There is an article in todays Courier regarding some pre-season problems and also some info on new signings, see below

CALEY Thistle?s pre-season trip to England is under threat if a third fixture cannot be confirmed.

Inverness are set to face League One side Yeovil Town on Tuesday 12th July before facing relegated Bristol Rovers, now of League Two, two days later at Twerton Park in Bath.

If another game cannot be arranged, it is likely Inverness will not make the 550-mile trip to the south-west.

?If we don?t get a third game, we will probably just cancel the trip,? said Caley Thistle assistant manager Maurice Malpas yesterday.

?Hopefully we can get something confirmed. We will need to get that done in the next three or four days.?

The trip will be preceded by a visit to Almondvale Stadium to face Livingston on Saturday 9th July. The only other confirmed pre-season match is against Clach at Grant Street Park on Monday 27th June.

Meanwhile, Inverness manager Terry Butcher is set to unveil the first stage of his new look squad tomorrow.

He is expected to reveal at least one new signing and announce which players have agreed new contracts with the club.

It comes after he released 10 first team players earlier this month and held a 31-player trial game at Tulloch Caledonian Stadium just over two weeks ago.

?I am looking at releasing some news on Wednesday about players that have re-signed and players that are going to sign,? Butcher said yesterday.

Inverness are waiting for responses from top scorer Adam Rooney, midfielder Stuart Duff, defender Kenny Gillet and youngsters Shane Sutherland and Gavin Morrison, who have all been offered new contracts because their current deals expire this summer.

Caley Thistle have been monitoring former Hibs defender Kevin McCann, who was on loan at the club last season; released Rangers midfielder Andrew Shinnie, who played in the trialist game and is the older brother of Inverness full-back Graeme; as well as French forward Gregory Tade, who has been linked to several SPL clubs since leaving Raith Rovers.

* Caley Thistle goalkeeper Jonny Tuffey made his seventh appearance for Northern Ireland in a 2-0 defeat to Wales in the Carling Nations Cup on Friday night.

Nice to see the rebuilding process starting

Well with Fansey Tansey ( no slight intended) in midfield does that infer that Duff will not be back?

Anyway let's hope he turns out to be as good as touted and is not a duffer.

No pun intended, but was Duff not a much better player in midfield than as a back?

Be good,now..no duff gen please.

I remain, as always, at your service and the backward Elmer FFud.

Another article, this time from the Manchester Evening News about Tansey signing for us, some new quotes

linky

Not good

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11781_6987257,00.html

While that's not good news, all the comments from the player (and his agent going by that link) seem to suggest he's really keen to play for us.

Not good

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11781_6987257,00.html

If he waits his time, I believe that would be 1st July for England. Means he would miss a week or two of pre-season but still be here 3 weeks before the start of the season.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he's on holiday he could do a bit of sightseeing up here? Possibly even visit a local club to keep his fitness levels up?

Has he not signed a contract with us?

He's still under contract so can't, keep up.

Has he not signed a contract with us?

He has stated his intention to sign, that is all.

Clubs in England tend to give their players contracts that expire on 30th June and the window opens for them on July 1st so they still hold his registration. sounds like his club are still trying to drum up interest from within England to make him change his mind and sign for a club down there. If he did, they would be due some money. If he bides his time and signs for us, they get nothing.

He's still under contract so can't, keep up.

P & J, Courier and the club themselves seemed to imply that he had signed a pre-contract with us. Once a player enters the final 6 months of his contract he is free to sign a contract with whatever club he wants . However his agent is talking as if Tansey only has a verbal agreement with us so excuse me if im a bit confused. If he has signed a contract with us then I dont really see how the move can be in doubt, it's just a case of waiting for 1st July and Stockport dont really have any grounds to try and flog him to a team down South. But if he hasnt then local papers and the club confirming the signing of Tansey was wrong.

Has he not signed a contract with us?

He has stated his intention to sign, that is all.

Clubs in England tend to give their players contracts that expire on 30th June and the window opens for them on July 1st so they still hold his registration. sounds like his club are still trying to drum up interest from within England to make him change his mind and sign for a club down there. If he did, they would be due some money. If he bides his time and signs for us, they get nothing.

Thanks Scotty, that was the info i wanted.

Pre-contracts aren't legally binding though, are they?

Pre-contracts aren't legally binding though, are they?

Not unless the player cancels it himself.

Pre-contracts aren't legally binding though, are they?

Not unless the player cancels it himself.

