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It sounds too much like Victoria Park.

Bajram Fetai much?... Fetai didn't even get a sniff at the Rangers first team squad unlike Hutton and Little. I completely agree with Starchief here.

A little bit more notice would have pleased me, This is a brilliant idea and i always want to see the legends play, i'm just a bit gutted i can't make it.

A bit of an own goal by ICT hosting this match on Friday night as its a kick in the teeth to Clachnacuddin who are playing Turriff Utd at the very same time We all know Clachs situation regarding money and there struggle to get punters through the turnstiles therefore this fixture should have been moved to a more suitable date They may well be legends but I won't be there as I will be going to Grant Street dougal Not bothered its clashing with Clach at all as i don't support them but i'm a bit unhappy i didn't know about this sooner. Was this in the pipeline for a while and i just didn't hear about it? Giving me 3 days to organise this just isn't enough time so thats a shame.

Brilliant! Lets hope we can keep it up. We sound really promising so far.

Both good news for us in the long run.

Heard Tansey was only out for a week with a knee injury though.

Couple changes from the Ayr game. Not confident at all that team is going to win anything this season but its what we have to work with for now so lets hope we can get something from the game.

1st, 2nd and 3rd division clubs + 2 HL? Incidently Harry has nothing to do with this cup. It comes gold plated not battered. I'm glad someone cleared that up....

Ok so of all seasons in the SPL this is how our first 5 matches have went. 2004-2005 - with 3 points. P5 W1 D0 L4 Beat Ross County in League Cup Finished 8th 2005-2006 - with 8 Points P5 W2 D2 L1 Beat Alloa in the League Cup Finished 7th 2006-2007 - with 3 points P5 W0 D3 L2 Beat Dumbarton in the League Cup Finished 8th 2007-2008 - with 0 points P5 W0 D0 L5 Beat Arbroath in the League Cup Finished 9th 2008-2009 - with 7 points P5 W2 D1 L2 Beat Arbroath in the League Cup Finished 12th and relegated 2010-2011 - with 4 points P5 W1 D1 L3 Beat Queens Park and Peterhead in the League Cup Finished 7th THIS SEASON 2011-2012 - 1 point P5 W0 D1 L4 LOST to Ayr in the League Cup Finished ??

First of all i don't think anyone on this thread is calling for Butchers head. I don't understand why everyone is moaning that we want him out when no one is saying that. I also dont think we are a wee team in terms of Scottish football. Last night we played Ayr United who are significantly smaller than us at the present time and yet we weren't even able to score ONE against them. They completely out classed us in the first half and we deserved to go out. Everyone who has came on here to discuss last nights fiasco is well in their rights to be frustrated with that performance last night. It was embarrasing to watch. I only ask how long do we keep up with these stupid excuses of "the team needs more time to gel" If it takes this long to gel a team then is it really worth it? I don't think so. We had a team capable of top 6 last season so why not keep the bulk of that squad and improve it with 2 or 3 new faces, There were players that got released that are better than the current crop of players that has been brought in and Terry Butcher is the only person responsible for that. I am behind Terry Butcher at the moment but at what point in the season does it become acceptable to start criticising Terry Butcher if we aren't allowed to do so right now? It seems like he is untouchable and will be here regardless of how poor we do this season. Do we wait until we have played everyone once and possibly bottom after 11 games? 22? 33? 38? Or maybe next season in the first. We came up first time of asking last time, i'm not too sure we'd be able to do it again.

Losing 5-1 to County after being one up was a worse feeling than last night. Queens Park game was very similar to tonight as well so i don't think its one of the worst results ever but this cannot continue. There is far too many new players in the team for my liking, With all players back i couldn't put together a best 11 and i know Terry couldn't either. The problem with this is we are already 6 games into the season and i can't see it changing anytime soon. We now have Jonny Hayes out for a few games now and although he hasn't be performing as well as he should be i still think he is our best attacking option. With no striker and no creative midfielder we are really going to struggle now. We have St Johnstone, Dunfermline and St Mirren in October. IMO that is a massive month and will make or break our season. If we are still bottom after playing those 3 teams then i will be expecting us to go down. Does everyone actually think we'll beat Killie on saturday? I don't think we will, its more of a hope.

Of course he shouldn't be sacked but at what point do we stop with all these excuses? 10 spl games without a win? It's possible. It's frustrating because I like the team we have they just aren't producing the goods.

Your right, losing to Ayr united doesn't matter....

Is butcher untouchable? If we go down this season will he be here next year?

Much better now. Ayr player booked for diving in the box. There's a real sense of urgency in the team now

Tuffey mom so far. He is keeping us in this. It seems like everyone Is scared to shoot, they keep passing the ball to each other in the final third with no real chances or shots being created. Certainly look low in confidence while Ayr are up for this one. 2nd half. Tokely almost scores. Off the post and into the keepers arms while everyone stares and watches

Tuffey mom so far. He is keeping us in this. It seems like everyone Is scared to shoot, they keep passing the ball to each other in the final third with no real chances or shots being created. Certainly look low in confidence while Ayr are up for this one.

Hayes off with injury it seems

Just came close but it's been all Ayr so far.

Tokely is playing a defensive midfield role

With Aldred out does that leave room for anyone else to come in before the window shuts?

I would agree with this. I would also bet he thought he would be getting regular football when he signed with us. Why else would you go on loan to a smaller team. If he wasnt going to get a game, which he wasn't, he had no option but to go back.

I was rather surprised when County managed to turn it round from 1 down last night but i'm glad they did. If we beat Ayr tonight then i'd rather be playing the easier teams in the next round and right now Ross County are one of the easiest teams still in the competition.

It is not inconcievable that Tom wanted the game to give himself more match time. Maybe the coaching team felt he'd be a good leader for the lads. Not everything has a sinister reason. I would say now that this quite possibly did have a sinister reason.