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He did get a few chances earlier in the season when Birmingham's other strikers were not available for one reason or another. He obviously didn't impress enough to secure his place. It is interesting to guess, that with the complete lack of penalties ICT have had, just how many goals would he have scored for us so far this season. No more than Tade would be my view.

To be honest I can't think of any pubs in Embra that would put up with ICTFC fans singing. Just saying.

Need to find a new pre match bar for Hearts away. The no singing thing is rubbish! Though Diggers seats do make for comfy beds if you need a nap.

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TBH I think Butcher gets a great deal of backing from people on this forum and that us ICT fans on the whole have been more understanding and patient than fans of many other teams would be in a similar situation so I really don't see your issue there. However you can't say that you should back a manager with blind faith and agree with everything they do, unless of course that's your genuine view. Some people might disagree with substitutions, team selection, formation, signings etc that doesn't necessarily that they hate Butcher and everything he does. Dunno if you are still at School/College/Uni or out in the working world but just because someone's the gaffer doesn't mean their always right, trust me. Surely some people can look at the evidence so far this season - the results and say well maybe he should have done (and do) this and that? IMO out of the signings you mention a couple look good, a couple look mediocre and one I just canne decide WTF I think. If you are tired of the subject and wanna move on save your energy and just stop posting (on that particular topic, not everything obviously lol)! As for a 'new dawn' I'll wait till we start racking up points and stop propping up the table before I start buying into anything close to that!! I suppose though 'It's always darkest before the dawn' :biggrin:

munro and duncan are gone time to move on if hogg hasnt replaced munro then we have a reliable young 19 year old in meekings who will im not going to sit and whinge about what butchers done by getting rid of munro because i dont think it matters he done alot for the club but everyones time comes to an end.

Esson Piermayr Meekings Hogg shinnie Hayes Davis, COX, Chippendale sutherland, A.Shinnie Subs: Tuffey, foran, Gillet, tansey, McKay,tade, tokley