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Here we go! A coupleof iffy performances and thoughts are turning to the past players. Whatever will we do without them ? Well we had them when they were at their best and there were moans and groans when we had them then. Even though they did give good service to the Club I can't say ICT reached dizzy heights in the SPL or won a lot of silverware. So let's keep them in the past and give the new lads a chance to show what they can do. We are already seeing a better class of football from them and I'm sure with a ferw testing games under their belts things will gell. I don't think they are going to let us down that badly that we should be thinking back to those who MIGHT have have brought us greater glory had they still been with us. Remember they are now past their best. Many of this seasons team are still maturing. Bring on the games!!!

I would take a team of Tokelys before one of Forans to be honest !

Remember this from not so long ago.... http://www.thesun.co....html?print=yes Give Tel a team of Tokelys Butcher admits that he has been blown away by Tokely’s commitment since he took over as boss in January. And he said: “I actually wish I had three Ross Tokelys in the team — one to play right back, one in central defence and another one to go up front. “Ross is a great club man and as honest as the day is long. He’s a great sort of professional, my type of player. “Along with the likes of Ryan Esson, Grant Munro and Russell Duncan he is part of the backbone of our team.

Hang on a minute... let's get this straight. Back in 1994 poor old Buenos Hadji, due to scruples regarding the loss of his Highland League team, "declines" to associate himself with a new club which then progressed to the SPL in a decade. Instead he decides to become a lifelong supporter of another club which now finds itself in the Third Division, from which the club he declined to back moved on as champions all of 15 years ago. Talk about a magnet for lost causes! I really hope he doesn't bet on the horses!! :lol:

Where the feck do we play him and what the feck do we do if he is absent ? I concede that it was a midweek pre-season friendly at Brechin but he got very close to being faultless last nite and looked like he had been playing as a libero in Spaghetti land fer years. Yet we missed his influence in midfield which led to a frustrated Andy Shinnie dropping back to pick up the ball as a "playmaker" type that Foran can also provide. Then we have Shane trying to be transformed in to a Richie clone and poor wee McKay struggling against two defenders bot at least a foot taller and two stone heavier than him without a partners who wins the ball in the air, acts as a holder of the ball and utilises McKay's pace and ensures that he isn't just chasing hoofs or speculative lobs - as a certain Richie Foran can provide. And there was nobody close enuff to Doran to give him a wake up slap on his napper. So we basically need four Richie Forans - who the feck WAS Ross Tokely

Do we not remember being "diddly"teams playing friendliest against big teams and getting results? Certainly Thistles 3 all draw with Celtic or 2 all draw with Rangers come to mind for me. Both teams had around 6 or 7 first team players who were also internationals. Our lot tonight were nowhere near that standard so no concerned about the results at all. Judgement can only be made against SPL teams.

Think I heard there's a closed doors game against Rangers on Saturday Brora Rangers

watch out Ryan

I'm sure I saw him use a nasty four letter word to discribe Catholics on Facebook which would indicate who his big team was. 18 years is actually quite a while. Thats long enough for him to have a child and have the child grow up, realise his dad is a sad pathetic and bitter old man and decide that they don't want anything to do with him like the rest of his family probably do.

ESSON :lol: Didn't do anything wrong. COOPER :lol: Started hobbling at 40 mins and got taken off a few minutes later. FORAN :lol: :lol: Man of the Match by miles. Class. MEEKINGS :lol: Pretty solid defending G.SHINNIE :lol: Up and down the park all evening. TUDOR-JONES. :lol: Obviously not fully recovered but tidy enough. DRAPER. :lol: We need a bigger contribution from that position but its early days. SUTHERLAND :lol: Not a winger! DORAN :lol: Couple of neat crosses. But didn't run at anyone til the 2nd half. SHINNIE,A. :lol: A few touches of class but still failed to get the better of part time defenders MACKAY :lol: Missed a sitter, and that's about it. Sub LAING: :lol: Our weakest player but out of position at right back.

