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We must have the most pessimistic fans in football. Give the lad and the partnership a chance before writing them both off.

A great result for us tonight considering the shambles we were at the weekend. Well done to all concerned for bouncing back in a very positive manner.

Let's give him a chance eh?!

The question is Butcher the man for the job, well yes he is actually a football manager whether we like it or not. I know everyone say he “good” with the press but that my problem. He tends to tell the press what he thinks which the press love. He is far too realistic which then means he is far too negative. I would prefer if he did what every other manager did and just talk up team, the style of football, all the plus points with the club and ignore the rest. We are top goal scorers at the moment with 7 goals in four games. Our recognised strikers have all scored along with 2 midfield players. We scored 2 goals against the champions elect, how many other team will do that this year in the SPL? At the start of season how many point would you realistically expect after 4 games, especially after play two of the top 4 club in the country? Personally I would have thought 4, a draw away to St Mirren and home win against Kilmarnock. So has the start of season been so bad that it is time to lock away any sharp objects. PS can anyone on here tell me that any of the game this season has been boring? I have been to all the games apart from Hearts (still upset). 16 goals with 2 red cards that an average of 4 goals a game with a red cards every 2 games. You don’t get that following EPL or Spanish teams.

Brew left us as soon as he could. Was well on the way to getting Dundee United relegated. Failed there. Came back here when he wasn't wanted. Was pretty certain to get us relegated too. Butcher was the choice of CTO. Some might blame him for getting us relegated. I thought he gave us hope. Brought us up at the first opportunity. Has been nowhere near relegation since we came back up. Just started a new season with only one defeat and that's to the champions of last year and almost certainly this. The criticism is just way over the top this early in the season. But then, it's not about this season is it? It's about wanting someone to fail, so they can say "I'm right at last! We should never have hired him, no matter how well we've done these past few seasons!" It's just simply tedious. Shout for his head if he fails but one defeat to Celtic???? It's ridiculous.

I disagree. The youngsters will get their chance but I think the manager needs to pick what he thinks is his strongest attack minded team available for this one. There are 3 reasons. We have yet to have a win in the league this season and there is a need for more time for the players to gel and particularly for the defence to gel. We are creating chances and scoring but are shipping too many. Get that right and we could win a lot of matches this season. Now is not the time to mess around with the side. There is also no point in giving players a "rest" because there is a weeks international beak after the Motherwell match. Linked to that is the need for team to get the confidence of a good win to get some momentum going. We need our best players playing well to acheive that. We should not under-estimate Arbroath - note that the Rangers were held by Berwick today and after 3 games are only 4th. Getting a win and hopefully by 2 or 3 goals or more should do wonders for morale. And as many have been saying on this forum, we need a decent cup run, both to ignite some momentum of support but also to help with our difficult financial situation. It may only be Arbroath but this is an important game for the club and we need to approach it with as much seriousness as if it was a crunch league game.

This would mabye be an oppertunity to look at taking graduates from the local area. As someone graduating from uni next year I would love an oppertunity like this. The Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen do degrees in Marketing, Journalism, PR, Buisness Management etc. Even trying to set up some sort of work placement scheme which is something that university prides itself on could bring in some fresh ideas.

All three spl clubs 1-0 ahead after first quarter of game.

How do you come by this? Will be leaving work shortly to drive down, just curious.

Exactly. For every Darren Mackie there is a David Davis For any player to have interested Arsene Wenger or his scouts enough to sign for them then there must be more than a splash of potential. If we can help these youngsters realise that potential whilst supplementing our squad then i'm all for it

"This is the beginning of a partnership with Arsenal that will help their younger players gain first team experience with Inverness Caley Thistle in this season and the future." Let's hope it's better than the Sheffield Utd partnership!

What car ?

Fer fecks sake wummin - he played against feckin wee insects as a youngster, he cant spell Caledonian and he plays Charlie Christie alomgside Kaka which is all wrong tactically.

Extract from Arsenal's website:- A powerful centre forward, Philip impressed in his role as a lone striker in the Under-18s last season and finished as the team’s top goalscorer with nine goals. His consistent displays for Steve Bould’s youngsters earned him a call-up to the reserves, where he plundered his first goal against Wolves in February 2012. A Republic of Ireland youth international, Philip joined Arsenal from Norwich in summer 2010 after impressing Liam Brady and his team while on trial at London Colney. Obviously not yet the finished article, but these credentials at least show some promise!!

I hope TB puts out a strong team for the cup games. With 3 SPL teams knocked out already, it has to be our best chance of a trophy.

In my opinion, Shane is limited as a player and I can see why he plays where he does. he provides a useful "out" for Esson in the wide areas and has won about 60% of the balls knocked out to him in that area. It's what he does with them that is the problem. He doesn't appear to have the game intelligence to look a move or two ahead, which he has to in that role, especially in trying to provide the link to McKay. Where else do you play him? Central mid is probably his natural position (his scoring record would suggest his striking capabilities are average at best) but would he get a game ahead of Foran or OTJ or Draper? Probably not. I can see a day when Butcher plays two wide players in Doran and AN Other, and that will be that for Shane. As for McAllister, it's no surprise that a few SPL clubs have sniffed around him and quietly dropped their interest after a while. I wonder why? I suspect the answer is that he plain ain't good enough.

Personally I think that small crowds in down to the whole match day experience at the Tulloch Caledonian Stadium. There is nothing the club can do about the football on show but there are thing which could be greatly improved the atmosphere at the ground. Where is the match build up before the game? Big clubs tend to have a build-up from 2.30 ending with the playing of the club’s theme tune before kick-off to get the crowd singing. Why don’t we have a theme tune? Preferable something everyone knows the words to. (Nothing by 10CC and Graza please) When we score where is the good music to celebrate with, where is the not so good music when the opposition score. Any tactic should be used to try up lift our team, we are at home. Forget this stiff upper lip rubbish. People who when to the Northern Meeting park last weekend would have been very disappointed if there was no big stage, flashing lights, big speakers etc to go with the acts on show. Also there is always someone collecting money at the gate. Why aren’t they ask to provide the entertainment at halftime. No free rides here. Even it is only an egg and spoon race. For example our next match is against Aberdeen, one team in blue the other in red. Gives both fans something to cheer at. All the club would have to do is veto anything suggestion which they did not like. Remember it is them who want to our money.

Well our problems are well documented it is expensive for the product not enough people in inverness support there local side (Old firm dominance as we know) and after last season lots have been put off and for a while the atmosphere has been rank rotten for a number of seasons which hasnt done anything to incourage people to come. Now the club did what fans asked and some wrongfully made promises that they didnt keep some didnt but wanted the club to do the right thing anyway. But i think one factor which still causes lots of people to stay away is the SPL is still the SPL. Rangers may have gone and wont be back for a while especially if there away form continues to be indifferent (haha). But the SPL is still uncompetitive and still uneven and has all the problems that continues to plague it even with one major obsticle cleared. People will return if the product becomes exciting and fresh something new which can get people excited as well as distributing money more evenly. The SPL needs to change because the club has done what is asked of it and hasnt really improved attendences and from where im sitting no club has really improved. Killie still average around 5,000 no real increase the bigger clubs like hearts dundee united who u think may come out in numbers as they have a chance to challenge celtic and also champs football they havent improved dramatically so we need to change and freshen up the product as whole

If only our opponents would field a team of cones........

I quit a good while ago but I could have done with one yesterday at half time myself!