Everything posted by DoofersDad
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RiG - Lets All Laugh Now
Just hold on. Dundee could still win the league and then you'll have to eat a second helping. I will wait till the fat lady sings before devouring my slice of humble pie.
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Music for 1st May
"Up where we belong" - Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes
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What positions do we need to look at now?
Back in November hardly anyone believed we could bounce up and yet, barring a miracle, it has been achieved with 2 games to spare. That is an absolutely fantasitc achievement from the players. I appreciate the management team will need to look quickly in deciding who to offer contracts to in order to be able to secure as strong a squad as possible for next season, but can we as fans just leave it for a while? Lets celebrate the success and say "well done" to the team rather than give them a message which basically says "job done, now f*** off - we want someone better than you"
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Player Of The Year Poll
Foran Rooney McBain I thought after a bit of a nervey first half everyone did well with lots of contenders for my one point. Eric set up Forans goal beautifully and generally played well. Good to see him getting a good few votes.
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Tomorrow
Tomorrow's Sunday. Let's hope the results go our way today!
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So which result is bigger?
I think Pele is saying County's win is the biggest only in the sense that it has got them further in the competition. Nobody can argue with that. Whilst giving generous praise for their performance, I don't get the sense that he thinks it was a better performance or bigger shock than ours in 2000. I agree with Bauhaus that the 1-0 in Inverness was the best avievement. That Celtic team was by far the best of the 3 Celtic sides and they came to Inverness keen to avenge the earlier humiliation. Whilst it didn't have the novelty shock impact of the 1-3, it was an absolutely brilliant performance. So really, all 3 matches are each the biggest result in their different ways.
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Falling Standards?
You make a fair put and mention some great players there. But another relevant point is that the English top flight is now dominated by the best players from around the world. That was not the case in the 70s and 80s and therefore the best Scottish players were able to compete for places in the top English teams. The likes of Dalgleish and Bremner would have held their own against anybody but many of the others you mention would have struggled in today's Premier Division.
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1st Div P.O.Y.
He won the award for best penalty kick in the first round of the Alba cup.
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County v Celtic Joke line
- Getting lost in the maths
It appears from your duplication of the post that the plan is already well in hand. Good man.- Getting lost in the maths
dundee lose, we win, = title. county out of it as long as we win and barring goal difference miracle. anyone care to do a flow chart? No flow charts at this time of night. If we and county win on saturday we will have 67 points. If county win their remaining 6 games including the one on saturday they will have 67 points. For the sake of argument lets say we beat the pars by a single goal and then lose to Ayr by 2 and then, heaven forbid, get humped by dundee with a 3 goal deficit. The net result of that is that our goal difference goes down to +26. County's GD is currently +5 so they would need to get up to +27 to beat us. That is a total of plus 22 in 6 games. 6 games where the average margain of victory is 3.5 goals is highly unlikely but possible. Therefore if dundee lose on Saturday but County and Caley both win, the title will still not be ours. However, I think it would be certain enough to be an excuse to open some bubbly and then one can open some more when it becomes mathematically certain.- Getting lost in the maths
At this stage of the season last year it looked as though staying up was a formality. Buthcher needs to forget about the goal difference and just make sure we win our next two games. Remember that if Dundee or County catch us it will be because we are losing matches and as a result our goal difference will get worse. It is very unlikely our goal difference will be bettered but lets not risk it. I see no reason why the attitude will not be right on Saturday and I expect us to win by at least 2 goals. A win against the Pars will secure the title if Dundee lose and County don't win. A win against both the Pars and Ayr clinches it whatever anybody else does.- Derek Adams
He's a promising manager but yet to prove himself. The team has had some excellent results this season - not only did they comprehensively beat Celtic but they outplayed Hibs over 2 matches and beat Hamilton earlier in the season. Even more noteworthy, they outplayed us in the first 2 derbies of the season. However, you don't achieve that without having an excellent squad of players and cynics just might suggest that their overall league form suggests Adams is not getting the best out of his players on a week by week basis. The club is financially sound, has all its players signed up for next season and will have a further cash injection from their cup success which will allow them to further strengthen the squad. It's all set up for them to do very well in the league next year and I think we will be in a better position to judge him after that. Personally I think he would be mad to go.- Cup or the League?
Why only twice?- Cup or the League?
For a team that has never won it before it just has to be the cup. Just think of some of the young County supporters 60 years on. In the future County may get into the top flight league from time to time but they will never win it. They might have some great matches, great victories and they might win the cup again, but I'll tell you this, if they win the cup this year, those youngsters will still be talking about the cup victory of 2010 as the greatest day in the club's history and as their best memory. I'm really quite envious of County fans at the moment but try to put a brave face on it by asking them if they know how to get to Alloa because that will be where they will be playing next season.- So which result is bigger?
I think they rank pretty even. Ours was the bigger shock as such results were much rarer back then and we also scored 3 goals at their home ground. But County are a smaller club and have reached a final. Remember that Celtic are all but out of the title race and this was their only chance of silverware this season so Celtic should have been really motivated today as opposed to 10 years ago when the game would have been seen as a routine match on their way to the business end of the competition. County winning the Cup and us getting promotion to the SPL - what an advert for football in the Highlands that would be!- How long will their dream last?