Came back on, having slept on my post, and thought a bit more about it, to remove the amalgamation comment and some of the rest.....but was too late. Sorry! That'll teach me to go to bed just before the normal person is getting up. Not denying for a minute that businesses have to generate an income to support their activities, but I would argue that the vast majority of Scottish Football Clubs are not a business in the "shafting the punter to make a profit for shareholders" sense of the definition. Scottish Football Clubs (unless you have a Scottish Football paranoia, sectarian and TV fuelled but lucrative flame from which one or two of them can then arise like a phoenix from the still smouldering ashes and proceed to carry on from where they left off) make their money to play football, not play football to make money (think I may have said that before on here!). And everything else I post from here on (and, tbh, on this forum and all forums generally) is couched in old-fashioned/before Maggie Thatcher/before Friedman(Reaganomics) economics/before America-lite/ before "there is no society" etc opinion. Not going to apologise for that....the 21st century is an alien country to me. As an ex Bank employee, who started working when we actually did give a service, about forty years ago....and stopped when we were cold-selling loans and other debt as if they were sodding sales items and a not to be missed bargain, I think that proactive marketing solely with an eye to the bottom line and profit is the nearest thing on earth to corporate pimping. On a point of principle, I do not ever consider buying anything advertised for silly money on the TV, and am frankly extremely rude to people who cold-call me by phone....because I am more than capable of searching out what I want for myself and asking the right questions. ....and I know they are only doing their job.....the one the Marketing Managers delineate. As I read stuff on the internet, and see posts or media reports on people who have been conned to the extent of silly money by plausible con-persons, I am horrified by the lack of control by anybody......personally, I'd make it illegal to ask for anybody's phone number as a prerequisite for accessing information. I have no great problem with email contact...if I'm not interested, they are easily deleted, or re-directed into my Junk folder...I can live with direct mail contact, because I have a waste bin at the side of my chair...and am happy enough to have people stuffing leaflets into my letterbox because someone has maybe paid them to do that, or, as I did myself regularly in the past, because there is an election on the horizon...but in all those cases the option to actually give a toss is mine alone. I don't have to say sod off, with probably inappropriate swearie words, to the fifth person to try to sell me "computer virus protection" on the same day, despite being on the TPS. I don't have to answer the door with soaking hair, body wrapped in a towel, to tell the person trying to persuade me that they have the answer to every problem I didn't know I had in my life to (in polite terms), pleasure themselves. But, to an extent, that is where ICTFC may be falling down....communication (but what's new there!). Went onto the official club site tonight, had a read of what they offered.......conference facilities, wedding venue, private functions . It all sounds good, almost impressive...and really nice photies...but not even a very basic price for the very minimum package for any of it without contacting the Club and getting involved in hard sell mode. See, maybe I'm daft but if the most basic package is pitched at a level to, at the very minimum, provide a small profit, then the punter has some very small idea of how much their specific wish list would be likely to add to the total within their budget. The club manages to produce levels of Hospitality for games with prices anybody can consider....why can't they even produce a basic cost level for a small family wedding, say, to be added to, cost-wise, according to a punter's preferences and wishes? I never ever go into a shop which doesn't price what they have in the window, on the assumption that if they are feart to show their prices, I definitely can't afford them. Had a shufti at the Centenary Club link as well.....and would you believe it......not any idea of cost....even though it could be another option for those of us furth of Inverness to do their bit to add to funds. I am not about to phone the Club before 7pm when I get free calls for any reason whatsoever...and I am not about to email the club for costings to have to turn round and tell them I can't afford it. Ross County manages to tell the punter up front what it is going to cost to participate in their lottery....what problem does ICT have with doing the same? Anyhow, I then went onto google and checked out Scottish wedding venue sites....and, while admittedly I didn't check out more than the first page of them, the only one I found (at WeddingsFC.com) which mentioned ICT (though maybe my search criteria was not specific enough)....linked to this sodding forum not the ICTFC site! Well duh! Does anyone from ICT attend wedding fairs with a decent marketing set-up, out of interest? Seems to me that the time to consider paying silly money annually for a marketing guru is well after offering the current staff a wee bonus or some kind of award for engaging their brains and coming up with something that might encourage them, if they were average punters, to give a toss.

We have done reasonably well in pre seasons against part time opposition and a Covenrty side three weeks behind us in terms of preparation but I fear that our lack of experience and depth will be exposed in the heat of SPL battle.

Good way to help the club and not spend money is to try and use any sponsors that the club are associated with.i no these businesses love feed back from customers on why they chose there particular establishment.so next time your out for a meal go to one that has an advertising board at the stadium then let the manager no that is why u chose there restaurant.

A pretty smart ICT coloured tie if I do say so!!!

Don't worry, that close up is of me wearing it, so it actually has incredible slimming properties.