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Another illustration of just how ineffective and amateurish our commercial department is. Just a few weeks until the start of the season and we don't have a sponsor for either the right or the left sock. A disgrace !

I appreciate it's the middle aged curmudgeon in me but I don't get this obsession with squad numbers. What's wrong with the starting IX wearing shirt numbers 1 to 11 or, for that matter, the leagues being the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Divisions ? On second thought, just ignore me. Grumpy old man mode this morning and have not yet had my caffeine fix.

Do you not mean "under the tram"? Salt and sauce, ken!

Aye. The last game he managed us at Caley stadium, I belted down to the side of the tunnel at the end and shouted "Don't do it Terry! Hibs will **** you up!" - so he can't say he wasn't warned.

Given the financial state of Scottish football imagine the club trying to earn some much needed money. Absolutely shocking.

No more sponsors than last season, just different names. Subway for Orion Group on the front, Korries for Orion Jobs on the back and the same shorts sponsor. Good for the club and also for the sponsors. Aye totally agree! Always someone not happy tho it seems!

No more sponsors than last season, just different names. Subway for Orion Group on the front, Korries for Orion Jobs on the back and the same shorts sponsor. Good for the club and also for the sponsors.

Back of Shirt sponsor revealed : http://bit.ly/1xNr5Y6

Pretty much as nasty as CyberBrits, I find, and I wish both lots would wind their necks in. However, the CyberNats and CyberBrits are just wee unimportant people, like me and you, venting their spleen anywhere they can vent it....undoubtedly because they have nothing more sensible to say. I remember the tweets saying Andy Murray was a Scottish C--t and a c--t Jock and lots of people using that kind of epithet and hoping he'd lose the wimbledon final..even if you don't! The one thing I have always thought about twitter(apart from the fact that I can't say anything much on it, because I don't do 140 characters or less saying anything)..and to an extent about FaceBook, is that they are a blight on the internet world. They are systems too easily abused by the numpties, or hackers. Can you, or anyone, prove, for example, that the people in either camp reputedly tweeting abusive crap are actually people in the camp it looks like they are in, from the tweets? There is getting to be a tendency to assume what is on twitter is as believable as what appears in the MSM..and it just isn't necessarily so in the case of Twitter.and rarely so in the case of the MSM. I find it more, infinitely more, worrying that the Unionist MSM will happily produce unsubstantiated gossip, call it "news" and run with it for days...like the "CyberNat" abuse against Susan Calman, which couldn't be substantiated.....and ditto the CyberNat abuse of Kezia Dugdale, which also couldn't be substantiated, but spun for all it was worth even to the extent that one Unionist paper actually followed, doorstepped and identified names and abodes of private citizens they claimed were Cybernats. Yet when both Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon got abuse and death threats on twitter..not a peep from the MSM that I ever noticed. And I see they are at it again with Clare Lally.....To quote Wings, who actually checks out the stuff in the media....... We spent much of yesterday evening trying to actually track down the “vicious barrage” of vile cybernat abuse that Labour and “Better Together” activist says she was subjected to after being revealed to be rather less of an “ordinary” member of the public than the No camp presented her as at its recent Glasgow rally, and which has received blanket media coverage. As yet, we’ve drawn a blank. We’ve made repeated requests, including to people who’ve contacted us angrily claiming to be her friends or family members, for evidence of any abusive comments at all. All have been met with an abrupt outbreak of silence. Scotland 2014 devoted almost its entire 30-minute show to the issue last night. To depict the terrible onslaught, the above tweets [3] were all they could come up with. The entire affair is starting to smell distinctly piscine. The decision to blur the names of the “offensive” tweeters is curious in itself. These people have posted something in public, so it’s hard to see what purpose is served by obscuring them. One of the tweets – the Panini sticker album joke – is actually one of ours. Curiously the BBC has edited part of it out: Rest here http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-worst-of-the-worst/ and last para Our request remains open. If anyone has any evidence of ANY abuse being directed at Clare Lally we’d like to see it, and we will unequivocally condemn it. Until then, we reserve the right to call foul. In its absence no rational conclusion will be possible other than that “cybernats” – a pejorative term in itself – have been vilified and excoriated by politicians and journalists, yet again, on the basis of phantoms.

I'm English and I hate the English media too. But is the English media really any different from the Scottish media? Had Scotland qualified and England not, would we be having restrained reporting and regrets expressed that our much loved neighbours were not also in the competition? I think not. Reporting of the national team in most countries is totally OTT so not supporting England just because you don't like the English media seems a bit of a strange one to me. But unlike Laurence, I don't see the ABE attitude bigotted in any way. It is just a natural feeling of not wanting the neighbours having too many bragging rights - much the same as us lot having a good laugh at County's expense. I'm actually very happy for people to strongly endorse the ABE viewpoint because it will only make it more enjoyable to celebrate when England win the world cup - again. (I'm not sure if it's been mentioned recently but we actually won it in 1966!) If the Scots didn't want England to fail miserably I'd have nobody to gloat over! Banter aside, I honestly don't expect England to come through the group stage. Italy have been poor recently but have a knack of scraping through when form is not good. With the competition being in South America I think Uruquay will do well and Costa Rica could be a bit of a dark horse. England could well finish bottom of their group. I can now claim bragging rights if they exceed my miserable expectations.

That's an interesting point there. Going by this forum over a few years, both Robbo and Pele still seem well liked. Brew not popular as a manager but no animosity as a person. In fact, I remember even suggesting that to get us to the end of the season, a makeshift dream team of Pele, Robbo, Shearer and Christie in various roles should have been considered. Other people might disagree due to perceived talent but not many because they moved. For us and Butcher, it was all about that final Inverness v Hibs game. A disgrace that soiled everything. Professionalism is all we asked.

No doubt he'll surface at some point in the media as a pundit, and I don't think he'll regard himself as finished as a manager yet. As far as buttressing his own ego goes, I think he can genuinely say that he didn't get enough time at Hibs and as others have said, perhaps either Petrie or Dempster have thrown him under the bus in an effort to deflect from wholesale infrastructure problems at Easter Road. Time will tell, but it's not going to make TB look at his own failings any harder than in the past, which is a shame. It's clear that he had lost the dressing room and that anyone associated with him will be tanished so I can't see Marsalla or Malpas surviving the process. They will be the only things at Easter road that he held control over, so guilt by association is all that is left to them. TB had his ideal environment here, in that the club was small enough and his stature big enough for him to control everything. Transferring that to Hibs, creating a team in his own image and succeeding where so many others had failed would have been irresistable to TB, but there is no way that he could ever have coped with diluting that control to Leann Dempster of all people and so everything has ended in the only way it was ever going to - just a bit earlier than most would have thought. TB did a lot of good things for this club, and I liked the guy on a personal level. Because of that I ain't going to revel in this, or rejoice in his downfall. All I'm going to do is see how John Hughes builds on what TB left and enjoy where that takes us. Best of luck Terry. see that spellchecker.........

I get the feeling that she gave TB every opportunity to convince her that he was the man with the ability and the vision to lead Hibs straight back up and he singularly failed to do so hence she made the reasonable and consiered decision to dispense with him and recruit someone who, in her view is the right person. Some of the criticism of her not having any football or coaching experience, in my view, smacks of sexism. Football club CEOs generally don't have that personal skill set. what the good ones do have is the ability to identify and recruit those who do and she seems to have proved herself adept at that in her previous post at Fir Park.

Found this article to be quite interesting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27761373