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Getting back to the OP's question, I would still support my team but I would not put a penny of my money into Ranger's coffers if I could help it. Of course, not going to Doncaster Ranger's matches could potentially hurt ICT through lost revenue but that is easily remedied for those of us who are not season ticket holders simply by going to another match I otherwise might not have attended. If my club voted to keep Rangers in the league I would be unhappy with that and would probably write to the club to express my anger at their decision - but I would not stop supporting the club. The club is a lot more than the Board.

Scotty, there are 2 huge differences here. Firstly, none of the clubs you mention who went into administration whilst in the SPL were reformed as a Newco. The only way a club should get into the SPL is by winning the SFL. If an existing club goes out of business and a vacancy arises it should be filled either by the team which finished 2nd in the SFL or by reinstating the team which was relegated. There is no reason why a Newco should be admitted - after all, had the failed club been responsible in managing it's affairs, paid it's debts and taxes and signed playing staff appropriate to the resource legitimately available, there is no guarantee that they would not have been relegated in any case. Why should they receive preferential treatment for acting irresponsibly rather than responsibly? The second point is that even if some unpleasant wheeling and dealing goes on which leaves creditors millions of pounds out of pocket but allows the original club to come out of administration, there is no meaningful comparisson with other clubs who have been in administration. We should not be saying that clubs all receive a standard 10 point deduction for going into administration. It is like saying that a wee child who pockets a pack of sweeties from Tesco should be punished the same as the great train robbers - "well, theft is theft so treat them all the same". The scale of Rangers mismanagement is of a different order of magnitude and the punishment should therefore also be of a different order of magnitude. Throwing them out of the SPL would be perfectly reasonable because it would be giving a message that this level of financial mismanagement is not acceptable. Remember, paying for players they could not afford cheated the legitimate hopes and honest endeavours of other clubs to succeed and the SPL should see Rangers actions as hostile to fellow members and expel them. It would then be up to the SFL (or the English leagues) to consider whether or not they wished to allow them into their system. If the SPL does not have the moral guts to expel Rangers then at least the points penalty needs to be in proportion to the level of "crime". 3 points a game might be reasonable so that they started on minus 114. At least that would give them a fighting chance and they could still pip County on goal difference on the last day of the season.

I think some folk need to be a bit more realistic about who the club can afford. There are some fanciful suggestions on here. By the way, I hear Drogba is out of contract and is leaving Chelsea.

It's all well and good saying there is no money for a trip away to England or abroad but the point is that the pre-season games have got to prepare us for tough SPL games right at the start of the season. A good start is important to get points on the board because failure to get those early points might be the difference between relegation and survival, or top six or not. Matches against Wick and Huntly will prove very little, We need to assess how new members of the squad can perform against quality opposition so that the correct line up, properly prepared is in place for the first game of the season. Shelling out to pit ourselves against some quality English opposition might prove to be a very sound investment.

The latest from the SPL's disgrace of a Chief Executive is in a BBC report here http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18148989. The story suggests Rangers could start next season as a new company in the Scottish Premier League without incurring any sanctions - such as a points deduction or fine. It goes on to say that fans of other clubs have been demanding tough sanctions but that SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster said: "Newcos have been allowed within UK football for many years." The man is a complete discgrace. After the way Rangers have cheated their way to success in recent years the man seems perfectly happy for there to be a newco admitted straight back into the SPL, without any sanctions, to start raking in the profit whilst all the creditors (including the taxpayer) who have been cheated out of millions get nothing. This simply rewards immoral financial practices which if they are not actually illegal, certainly should be. Doncaster shames Scottish football and should resign with immediate effect. The article refers to the meeting next week when a vote will take place to decide what should happen to clubs who come out of administration in this way as "a new company". I trust that those voting on behalf of our club are clear about how the fans - the lifeblood of this club expect them to vote.

Cutting it off might not have been necessary if you'ld taken antibiotics.

Terry may not have played but that must have been Robben's best ever performance for Chelsea.