Which in this case is unlikely so happy days. :biggrin:

P & J, Courier and the club themselves seemed to imply that he had signed a pre-contract with us. Once a player enters the final 6 months of his contract he is free to sign a contract with whatever club he wants . However his agent is talking as if Tansey only has a verbal agreement with us so excuse me if im a bit confused. If he has signed a contract with us then I dont really see how the move can be in doubt, it's just a case of waiting for 1st July and Stockport dont really have any grounds to try and flog him to a team down South. But if he hasnt then local papers and the club confirming the signing of Tansey was wrong.

The club have not indicated anything about him signing .... checked back on the official website and can only see 3 articles relating to signings so far ... 1 talks of "being patient", waiting until 9th June when signings can be made officially in Scotland (between clubs internally), the second talks of Tade signing (after 9th june and an internal Scottish transfer), and the third talks of Tokely signing on for a year. Nothing about Tansey actually signing.

The Courier have carried an article about his twitter comment and what I believe to be an erroneous comment about an Irish tour that is not happening. They followed that up by tagging on a comment in a later article mentioning Tade by saying he is the second to sign for the club - after Tansey - but again, no official confirmation of anything other than Tade and Tokely.

Havent checked P&J but unless there are some direct comments from Butcher/Malpas then the same applies.

P&J had him down as signed. My bad on the official site.

I've seen a rule somewhere (FIFA, UEFA, FA, SFA, SPL or something) that states no player can enter into a contract with another club whilst still in the employ (under contract) with another, so "Pre-Contracts" would more likely be defined (in law) as a "Letter/Statement of Intent". Legal enforcement would then depend on the content of that statement, and as it's unlikely to contain full details of the terms of the contract then it would be easy for a lawyer (from either party) to find an out if they felt the need. The "risk" to player/club in not following through would be damage to reputation and might make anyone a little less likely to deal with them in future.

I don't think there's much to worry about here, the player still wants to come, the club still want him to come and it seems that Stockport are just playing hardball in the hope they can get a fee....either from convincing the player to sign for someone down south or by forcing our hand to get him here earlier by us paying them something.

Give it a few days and Stockport might realise the only money they can get is a couple of weeks wages from releasing him now instead of at the end of the month.

P&J had him down as signed. My bad on the official site.

Skysports reported a 12 month contract.

Tansey deal

Inverness have also concluded their second signing of the summer after former Stockport midfielder Greg Tansey penned a 12-month deal.

"This is a very good league with a lot of other capable teams so I've made the right move," said Tansey.

"Once I spoke to Terry Butcher I knew there was no turning back. He was so positive about the future of this club.

"He's so enthusiastic and I'm sure he'll get the best out of me.

"I'm relishing playing at a big club like Inverness and can't wait to get started for real."

Sky link

You can say <insert media outlet here> reported it and choose from many who have, but the simple truth of the matter is that whilst TB may have spoken to him (as he is free to do) the actual contract cannot have been signed (until July 1st) and the club will not confirm it until it has been.

We can bitch and moan at the club being slow as much as we like, but in this instance - and the English tour - they are choosing not to officially announce anything until its actually official !!!!!

My point was really to highlight that the media are not to be 100% relied upon and that until it comes from the club it should be taken with a pinch of salt.

My point was really to highlight that the media are not to be 100% relied upon and that until it comes from the club it should be taken with a pinch of salt.

agreed.

If players are a bit indecisive about which SPL clubs to play for perhaps this should make things a little clearer. http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=home_Statistics

Didnt quite come through as I hoped but select form for last season.

Edited June 13, 201114 yr by 12th Man

The signings I am looking for are further extensions to the Butcher and Malpas contracts. They are contracted to the end of next season only. A clear commitment to the club from the management team makes it easier for players to show some level of commitment. When you look at how few of the team have contracts beyond the end of next season the future looks far from clear. The Board should ensure that any player or member of the management team they really want to keep should never be on a contract of less than a year.

The Board should ensure that any player or member of the management team they really want to keep should never be on a contract of less than a year.

I agree to an extent but I also believe the board should also take into account the adverse effect relegation would have on the club. Maybe a clause in contracts reducing wage bill in the event and/or an opt out to free the players and club from austerity.

The contract is a two way deal, the players or more importantly the players agent have some input in this. A lot of players only do 1 year contracts with clubs of our ilk, it offers them the chance to move on when the time comes, or stay should that option be offered to them.

We should be thankful that we get them signed at all on whatever contract. We are never going to be the big draw that some clubs are, we will always have to make the most of what we get and so far we seem to be doing ok on that.

I get cheesed off every time I see someone post that why did we not offer more than one/two year deals etc. It's a big world out there and life is not always that simple, live with it or jump ship.