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Can't say it would make much difference... The noise/atmosphere from Section G isn't really that great, constant or intimidating. Fair play to the guys that want to sing, enjoy yourselves, but don't make it out to be something it isn't... There have been groups before and there will be groups after you guys. Was it not BENI, or something similar, that made out they were superfans, the self appointed leader got in a hissy fit on here for not being appreciated enough and wandered off to support Killie?? Don't make the same mistake, just enjoy yourselves and don't take it all so seriously, it's football after all - it's supposed to be escapism from day to day life!!

Real supporters? How do you qualify to be a 'real supporter'? I'd be interested to know your definition on that one as I would class myself as one, having been an ICT supporter since attending that first friendly v. St Mirren at Telford Street all those years ago, although I don't jump around and sing... Surely an extroverted personality isn't a pre-requisite to being a 'real supporter' of a football team? On a further point, the atmosphere is pretty low key at matches, I'd agree. I also don't see why folk get so upset by others who don't show support in the same way as them. Coincidentally, I've been to quite a few football matches around Europe and some pretty fantastic atmospheres and the 'real supporters' in Section G, presumably defined as 'real' as they believe they provide vocal backing (of sorts), are really not that noisy, constant and even noticeable at most games. Not a criticism cos if the guys want to sing, let them sing, it's all good fun. Just think that if they consider what they get up to on match day as vociferous, boisterous or being the creators of an intimidating atmosphere then perhaps they need to experience football crowds a little more...

We are in a stronger position than most give us credit for. If someone had said we'd be 4 points off the top at the start of November at the start of the season I wouldn't have been too bothered and have said that was a great position to be in. Also, the Champions in waiting who have enjoyed an excellent start to this formality of a promotion season will (hopefully) be a point behind the team fighting against successive relegations this time next week... It's all about standards and expectations, we have higher than most given our recent history. Season has a very, very long way to go though...!

If I remember right the official club website, ictfc.co.uk, only came into being after promotion to the SPL IN 2004? There was no official ICT presence on the internet before that although this site was mentioned in the matchday programme. The developers of ictfc.co.uk, Perform Group, can even provide this service as part of the official site, no mention of what the added cost would be but when you look at some of their other clients, 13 Premiership clubs, pretty much all of the lower English clubs and half dozen Scottish clubs including Rangers, Hearts, Killie and Dunfermline, surely it isn't a difficult option to include? Also, was registration not required initially with ictfc.co.uk with the hint that further services would be forthcoming?

Yawn... every game this topic gets done to death... If you want to sing, sing. If you don't, don't. That's the way it is and it's always gonna be at Caley Park. For those of you who get so upset, talk of boycotting games if it doesn't improve, etc. why get so angry about it?!

McBain - Nearly 35, Butcher doesn't see him as one for the future and it is obvious his plan has been to build and develop a new younger team. Squad player but no longer a regular Barrowman - Continues to get chances but has yet again failed to take them. No arguments from this end about limiting his opportunities. Djebi-Zadi - Is God awful as a footballer. The 1st County game was hopefully the final straw. Nick Ross - 7 appearances and a first start 2 weeks ago, hardly disappeared or out of contention!! Graeme Shinnie - 1 appearance, full debut 2 weeks ago, did very well but probably not ready to come in to an under performing team and the pressure that would bring for an 18 year old just starting out. Jamie Duff - Out with a serious injury and had no time at the start of the season to get into the team. I do think he would have seen a lot of match action this year too. Vigurs and Wood I feel were bad decisions to allow to leave as I think both would have flourished at this level. Whether it was more an attitude issue, as has been rumoured with Vigurs, an ability decision or simply they were cheaper to release at the end of their contracts than others who still had time to run, who knows? Mihajduks would also have been a bonus had he been able to stay but that deal seemed as complicated as a Niculae sell-on clause and that possibly had more to do with it. Morais and Kerr were disappointing to lose too, although both have moved onto better things, either on a football or financial level. As for the other players who left the club, Hastings is the only one that I think I would have liked to have stayed but not hugely bothered that he left. Gathuessi and Byrne played something like 45 minutes between them and were no loss, neither has has managed to find a club while McGuire, possibly the slowest player I have ever seen, now plays with Formantine United. In short, Butcher clearly has the strategy he wants to bring in his own team, play his way and he feels this will be what takes the club forward. I like his ideas on paper, defence should be stronger than it is given the personnel we have there, I like the idea of playing with 2 wide midfielders to stretch the opposition and create space for front men. I feel the centre midfield in our weakest area but I really liked the way we played v Queens before the 2nd goal, with Sanchez in 'the hole' providing the link to the attack, first time I have seen ICT do that this season and probably in response to the issue of midfield not supporting the strikers effectively enough. The drawback has been performances haven't happened but maybe that is to be expected from a young and inexperienced team? It's the only calibre/experience of player we can afford unfortunately! It's clear we're going through one of these transitional phases, but personally I think that the guys who are there are potentially good enough. The team just need time to grow together, much as the previous teams have. It's just not going to be this year we return to the SPL...

