davie

Who? Ha! I remember that. Horrible little so and so.

Tremendous. I hope that all other SPL clubs follow Pars lead of signing truly dreadful, utterly skill bereft, lazy donkeys to lead their attacks (Motherwell already have - step on up Michael Higdon) Happy days!

Give me a date, I'll cycle there for the game, you lot sponsor me, we donate the lot. Deal?

According to Maurice in the Courier, at this moment in time there is no Plymouth game and the trip depends on finding a 3rd opponent. If Plymouth can't be sorted, who else is down there? Exeter? Bournemouth? Anyone bought plane tickets yet?.........

Regardless of what happened, he remains one of the best players we ever had in terms of ability (if not workrate) Sad it had to come to all this.

Forget it Scotty, suspend the rules. We all deserve our close season to be brightened up by a Caley D/ Jnr. flame war. Jnr, you are waaaaaaaay ahead on points for the tummy rubbing one. ROFLMAO!

Good bloke. I hope he does well there.

Oh, all right I'll go then. +2 as usual.

Scotty's right here. It's not as if anythings hidden on the this forum and even us old guys are permitted to hold different pints of view - just because I don't agree with Caley D on this one doesn't mean that I dislike him. I might not get the chance to bring it up with him at a game because that's what I'm there to watch. I can, however discuss it here to my hearts content. As for everyone standing, er, no. What would happen is that we would be ejected en masse because we don't have sufficient numbers to act in the same manner as the OF. And even if we could, would we want to?

Basking in happy, happy glow. How that could have happened after Aberdeen amazes me. I genuinely feared for us last night, but the team were magnificent and proved that the future really is bright. Was only sad to see Rooney's goal being credited as an OG when in fact it was a pretty sublime flick that hit yon donkey on the way in. Great stuff.

I really wasn't going to get involved in this, as I am aware that opinions are polarised and anything that I say will not make a jot of difference (much like anything I said to the Stewards on Saturday) I am a wee bit surprised at Caley D's attitude on this one, it's a bit sactimonious and to be fair, I didn't see him at Aberdeen so his judgements may be based on the observations of others. There is no case for banning anyone, or for Senior Mods to be suggesting so.If the ejected are reported to ICT, and a reason given for their ejection from the ground by the stewards I would have to regard that as unreliable and unenforceable without the intervention of the local Polis. They certainly couldn't be regarded as impartial and empathic in their treatment of paying customers of whatever persuasion. As far as the OP goes, I do sympathise but there is a history of "industrial" language being used at matches and on Saturday it was widespread and frequent - I doubt if that will change at any time soon in response to any group of fans watching what was served up. It's what Roy Keane referred to as the "prawn sandwiches" syndrome. I agree that the F&C combination was wearing, it was used by a friend of ours in the first 10 minutes and he was asked to desist after it was noticed that he was offending people.He did. The lads language was no worse than that of the steward who ejected him later for standing when the row in front of him were also standing, and his behaviour infinitely better. As above, there is no case to be disgusted at the behaviour of our fans; they are just a cross section of a wider society and will neither conform nor probably recognise yours (or my) moral standards. They have their own, and these will be influenced by asking them to change at the time of offence, not sniping anonymously on an internet forum. The problem wasn't actually with the standing, it was with the fact that Stewards (especially the lady one) were engaging people in confrontational conversations about sitting/ standing/ being in the sunshine, being treated differently from Aberdeen fans, speaking back when they had (largely) paid more money to get in etc. It was very, very unneccessary and some of the things being said to "offenders" were so innacurate they really did need countering. The unfortunate corrollory of this is that when this stuff was countered (no matter how temperately) people were ejected. It's right that this is not the first time, and complaints about stewarding misbehaviour have been proven and upheld - a St. Mirren one was dismissed for his behaviour. It's also true that the same people crop up again and agin (IHE where are you? I need you to make me look good here) are they simply the ones who refuse to be herded according to the whims of stewards? I think that there were, by the end, more people in the Caley Golf Club than in the away stand. And for what? And they were'nt foul mouthed yobs of limited intelligence either - or exclusively young or inebriated as has been hinted at. Just a cross section of folk who went to a game and were unlucky enough to be randomly targetted, and whose only fault was to be more visible than those prepared to put up with the nonsense. It is indicative of the insularity of our support that they believe that this "problem" is unique to ICT. Please just take a trip through Pie&Bovril and you will find similar threads from every SPL club excepting the OF for obvious reasons. The suggestion from GMD that "most fans in the world" adhere to his guidance is disproved easily by watching any game on telly, from Old trafford to Munich to Barcelona. Sitting peacefully? I think not and neither was the entire Celtic support last night. I don't remember us having the same problem in Div 1, or having a bad reputation in Div 1. It really does appear to be a problem that has arisen all over Scotland this year in the SPL, and I think that only the Stewarding Companies and their controllers can answer why. I spent nearly ?120 on Saturday to have to take as much time looking over my shoulder as I did watching the match. I was worried about my kid (one of your "bouncy bouncy brigade") Is it worth going anymore to be herded as unquestioning cattle in a hostile environment and then labelled disgracefulby your fellow fans? I really don't know anymore.

