starchief

I used to be a regular Scotsman poster (until the Old Filth completely took over every thread they could) and these weren't regard as good players. The Hi-bees will be delighted to offload these. Ah, well, look on the bright side....err...

To be fair, after his first season, it looked as though he'd be worth that. Will it be Burke v Boyd in the play offs?

I was one of Elliot's biggest critics but seems as though he's done well at Livi. Definitely need more experience up front but if Barrowman goes then I'd be in favour of the move.

McAllister may have been on that money but now he's on nothing. I see no reason why he wouldn't accept a large drop in his previous salary. He's had two management jobs and done little spectacular (well, spectacularly good) in both. I suspect he knows he's got to drop down, rather than wait for a high-flying job. That said, I don't think he's done anything to inspire me.

I'd keep Black (unless we get offered a good deal) as he's crucial but, like most others it seems, Cowie could have done with a bit more of a challenge from Wilson or Sutherland. If he was staying, I'd allow him to play himself back in but I sincerely doubt he'll be here for long. Investing his transfer fee would be more beneficial.

And only one has any experience.

Pressley, Milne, Dargo and Dods Failing that, Byrne :thumb04:

Depends on who you believe. I've heard 3 to 4M. I would have thought closer to 6M would be a better figure. I've wondered if he could actually make a defensive midfielder role.

No-one but multiple clubs after him. Rumours suggest Newcastle - must've been impressed by the last central defender they bought.

Couldn't agree more. Get as much as we can then re-invest at least as much as that.

I think any fee we might get for Proctor would be nominal.

He could be a bit of a bomb scare at time but I thought he was a good player. Certainly could have saved Celtic a few millions on Loovens. Bougherra's my player of the season so far. I would have thought Rangers could have held on for a bit more for him. But whoever gets Chris Burke will get the bargain of the season. A bit of fitness and you're talking a 2-3 million pound player for 10x less the price.

I'd hope by experience we'd have someone who's going to last more than a season, i.e. a 25-30 year old (or thereabouts).

I agree with Kirishima. Tokely and Hastings get a real bashing on here but I think they're SPL quality (not getting any younger though). Duncan's a trier but shouldn't really be 'first name on the list'. Proctor should be tried in that position.

Absolute madness from Rangers. Letting a goal machine go to get someone in who runs around a bit more. Darcheville did that but was awful. Cousin had all the touches but still didn't score anything like Boyd does. If what Kris does is so easy, why doesn't anyone else do it?

Ill.

If that's true it's good news for him, not so good for us though as they'll probably wait til the end of the season and we'll lose him for nothing. Other way around surely? If there's a number of clubs interested, then surely one or two would like to nip in with a transfer fee?

I remember someone saying the same thing about John Major's wife - she didn't deserve it either. But that doesn't mean grievances shouldn't be aired. Should it happen to Bennets junior or Mrs Major? No. Will it? Yes. You can't be in a job that demands the public eye then say it's unfair if people supporting your wages say it's time to go. I think everyone at ICT, be it Grassa, Malky, Brew, the Sutherland twins and the tea lady (oops, sorry, that's Malky too) want ICT to be a success. The question is...have they done their job well enough to be exempt from criticism?

Depends on how much we get. If it's the 40k mark, no, best keep him. Over 100k, sell him and invest all that and more.

Proctor in the Daily Record saying he'd swap cup success for staying in the SPL. Um, what cup success is that??? Is this preparation for a loss to Partick - you can just hear 'naturally we're disappointed but it gives us a chance to focus on moving up the table without any distractions' Also, "it's never nice seeing the manager under a bit of pressure. He's been working tirelessly as ever to try to turn things round so it's not for the lack of effort that we find ourselves in this position." Totally agree. Not for lack of effort. Poor tactics and quality leaving but not being replaced. That's the problem. David Proctor speaks about the cup

Presumably Milne for the third? Surely then, it must mean Cowie and Black staying? If they leave, we have to invest at least every penny into a new midfield (as well as a centrla defender and striker).

Our wide men are usually on their wrong foot meaning the tactic is to go through the middle. Can't understand it myself, especially with only one up. And why did the players look so tired? Isn't fitness everything with Brew?

The supporters ought to be ashamed of themselves. Imagine them doing something as heinous as actually talking about the game.

I'm not too sure Pressley would be so anti-Brew. But given his desire to further his 'football education' (his words), I suspect he's looking to get more in to the coaching side. Can't see he's going to be overly educated in defensive duties at the age of 35 when he's dropping down from the likes of Rangers, Celtic and Hearts.

Certainly didn't work when Levein replaced Brew at Dundee Utd, Walter Smith replaced both PLG or Berti Vogts etc etc through the entire history of football.