If this is true it is absolutely ridiculous. If these people are so offended they have no place at a football match I'm afraid. I'm all for family sections and what not, anything to encourage kids and extra folk along, but if this nanny state culture is what the by-product is then the very essence of football supporting is changing too much for my liking. Political correctness really is the greatest scourge of modern society, Mary Whitehouse has a lot to answer for! Who complained? Is this a personal opinion of Mike Smith or has the SFA/SFL told ICT to clamp down? We're not exactly the loudest or most passionate set of supporters in the country anyway so can't imagine the crowd behaviour at TCS is an issue at Hampden for anyone.

Doubtful, unless one of them told Malpas to GTF at 8 this morning while another verbally abused a former managers wife...? Butcher wants them in for training, no words about not drinking! Yesterday was pretty dire by all accounts (work prevented me from going...) and Airdrie last week certainly was. Been a while since seen a decent performance though the reports from Motherwell were positive. 10am on a Sunday training? Won't be popular but will it get the message over? Who knows... Next Sunday becomes massive now though, anything less than 100% commitment and a victory is just not acceptable. Butcher has talked the talk and until now I've been prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. After his reactions to the last few bad performances and his major reaction to yesterdays, he's made the Gypo game his personal watershed match which, for me anyway, will pretty much confirm or deny if this squad and management have what it takes to perform at an acceptable level.

Definitely agree we need to get more physical/experienced in midfield. Get Duncan in with either Stratford or Cox. Both the young guys have ability and potential but they need a wee bit of guidance and experience beside them I feel. Eagles hasn't impressed me too much but I can see what Butcher is trying to do with him (same as Hayes, a pacey winger to give us an attacking option on either side). We have the makings of a decent side, certainly one strong enough to challenge for the title. Excellent goalkeeper, solid and experienced defence, decent attackers. Get the final piece (Duncan or McBain) of experience into the midfield and we're really gonna start moving forwards.

Wouldn't disagree too much with the smileys. Thought Stratford did a wee bit better than being given credit for, why we have Duncan and McBain and are not playing them I have no idea. A wee bit of experience in the midfield would have made a lot of difference today. I like Stratfords energy and coupled with Duncans ability in the holding position I feel that is a combination that could prove fruitful. Tactics... Where do you start?? TB starts with 2 wide men and every ball a hoof? Airdrie passed it around us at times. When we did play football we looked ok, dangerous even, then as soon as it broke down, HOOOOF, 6'5'' centre half heads it back... Surely there are enough footballers in our squad that we can use?? Get the ball down and make a pass, this long ball approach doesn't work, stretch the opposition with the pace of Hayes (who was excellent today). All that happens when its launched forward is it comes straight back and Foran starts getting more and more wound up and starts moaning and shouting at team mates!!

Very interesting to read these views... My own situation is probably very similar to many. Left Inverness 8 years ago to attend Uni, lived in Glasgow after Graduating and during pretty much my whole time there was adamant I would never return. However, the desire for a change of career direction necessitated the '1 step back to (hopefully) take 2 forward' approach and now I find myself back in 'The Sneck'. I won't stay here long term, the job I am doing I see very much as a way of getting experience in this field and then moving on to better pay and challenges elsewhere. I'd say 2, maybe 3 years at the very most before I move on again, although never say never is the motto I guess... The reasons I wouldn't stay are: - Very little nightlife and what nightlife exists is poor quality and aimed at the lowest common denominator. Understandable in such a small area with no student population. Completely archaic licensing laws do not help either. It is embarrassing to take friends from elsewhere out in Inverness with the 12 curfew... 3am opening is a slight improvement on the 1.30 close of a few years ago though... There is also a nasty atmosphere in a lot of Inverness bars/clubs during the busy nights, personally I would say I feel safer in Glasgow or Edinburgh than I do Inverness. - Loss of identity. The changes in Inverness are incredible in the last 10 years but this influx of people has, unfortunately, resulted in the identity of Inverness becoming totally diluted. Newcomers in itself is no bad thing, in fact I would argue it is a major positive, but the fact is it is essentially now 'Tesco Town' where everyone drives to spend their money in national chains and this has destroyed the local businesses and hence the individual character of the area. - The City/Town Council and their ridiculous ideas. Streetscape?? Come on! If ever there was an exercise in how to murder trade in an area this has been it. Incredibly short sighted and possibly the final nail for business in the centre as there is such little access (parking predominantly) for people now. - The lack of credible Tertiary Education. I'm afraid UHI (which didn't exist when I left) or Inverness College are not an option to most people with ambition. For the majority of Invernessian youngsters, the ONLY option when they leave school is to leave the city. The knock on effect for jobs of any real value is that they tend not to exist. IMO, if Inverness wants to be taken seriously as a City, a University has to be a priority. Preferably not this crazy e-learning/distance option either. A real University with a campus and a student community which would help to take the city to the next step both culturally and economically. Reasons to stay in Inverness: - Quality of life is excellent. Clean air and all the opportunities to enjoy outdoor activities you could want. - Excellent leisure facilities. Similar to quality of life point. The membership options at Inverness Leisure are outstanding value in compared to similar facilities across the country. The only real negative is the out-dated and frankly dangerous 'astroturf' surface. That really requires updating. - Low crime rates make Inverness an safe place to live and a major consideration if choosing to settle long term. In short, I feel very glad I grew up in Inverness, as opposed to Glasgow/Edinburgh etc. However, personally I do not see it as a long term option, mainly as I feel I have outgrown the place and a lot of my peers who elected to stay and have become entrenched in the small town mentality (and often with kids in tow before their 21st birthdays...) which is still far too prevalent in the area. A nice beginning but certainly not for life!

