The Chance, I have since learned. Any future show should just say, 'you will end up in the SPL, one way or another'

Ireland had a similar program, last year, and the winner got a place at Celtic's youth academy, Gareth McDonagh. seemingly STV had a similar show, with a place at Ross County for the winner, but no one passed the preliminary rigorous banjo boot camp, tobacco long spit, or parallel parking of a 1982 Vantage Phantom caravan in Aldi. In all seriousness, that's two players in the SPL from those shows. I think he will do well, I watched the show, hardest trials and a lot of pressure, he won't lack nerves.

Either he failed a medical or he was not the kind of persona the manager wanted. Did he cup his ear when they told him to get on his bike?

Not overly impressed with this. If Doran can stay, and I'm sure he had offers too, then so could OTJ. A new challenge ? Hibs?

Our players usually go to the championship, then the premier, win the FA cup, etc. Their players go to league one strugglers. But fair play to him, start at the bottom and all. Must be a humble man.

This is along the lines of managers being cited for swearing. Former player enjoys winding up rival fans of ex-club in media before match. Said player cups ear after another players goal and runs past away fans. Said player's friend expects said fans to chuckle and finger wag a la Last of the Summer Wine. It's a forum, not the bill of rights. It's football, not mahjong. It's 99% banter, and that's all. The other 1% is indicative of nowt, as is with world in general. Think he's off anyway, and I have heard/ seen enough in the last week to see why T B got rid.

Actually, one of the more attractive jobs going. If you can keep them up and play a bit of the beautiful game, the jobs a good un. Gus Poyet would be a good shout. I'd fall asleep in the changing room if either Neville was in that job, they are so, very, dull.

Who is "scampi"?