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How many SFL teams need to say no to stop The Rangers being promoted to the 1st Division? I've heard some media reports say a majority is needed, and others saying 22 teams need to say yes to allow them in. So that's Raith Rovers Falkirk Morton Clyde Dunfermline Dumbarton stating that they will say no to the plans to promote The Rangers to Division 1.

Along similar lines, but have some sort of stall in the Eastgate / Falcon Square for the few weeks to the start of the season selling merchandise from the club shop. Of course, staff hours (unless trusted volunteers did it) and costs to the Eastagate Centre may hinder this.

Aye it is the same. Very big in France.

Aye. But I prefer the Remi Gaillard version.

It's gone from birbery to blackmail!!!

IF this new proposal is true and the BBC are correct in saying SPL clubs will vote, then I urge Kenny to vote NO. This is nothing short of bribery and is corrupt to the core. For years there was no reconstruction so that smaller clubs could be kept out. Now the shoe is on the other foot. I'd welcome play offs etc even if it means we're more likely to be relegated, as it's good for the game on a whole. But not, if the team getting promoted has not earned the place there. It HAS to be Division 3, or no SFL for Rangers. Any bribes should be rejected. The fans have made it clear. Any successful application must start in Division 3.

I don't like Andy Barrowman Dundee 9-11 Dunfermline I don't like Jim Jeffries Dundee 10-11 Dunfermline I don't like Jim Leishman Dundee 11-11 Dunfermline

Can we invite Aldershot or Bristol Rovers to apply? Lets look at the pros and cons of Dundee and Dunfermline in the SPL. Dundee stewards are one of the worst in the country. Dunfermline have very good stewards. Dundee 0-1 Dunfermline We already have trips to Dundee to watch Utd so it may get boring going to the same place more often. Dundee 0-2 Dunfermline The catering (particulary the bridies) are better at Dunfermline Dundee 0-3 Dunfermline Dundee are stronger that Dunfermline imho, so Dunfermline would be more likely to finish 12th Dundee 0-4 Dunfermline Dundee voted against our inclusion and Dunfermline voted for our inclusion in the SPL in 2004. Dundee 0-5 Dunfermline Half Time. Second half It's a kerfuffle getting to Dunfermline on the train Dundee 1-5 Dunfermline In general, Dundee is a better day out that Dunfermline Dundee 2-5 Dunfermline Dundee got relegated in 2005, so it would be nice to have them back for a change. Dundee 3-5 Dunfermline Dundee will bring another SPL derby. Dundee 4-5 Dunfermline Dunfermline finished bottom of SPL with little reistance and Dundee had a very good season finishing 2nd in SFL1. Dundee 5-5 Dunfermline Full time Dundee 5-5 Dunfermline Extra time. Dundee in the league will pi55 off this man..... Dundee 6-5 Dunfermline Welcome to the SPL Dundee

One of my gudgie friends was telling me the other day that he thinks it's going to be used for media. Maybe Charles can confirm this? I think however, they would have been better off keeping that section of the gound empty, but if if it gets more bums on seats then that's all that matters I suppose I can't laugh at them however. The stadium looks good. I notice Forza didn't upload the pictures of the other stands which do look impressive, albeit small.

But out of 'sporting integrity' they could have a case that they were playing in a league where a team cheated. It's an interesting one. However, Dunfermline is a rubbish away day, Dundee is ok. Not the greatest away day, but better than Dunfermline so from purely the 'away day' experience, it would have to be extra trips to Dundee for me.

If I remember rightly (after a re-vote) only 2 teams voted no. Partick Thistle (were getting relegated) and Dundee. This shouldn't and won't be taken into account if we have to vote Dundee in to the SPL imho. I'd support a yes to Dundee vote, it's about doing the right thing.

Good stuff! I hope we see the best of him this year, because no doubt about it, he is a very good player.

Well done Kenny. From the formation of our club in 1994, the amazing 3rd Division title season of 1997, THAT win on February 8th 2000, the First Division title of 2004, and the First Dvision title of 2010, I don't think i've ever felt so proud of our club. Heart of Midlothian, Dundee United, Hibernian, Inverness Caledonian Thistle and Aberdeen FC. The five clubs have shown the rest that fair play must come first.. I expect many other clubs to start saying no, (now it's filtering in that St Johnstone and even Kilmarnock are going to say no.) Now is the time for all of us to really get behind the club. I wasn't going to bother with buying the new strip as I haven't bought a strip in a few years, but as soon as it is released, I'll be placing my order. Every little helps. O2B. The first 5 clubs were significant. These 5 clubs have set the ball rolling to rebuild the game. We are 1 of them. The Famous Five! O2B a Jaggie!.

Hibs have officially stated that they will say no?

They turned me away when i asked about it. They won't do them in case anything happens to it cause they cant replace it since they dont sell it in there shop What an awful shop! Shows a lot of confidence in their staff then! lol

Off topic but from the same article Alex Posted in this thread: The defender (Gillet) , who is thought to be attracting interest from England, is currently in France and despite several attempts Inverness have not been able to contact him. Considering the May 31st deadline has passed, I think that when they do get in touch with him they should tell him to GTF. Stuart Duff all over again.

Careful what you say. You might not see yer ball again.

This. I'd also like to add that the Sky / Espn money (even if it is reduced) could and should be split equally between the 12 teams (instead of most of it going to Rangers (Oldco) and Celtic. The non-Old Firm teams including us have everything to gain. Seize this opportunty - it may be the last chance to save the game in Scotland. Please vote no.

Independence Day. Hopeully we'll be free of them after the vote.

Rumour has it we are going to play at Nairn

No clash with Celtic home fixtures, unsurprisingly. But Club 12 does clash with Dundee Utd's home games, which coulod turn out to be a problem. Interesting. If Dundee are promoted, the SPL will need to re-jig the fixtures. Happy with Midden away on first game of the season. One of my favourite away days.

I wonder who Celtic will be playing at New Year? :sherlock:

I will be checking carefully to see if any of Club 12's home matches clash with Celtics home matches. Somehow. I don't think they will.

I agree that this is not ideal prep. Not so sure about the need for 'glamour friendlies' but at least if we are staying in Scotland, games against the likes of Falkirk, Partick Thistle etc. They are probably on par with quite a few bottom half SPL teams.