Every manager of any team has a right to pick his own players and, on the flipside, get rid of those that need to go. It's the same at every club, and TB oviously rates Cox higher than Duncan and must feel that Gillet & Shinnie are adequate in Granty's position. it's just a harsh reality. You can't say that decisions are "too decisive" or can you attach arbitary timeframes to them. Duncan has been in and out of the team all this year, which indicates a decision making process and Grant has aso missed a few games. That both players have been at the club for as long as they have also indicates loyalty - but you can't simply keep people you don't need on the wagebill because of sentiment. Look at the progress that Sutherland, Ross & Shinnie have made and the whole argument about not progressing through the ranks becomes tosh. I realise that people feel emotionally raw on this issue right now, but some of the arguments put forward for keeping them have been a bit flawed. I personally look forward to an new model ICT next year.

It was 16.

Dont stop man, it's the mark of a real fan ( read: nutcase) that you ignore all of the down and remember all of the good stuff. That being the case, my last match was at Ayr, at about this time last year. It's like having boils - persevere. It'll get better.

What a godawful game. What a godawful place. The end of season tedium fest that was anticipated on Monday arrived today. I'll post the match report later if I can muster up the enthusiasm.

pre-match rendezvous?

I'm happy to abuse him on whatever terms on your behalf RiG. He is a walloper of the first degree. Me n'boy, nae bike, just train.

Tour de Perth. I'm gonnae get a tee shirt with that on it.

never saw that one coming, especially after cycling down. I'd forgotten nhow long the old road was. Match report after sleeps.

Im going. I've decided that this is the game I'll cycle to, the weather's no bad and I need a big day oot on the bike. What better way to do it? It's just a bity of fun, but if anyone wants to donate afterwards (that'll be you, Richard) go here: https://www.chssi.org.uk/donate/ as a wee touch of good will for John Allison. I'll update on the match report, but if you see me tomorrow give me a blast on the horn. Cheers!

Should have been 3 up by half time, with better finishing. However, we had about 3 equally important clearances off the line, and Esson had a couple of cracking stops. Rosscoe's red meant that a point was, in the end, a good reward. Crawford Allan really fecked it as a game for me, he was inept to the point of being laughable. How he missed the blatant hand ball from Hertz in the 2nd half is beyond me, and what he was doing at their goal was the same: he alowed the throw to be taken yards upfield from where it should have been, blew his whistle and then allowed the Jambos to score. Our defence had stopped, in the meantime, making the (unjustified) assumption that the idiot had made a decision. Never mind his completely inconsistent application of what constituted a foul, there appeared to be a ten minute spell in the 2nd half where he had lost it completely. It's this kind of display that really does give refs a bad name, because it was actually not a bad game but completely overshadowed by that plank of an official.

Would there be "dancing in the streets of Raith?" I don't know if I can get past the memories of the lovely pies at east End park. Dunfermline it is then.

That'll be der knowledge from now on then.

I think it's meteorological symbology, with a philosophical explanation of the symbolism inherent in that great work "the lion king" which explains why 'tic fans don't come from Glasgow in the same way that gorillas don't live in foressts and zebra's don't graze on the savannah. At least I think that's what it is.

In case anyone is halfwitted enough to forget, our colours are blue, white, black & red at least one of which doesn't appear in any union jack I've seen. it may appear in a more juvenile version, don't know but give me saltires any day. Good game, not a "2-0 bad feeling" about this one. Thought that ICT gave as much as they could, but that back 4 is always going to be vulnerable as the makeshift full backs are always out of position (as opposed to just being rank rotten) Duff is a midfielder and has to be judged as such. Duncan was immense, he must have been hoarse after the roasting he gave the ref on innumerable occasions. Nick Ross was impressive and Foran was equal to them. I felt a bit for Hayes, his lack of games showed and saturday might be a better platform for him. Onwards and (hopefully) upwards.