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CH2 makes some good points. I think Wyness was a better striker than Mckay, albeit predominately in the lower leagues. Was Rooney better? Not much in it imo. Both took a season or more with us before they started scoring regularly. I wonder if Rooney's scoring to chances ratio might have been slightly better. I think Mckay's is relatively poor from the matches I've seen (live or on TV). Rooney hasn't been a runaway success in Englandshire, and I honestly think McKay would struggle too. But that doesn't mean I would sell him without a replacement in the offing. But he goes in this window, I can see us being offered, and accepting quite a bit less than £1m for him. As DD said, if he stays till the end of the season and bags another 15 or so goals by then, that could be a different story.

Only a cad or a bounder would steal your microwave!

For me, there is no argument. He should be at left back. I never liked him at right back, even when we were winning, and I don.t believe it is just coincidence that our team is playing well again with Raven correctly reintroduced at right back.

In the cool light of late evening I' m reflecting on just how good that win was. If I'm honest I expected us to lose today, as I suspect did many other ICT supporters. But now I can see that win as a stepping stone to a successful second half of the season. And that will be just reward for the fantastic start we made to this season. It would have been difficult to watch us slowly drift down the league, even to 7th place or below. But now, based solely on how we played today, I am optimistic that we will challenge for second spot. A cup win, or two, is not out of the question either. At times today we played the best football I have seen us play since a spell against Killie at their place a couple of seasons ago when, for about 20 minutes, we were simply fantastic (even though we only won 2-1 in the end!). Coupled with Latapy joining as assistant, Tansey rejoining and being terrific today, and maybe Hughes beginning to find his feet, I am all of a sudden hugely optimistic for the remainder of the season. With a severely depleted team today (no Warren or Draper), our defence was simply immense. In fact it will be a hard job for Hughes to decide who to drop to accommodate these two back into the starting line up. Nice problem for him to have. What with Williams , at last, showing how well he can play, I say again, we have every chance of realising the potential that the first half of the season promised. Roll on the next few weeks!

Fabulous, well deserved win. We showed real bottle in second half. Hard to pick a MOM. Whole defence was magnificent, plus Williams (in first half particularly) and Tansey when he came on.

Mckay should have sewn it up there!

How unlucky was that? Must say, Tansey has been great since he came on. Come on lads, hold on, you deserve to win this.

Great chance there for 2-0. Boys playing lovely football right now.

Well worth that interval lead. This game could see our season back on track! Let's hope we can see it through.

Nice goal too. I've got it on some dodgy channel! Should do Williams' confidence a bit of good. Carry on the good work lads.

Glad he's back. It sounds as though he wanted to come back here, if the suggestions that there was competition from some other teams are true. I suspect he may turn out to be a shrewd signing.

Mckay was a poor penalty taker. Apart from his misses, quite a few others were poorly hit and lucky to go in. I wouldn't want to see him back as our penalty taker.

Yes, I go along with what seems to be the majority view, that he would be a worthwhile addition to the squad, especially if Vincent goes. The bonus is that he can take a decent free kick, and penalties. Although to be fair, his first season with us was when we had no more than a couple of penalties awarded to us all season (from memory), but I did see him score one in the pre-season at Yeovil.

I don't want Vincent to go, but nobody is indispensable. We always seem to plug the gaps very adequately when we have lost important players in the past. Black, Hayes, Rooney all spring to mind!

But that's only 1 point out of 12 in last 4 home games.. Not good enough! Would be relegation form but for our great start to the season. We'll do well to stay in top 6 I fear.

ffs What with Brill playing hari kari, and Ross missing from the spot, this has a horrible feeling abour it. Hope I'm wrong.

It is a pity for the fans who have wasted time and money. But I can't help thinking it is no bad thing. Another defeat today would have been the last straw for many of us. Gives us a little bit more time to regroup after a dire Xmas/New Year period. wonder if Raven would have played???

Most of this forum will agree with you, redandblack. We've been clamouring for Raven's return for several games now. We always look a better side with him at right back, as he proved so well in second half v Dons.

3 home defeats on the trot is not acceptable under any circumstances. Whether the team is unsettled because of Butcher leaving, or whether the new manager is changing things for the worse, I don't know, but he has to get it right soon. I don't fancy our chances at 'Well on Saturday. Is that 3 games in a row Hughes has stuck with the same starting line up, despite many of us thinking that Raven should have been back after the Aberdeen game. The defence seems to be 'all over the place', and apart from the three against the Dons, goals are scarce too. Sadly, the season looks like tailing off into mediocrity, after such a brilliant start. Lets hope we get it right before the Cup matches.

I've said it before, and I repeat, get Sam Winnall back. He is scoring goals 'for fun' in EPL2

Leaving Raven out again is a joke. The experiment of Shinnie at right back had run its course a couple of games ago. Doesn't Yogi read this forum!!!

Totally agree with Yngwie. I know he has never had more than about 15 mins to prove himself, but , for me, he doesn't cut it. Get Sam Winnal back. At least he has shown he van score goals in EPL2!

I've said it before, we play much better with Raven at right back. Shinnie has been OK ish there, but maybe he was ' missing' when Commons had a free run down that side today for their early goal. Celtic were there for the taking today, they never got out of first gear. Nevertheless, we are still the second best team in the division, which is, realistically, the best we could have hoped for. Let's consolidate now, and make sure we claim that second spot. It is there for us to grab. Come on ICT, do us supporters proud, and secure that which is rightfully ours!

Apart from being caught out early on, we've not been outplayed by this Celtic team. Every chance we could do something in the second half. Pretend we're four down and maybe we'll be ok.

Great chance for McKay on the half hour mark. Think he was surprised that he had a virtually free header.