STFU

If you watch it back, Tokely puts his hand up to stop the other player running in to him. A little unfortunate that he took it on the chin, but right call by the refs to just continue the match.

We were relegated in 2017 by 2 points and that season bore many resemblances to last season with us having injury issues, fan discontent at the style of football and claims that the board lacked ambition and weren't listening. Were you shouting in defence of the manager and board back then?

None of the current board were elected and the CEO and Chairman are board appointed. We've already seen from DM that the Chairman doesn't have a clue what's going on, and it follows that the board are just as much in the dark, or denial. It's the CEO's job to report in to them what's going on, so you have to question what he's telling them. I imagine he's hiding behind injury crisis and cost of living excuses for declines on and off the pitch, with promises of filling the financial hole with concerts and battery farm schemes, and then blaming others when these don't pan out.

That is exactly the path we are on and we just had our worst league finish in over 20 years, with eye-watering financial losses. That is entirely down to mismanagement of things off the park. You can take a 'keep paying and praying ' approach if you like, but I won't be.

This the same chairman who publicly stated he knew nothing about running a football club, which is why he brought in Gardiner. It should be no surprise to anyone.

It's beyond promises of change and doing things differently for me. We've had over 5 years of that and nothing has improved, quite the opposite. We're at the point where we need to see action from the club. That's too late for me this season as I've already decided not to renew my season ticket, and I get the feeling it's the same for many others. The damage is done and the best we, and the club, can hope for is repairing it for future. I still want the best for the team on the park and will cheer them in from afar, but it's impossible to separate any financial support for the team from also financially supporting those who have become a cancer to ICTFC and I refuse to spend a penny with them. I'm even giving consideration to extending that personal boycott to sponsors and advertisers as well in the hope that in some small way that will encourage them to pursue an end to this madness.

He definitely had charm, but that was the only thing that set him apart from the current incumbent. Let's not forget that it was he and the rest of Muirfield Mills who started the club on the descent it currently finds itself on.

There definitely was.

It may not be what you mean, but it's definitely the impression your post gave.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like the call didn't go that well, especially if it didn't do anything to convince you that things would change.

I don't think anyone is questioning footballing ability. Did we learn nothing from the Gardyne situation and the dangers of signing players with a disruptive history?

Agreed. This is also disgusting and shows a total lack of respect.

Please don't, not even in jest!

More like Leith Utd.

He's too busy setting up shell companies for unscrupulous former bankrupts who have an interest it taking over football clubs with other people's money.

There's a significant number of posts on this forum from fans whom have tried to communicate with the club and got zero response. Are some now suggesting we have to pay to join the trust to have any chance of receiving such a courtesy?

If Billy goes, I look forward to the highest paid, least valuable person at the club releasing a statement about wage caps and not letting players hold the club to ransom, blah, blah, blah.

A couple of newspapers now confirming that Ayr are set to sign Billy, so it's more than just Twitter Talk.

How does it encourage new members if they don't tell anyone outside the organisation what they're doing?

We get flurries of communication every now and then, but it often tells us nothing and is just noise. Proper fan engagement, unless you're a pet podcaster or kindergarten 94, is non existent, and the fan experience is the worst it has ever been. Where's the kids meet and greets, the big game they were promised, the xmas party, end of season awards night? These are the very basics. Customer service is also poor, as already documented by others. They rely too much on fan loyalty, but everyone is losing patience and that is diminishing. Complain and you get the 'poor us' we're a small team and doing our best. We have more employees than we ever had, and are somehow struggling to a greater extent?

Hopefully whatever 11 year old Scot Gardiner gets to write his statements will have more time when the schools break up for the summer and Information will get out a bit quicker.

Taking a chance on another player who is recovering/just back from an injury? Did we learn nothing from last season?

Sounds like Billy has an option of another season if HE wants it, but is maybe trying to negotiate for a longer contract? Given where we are, I'd have thought the club would be biting his hand off to get two years out of him. He's got at least that left in him at Championship level, and if by some miracle we go up, he'd be a handy player to have in the squad for our first year in the top league whether a regular starter/90 minute player or not.

To get money for players, you actually need to have players who are worth anything, and they have been in very short supply at ICTFC the last few years.

Some people seem to have forgotten we just finished in the bottom half of one of the weakest Championship leagues in a long time! The fact some are trying to spin it as a successful season shows the current level of our ambition!