quizzer

Yes we are inexperienced. However that is due to Butcher's choice of signings and team selection. We lost very little in the way of players in the summer - we knew Black was going and Morais was only here for a few months - and the rest, from what I see, left through no choice of their own. (Ok, Mcguire excepted, no further comment needed there...) No excuses. I've heard second or third hand admittedly, what the more experienced players are saying and they are certainly not happy.

Think you'll find the reason why many current-but-unselected players are not at games is because if they are not in the matchday squad then they have to pay to get in. Ridiculous, what does that do for morale. And yes, that is a new thing, didn't happen last season. And correct, it is indeed testimonial time for him.

Completely disagree. Got to be one of our best players all season. He wants to play as an out and out striker but instead has to do all the holding and setting up work, can't even think offhand of a single occasion he got the ball today when his back wasn't to goal. A terrific asset and got a fantastic work rate and ethic. Did you see the amount of blood pouring down his neck yet jumped up asap so he could get patched up and back on the pitch asap??

Could see see Butcher's arms waving in the air and the stand's reaction but wasn't sure what had been said - then I'm told by soemone involved that he'd called the fans effing a=holes. I've had enough. I was a very big supporter of the appointment, really wanted him here but now really want him out. By all accounts, Hastings was bullied out of the club and Roy is on same very fast train out of town. Some of our most promising talents which we've nurtured for years were uncerimounisly put out of the picture very quickly and replaced by - no offence to them - non-entities with most probably less talent and most certainly less devotion and love of the club. I've thought he was great, I've loved the talk, bought into the spin but now I think he is an egotistical - hell, let's go for it while feelings are high - maniac. Have his summer signings who he regularly plays/benches (Cox/Eagle/Hayes/Stratford/Sanchez/Bulvitis) got a dozen first team starts between them? Or could he have held onto or played Vigurs/Woods/Hastings/McBain/Duncan and kept stability in the team durung a very difficult transitional spell as we changed leagues? No direct link for one player to another btw, just examples. ANd on a good day, some can do a job for us - but some, no names mentioned as it is not their fault they are being asked to do a job above their skill set - most certainly cannot. I never thought I'd say or want it, but something from Robbo, Charlie and Bazza seems the way to go. The heart has been ripped out of the club, we need someone who cares to get it back. Munro is next to leave, don't let it happen.

Gobsmacked that he is very rarely even making the bench this season, and he is certainly well out of the picture. I reckon his experience could be invaluable at this time, and I'd rather McBain and Duncan on the pitch when things aren't going well than say Eagle and Stratford. Far far too many changes all at once to the team, particularly in midfield, but it seems Butcher is sticking with his players, as has been mentioned here and elsewhere. I agree incidentally about Cox going backwards recently - very odd, some have attributed it to be linked to bandage coming off?!? Timing certainly fits!

Pre-season gossip was Hastings to go to another club and Duff and Rooney on loan. Whether true or not, I'm guessing there is no way they could gamble on releasing Rooney due to other injuries, however now may be the time, particularly given the comments in today's courier. He hasn't shown the goalscoring/penalty box prowess that was suggested and his confidence appears to be pretty much zero. Sanchez offers "something different", Obihambo pace, Foran aerial/general threat, Barrowman proven (at this level, albeit not with us - yet...) poacher, Sutherland youth/potential - leaving Rooney out the picture. He's still a young lad and it would probably be beneficial all round for him to get some regular games under his belt. In a way, I guess loans are make or break times for many. A great way of getting experience and a step upwards (Robson/Mulgrew at "higher" level) or a way of finding their real level (too many to mention and no shame involved).

I'm in for sure. I've actually signed up with McBookie (should be Mac imo if pronouncing as Scottish...) and have taken advantage of several very generous promotions as well as having some payouts, if anyone is concerned.

Thinking of you all, as are many many people in Inverness

me +4

I believe the club shop has apparently made signficant profit over the close season. I think it is a ridiculous decision, at least wait and see how the football team is going a few months into the season, ie is there any chance of us getting promoted, before closing it. Now the staff are/about to be redundant, that's them gone, there is no way they'll be coming back as all being well they'll be happily settled into their own new jobs if/when we get re-promoted. Instead there'll be new people - probably young so they can be paid even less - on the minimum wage employed simply as sales assistants. I absolutely agree that the women in the shop are not just there to sell us stuff, they are fantastic ambassadors and I for one have had service way beyond the call of duty, and I know many others i the same boat. Incidentally, the club are currently not taking bookings for christmas parties, traditionally a good source of revenue - as they are unsure if they'll have anyone available to run them due to redundancies. Tw@ts.

Quick contribution - DLA is paid to both those in and out of work, it is there to help people meet extra costs of their disability/condition rather than be the sole benefit income. I work with a couple of people who receive higher rate of care component of DLA (currently about ?50 a week at a rough estimate), those who can't work through ill health claim other "mainstream" benefits. ICT absolutely definitely provide free entry to those with disabilities, was not sure of qualification level but I know those in wheelchairs certainly get in free, with a carer.