Oddquine, size doesn't matter - it's what you do with it that counts. The problem with MacKay is not his height it's the fact that the tactic has been to play the high ball to him. When he is up against 6' 2" defenders the poor lad doesn't have a chance. If we were to keep it on the deck a lot more I am sure he would be more effective. Butcher has been up against Maradonna and will know from personal experience that small players can cause a problem or two when the ball is on the deck. Small players can still excell in the modern game Lionel Messi is hardly a giant and in the Scottish Cup Final yesterday Ian Black was arguably MOTM (Man of the match - in case David Cameron is reading this)

Unless all of those who are currently out of contract and are not already away sign new contracts, Butcher is going to need more than just a couple more players signed up in the next few weeks.

We haven't got a reserve team. One game is in the afternoon and the other in the evening, Hampden is not too far grom Glasgow airport so the lads should have a couple of hours to recover on the plane.

If it's jiggling busts you're after, go watch Bobby Mann.

The younger players obviously learnt a lot from Proctor.

Gringo tops the NPL game that he runs and Scotty tops the SPL Prediction league that he runs! Seriously, well done guys and thanks for all the effort you put into these fun competitions.

I don't.

Sorry to see him go. He was never going to be a first choice but an excellent utility player who always gave 100%. Prevented us from getting our biggest drubbing ever when he replaced Meekings at half time against Rangers earlier in the year. I would like to think the manager has got some guarantees of other signatures before showing Proc the door but somehow I doubt it.

:rotflmao: Absolutely no sympathy whatsoever!

For Christ's sake Richie, all I said was "who do you think will be captain next season?"

Are you sure it's not really Notts C*unty now? And are you seriously expecting anyone to believe you are questioning your support of ICT because of the hard time some of the CTO members give you on this forum? Those who give you a hard time certainly will not question their loyalty to ICT just because other fans disagree with what they say from time to time? Change your loyalty to C*unty and you will of course confirm that those who have a go at you were right all along. Show a bit more support for ICT and you won't get roasted all the time. But back to your original post. Alex is right - it's just banter. It's a love hate relationship with County - you love them and we hate them.

End of term stuff. We had a lot of possession and passed it a lot but the Hibs players' priorities were not to get injured and so we were never put under any real pressure. Given the half hearted attitude of Hibs it was disappointing that there was not a bit more penetration in the final third. Plus points were:- We won We kept another clean sheet We scored a much needed goal from a Tansey free kick. I have said before that what we have lacked most this season is confidence. Hopefully that will help him because the lad has got the potential to do well. I hope he stays A good cameo from OTJ. He looks a class act. If he is with us next season and stays fit we will be a much better team. Ross Tokely. Another great no nonsense performance from the big man. MOTM for me by some margain. Nessie's half time dancing It was the last match of the season Negative points:- Whilst we had a lot of possession few players ever showed a good first touch despite being under little pressure Hayes, Golobart and Tuffey are all away No imagination in the final third Billy MacKay is not good enough. He works hard and has better touch than most but he is not good at finding the space and as a result defenders get too close and knock him of the ball. He rarely threatens.

Yes, there have some real plus points in the English league this year. A different team winning the league Chelski out of the top 4 Everton ahead of Liverpool Swansea thriving with their refreshing brand of football Villa staying up despite the best efforts of McLeish to acheive a unique relegation double Keeping the interest going to the last round of matches - and how!

He's maybe not as quick as he was but he reads the game better than he did. He was immense yesterday, controlling things at the back, distributing the ball well and when the ball needed hoofing he made sure it was properly hoofed. He's still got a couple of SPL seasons in him - which is one more than Grant Munro

Is there a connection between the fact that he is CTO player of the year and the fact that TB did not play him yesterday?

3 league goals says it all, and he finds himself relegated again. ICT went down in 2009 because we placed too much faith in a striker who was unproven at SPL level. Dunfermline were the greater fools because he was proven to be rubbish by the time they signed him. Let's hope County re-sign him to add more 'SPL experience' to their squad. 3 goals? That'll be the same as Billy MacKay and 1 more than Ritchie Foran then.

Great post. Sadly I will not be able to get to the game but I look forward to raising a glass in relief celebration later in the evening.

Bad times? Man Utd losing!