I was thinking this myself. Just how bad is it with Celtic running away (pretty much) with 2nd place. I know there's been an odd challenge from DU and Hibs but Celtic still have got it to lose. Three of the top 5 in the SPL have gone out of the Scottish cup to !st division opposition and unless Dundee United win the cup, it will be 4 out of 5. In addition, Raith knocked Aberdeen out. Next season should be a doddle for us!- How long will their dream last?
Well done to County. It is clear that the scoreline was no more than they deserved and just as we did 10 years ago, they played Celtic off the park. And let's be honest, theirs is an even bigger achievement than ours because they are a smaller club and they have reached the final. In doing that they have achieved something we never have. But the interesting thing for me is how poor the premier division is this season. Clearly Celtic were there for the taking and are probably the worst Celtic team in living memory but in the 2 cup competitions the first division teams have shown that there is very little to choose between the SPL and the SFL in standard. Whilst it's a great day for the romance of the cup and for Highland football, sadly it is also a sad reflection on the quality of Scottish football at the highest level. They might find Raith a tougher proposition in the final- The SunSport Golden Boot
Putting 3 up the Queens. I think you might be thinking of Brewster! :023: :cry03: :cry03:- Team for Morton
Pumped up? Were you at the game today? They quite clearly hadn't fully recovered from their midweek exertions, and your expecting another gung ho approach from them 3 days from now? As Tree said on another thread, they hardly have time to recover from minor knocks and niggly injuries, when cramming so many games into such a short period. I was looking for a pumped up performance from them today, but very soon realised (11 minutes) that wasn't going to happen. They did of course grind out another incredible result, but (like me) they are soon going to have problems trying to keep it up. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get to the match today but I understand what you are saying. A reaction to the Tuesday result was always on the cards, particularly in a match which the players might have seen as the easiest of the remaining fixtures. We are lucky that despite what seems to have been a fairly poor performance, the Gods were with us today. However, having gotten out of jail today and taken another very important step towards the title there should now be no let up on focus. Of course, if players are injured they may need to miss games to recover, but if they are not, I don't see us having the depth in strength to rest players. There is a bit of flexibility around which 2 play out of Proctor, Bulvitis, Stratford, Sanchez and Odiambo but other than that the team picks itself and looks weaker when any of them are not playing. It's only a 36 match season and there's only one more midweek match to go. If the players can't cope with that when they are on the verge of a historic return to the SPL then they shouldn't be wearing the shirt at all IMHO.- Team for Morton
This is a really important match for us. Another win keeps the squeeze on the others but it will not be easy. Morton are playing well and are second to ICT in the recent form league. They are also highly motivated as they are playing to avoid facing the play offs. But they must also be feeling the pressure as other teams at the bottom are also picking up points which means they need to keep their form up. Their next three matches are against us, then County and then Dundee so whilst they will be very up for the match, they will be feeling the pressure too. Sitting back will only give them confidence. We have scored the most goals in this league by some way and all of our strikers are scoring. Morton have conceded the most in the division and we should aim to exploit those facts. My view is we need an attacking approach and to go at them right from the start. Even if the team was not at its best today, the late winner will have been a huge boost to the confidence and they simply need to go out and do what they do best. Neither County nor Dundee will find their visits to Morton easy and we need to get a psychological advantage by turning them over first. If we can then beat Queens and Dundee and County drop points, we could find ourselves cliniching the title at home against Dunfermline on the 17th. How good would that be! TB will be well aware of how we clinched relegation from the jaws of survival last season and will not be wanting it to go to the wire. Now is not the time to rest players. Some players may be tired but they should still be motivated enough to give of their best. I expect a very pumped up, full strength team to take the pitch at Morton. I certainly don't expect Morton to roll over but I do expect us to win by at least 2 clear goals to send a clear signal to those desparately trying to keep pace with us.- BBC Website
According to the BBC Website match stats for tonight's SPL match Hibs had 2 shots on target and Dundee united just 3. Interesting when the score was 2 - 4.- Munro and Tokely
Did anyone else notice an incident late in the 1st half not long after we had gone 3 - 0 up when Munro and Tokely were having a right go at each other from a distance of a few yards? With all the excellent singing from section G I couldn't hear anything that was being said but it seemed as though Munro was doing what captains are supposed to do and Tokely didn't like it and was giving a lot of lip back. This went on for a few exchanges until Ryan Esson took a few steps out of his goal and told the 2 of them to cool it. Is this a symptom of a potentially brittle partnership at the back or was this just a reflection of how fired up everybody was in the first half? I got the impression that perhaps at 3 - 0 up Tokely fancied surging forward to get in the action but was told in no uncertain terms that he needed to stay back. Whatever it was, it was not a very healthy exchange between 2 experienced players whose performance and attitude will probably be more important than any other players' in the remaining games. For us not to blow it, we must stay solid and united at the back.- Who Do You Fear?
Exactly. These teams have a lot to play for and will take points off our challengers.- How Many Wins Would Win It?
If we win 3 and lose 3 then we will have 64 points. To beat us the other teams will need the following:- Dundee 14 points from 6 games Dunfermline 16 points from 5 games (mathematically impossible!) County 21 points from 9 games Queens 22 points from 9 games. Realistically those targets are tough and they would need to significantly improve current form to acheive that. I can't see any of them getting that many points because it is a competetive league. Only a catastrophic collapse can stop us now. - Getting lost in the maths
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