Imrie back Tuesday apparently, thought he was going to be out longer. Achilles problem.

Views of Leicester fans Hmmm.... :D

Bar open??

Orion lined up as shirt sponsors for next season - before the battle commenced! All seems crazy.

If you notice, i did come up with an alternative, another bus. So people have the choice between the two. Also was unreasonable about what i said? I was simply stating another bus would be good. Reading his first post I would have to totally agree with DC, I think perhaps that it is quizzer who is being juvenile coming on to a thread just to call people names. Don't think you'll find anywhere within my post where I called anyone any names, on the contrary actually, I posted as I found the OP's first post came across as a personal attack. I certainly didn't come on here simply to call anyone names, I was joining the discussion and putting forward my point. It's easy to criticise the way buses are run but I challenge anyone else to put one on every fortnight on a regular basis! For someone to organise a bus personally (without a business/club/organisation behind them) is a lot of work and as I said before, a big financial gamble as I believe a day's bus hire is approx ?500, as well a lot of work and organisation. I can't see any pubs or businesses running them to away games as they simply have nothing to gain.

I'm with Chris - if you are not happy with the Supporters Club one then do it yourself, use your initiative and put one on yourself. That way you go go when you want, where you want and do what you want - apart from drink, obviously... May I also add that I would consider it rather juvenile to come on and say you don't want to use the bus that Kath runs (actually, it is the Supp Club that runs it, she is bus convenor) if you are not going to make a reasoned argument nor offer alternative suggestions or constructive advice. The bus doesn't always suit me so I simply don't use it - end of story! I too have been involved with running buses to games and when you see the responsibility, and to an even greater extent, the financial gamble involved, then you may think again.

Brian Kerr, the most anonymous man ever to wear the blue and red of ICT. Other than (being very generous) the game at Pittodrie, I challenge anyone to re-watch a game and find one where he made more than 5 positive contributions. In the final game, we counted him "touch" the ball 3 times in the 2nd half, whcih is absolutely disgraceful for a central midfielder facing relegation, as well as redundancy on a personal level. Didn't ever tackle, chased the ball but held back, wasted it if it ever fell to his feet - what more can I say. Yes he ran after the ball a lot but held back, didn't ever win it, give me Duncan ANY DAY. His ability may be doubted by some but can few can doubt his effort or intentions (ay ok, I'm not saying it always pays off!) and I'd far rather have him this season than Kerr. Let Dundee take him, let him waste a huge chunk of their wages and a key place in their squad in him and lets see what TB can come up with. DOn't anyone forget that Kerr was literally on the scrapheap of Scottyish football before he got lucky with us, trained with one of our relegation rivals but they weren't interested in signing him, albeit they were rather spoilt in middle of park.

nicky walker tbh, none have exactly looked as international calibre while here, some too soon, some too late. Marius closest, Hastings possible given standing of his country and has by all accounts put in some ine appearances for them.

Proctor to score first and Barrowman last goal. Any others in between very welcome, particularly as Falkirk will be scoring approx but precisely zero. Please. Pretty please?!?! Just realised - a clean sheet and we're grand, that's all we need - has our defence ever had so much pressure? Or is the pressure on the attack to score to take it off the defence? Jeez, I'll just be glad when the week is over, it's been quite some week/month and I'm totally shattered with it all.

If you go to the Hamilton v Motherwell game on bbc website it is actually our match, they seem to have swapped.

Get shot of him - NOW. At no point did proctor/munro/tokely make any move or judgement call today that was anywhere near as bad an error of judgement as any of approx 6 that lionel made. Their number 36 took advantage right from the first min and drew lionel into making foul after foul upon him, mainly right at the goal line. I feared greatly that he was going to cost us the game and very possibly our SPL status. He seems generally incapable of just booting the ball clear and at one point twisted and took the same guy on about 8 times, when could easily have just belted it out. I don't get th anti-Munro comments today - personally I thought he was magnificent at the back and generally cleared everything coming towards our goal, thought Tokely did very well at sticking to his task (booo) and cleared most that came to him in the air. Get Hastings back asap - we just can't afford to have Lionel in for the rest of the season, as enteraining and enigmatic as he may be!

--------------esson---------------- tokely pavels munro hastings proctor black kerr imrie ----foran --- morais (with vigurs and barrowman on after an hour after imrie and morais have ran themselves into the ground!) lionel proved himself - yet again - to be a horrific liability which we cannot afford, as has already been said. Hamilton knew this from the off today and took advantage right from the start, whereas play was barely near proc for first half.

I took the kindly offered 28/1 on betfair...

Anyone else take odds of 9/1 for Eric to score anytime during this match at a certain bookie - absolutely irrestistible!?