I thought i was a pretty awful game to watch myself... Neither team did much in the final third, the first half was ours and the second half definitely theirs. Not entertaining stuff at all, pretty hard work and as soon as Thistle equalised it was always going to penalties. Plus points - defence looked a lot stronger, certainly more confident. There wasn't the sharp intake of breath every time our left back got the ball! Golly looked solid and fit, touch wood that continues. Granty looked lot more comfortable yesterday too and Bulvitis continues to improve. If the 5 at the back (Esson, Tokely, Munro, Bulvitis, Golabek) stay injury free and settle then it looks promising for a good defensive season, lot of cool, experienced heads in there. Still not convinced by the midfield though, maybe it's a experience thing - Hayes, Stratford, Cox, Eagles are all pretty young and and without much first team time anywhere else. I'd like to see 4-3-3 and how that would work, Duncan or McBain coming in to add experience to the midfield with Stratford and Cox then Foran as a target man with Hayes and Eagles going up the sides and sitting on the opposition full backs. If the defence is solid we can afford the 'extra' attacker and probably makes us bit more difficult to play than most teams in this division who play a strict 4-4-2.

Probably on a par with Brown and miles better than Fraser who I really never rated. How he got a move to Motherwell I'll never know, although he seems to have been bombed out a bit there. That final save in the pens when it got to his left and pushed the shot onto the crossbar was awesome, absolute top drawer stuff! He certainly enjoyed it too!

I would go to 4-3-3, solid defence, an able midfield and the pace of Hayes and Eagles on both sides getting the ball into Foran to get in among defenders with the midfielders coming in to collect any follow ups. Tell the team not to be shot shy and the chances will be flowing. Esson Tokely Bulvitis Munro McBain Cox Duncan Stratford Hayes Foran Eagles Subs: Allison, Proctor, Ross, Sanchez, Rooney The pace of Hayes and Eagles is what Butcher has hung his hat on for the attack, these guys will play and I've been happy with what I've seen so far. Once they settle, they have the potential to rip this division apart and provide the ammunition for the striker.

As someone who has watched the team since our first ever game, today was the most horrible, nervous, anxious, disappointing and painful experience I've ever had watching ICT. I can't believe some of the posts on here tonight. The negativity is understandable but I thought the players gave EVERYTHING yesterday. An hour with 10 men and with even a dusting of luck we could have been safe. We started the game fantastically and could have been 2-0 up in 10 minutes! I'd have taken today's scenario and performance (if not the result...) in January, that's for sure. So, it wasn't to be and it's back to Division 1. Listening to Butcher after the game was hard, the guy was hurting and it was clear the players were too. Anyone who criticises the guys who went up the tunnel at the whistle need to have a word with themselves, why would you want to show your emotions in front of 6,500 people?! I don't know who will be in the team next season, that'll all become clear soon enough. What I do know is next season is now the most important in the history of the club. I believe that how we react to this will shape how the club will perform for the next 10, 15, 20 years. In Butcher and Malpas we have the leaders who are capable to building and making this club stronger. We'll be back and we'll be stronger for it. As for next season, lets enjoy the trips to the real football grounds, decent admission prices, Highland derbies (and 12 easy points!), seeing some of our young talent flourish and become senior players, and a decent cup run would be welcome to! Bring it on!

Never met MT myself but a good friend of mine played under him in the Rangers Youth set up and rated him as the worst coach he had ever had. Totally clueless, training would usually revolve around the same set of exercises and drills and an awful communicator. There was apparently an incident when Rangers kids played Aberdeen at Pittodrie and one of the Rangers players made a run at a throw in behind the defence to receive the throw. MT went crazy on the touch line, screaming at the player to get back on-side, before one of the parents in the crowd pointed out that you can't be offside at a throw in...

Even the match report on Radio Scotland pinpointed the 'malaise' and that we are lacking any sort of ideas. Go Now Brewster

I've not posted on here for a while as I hadn't been able to get to games for a good bit. I've seen us a few times this season (including today v St Mirren) now and it simply does not improve. 1) Tactically we are dull, predictable and completely empty of ideas. Our creative players are being stifled/aren't of the quality required. The strikers are one dimensional and the easiest for defenders to handle (what centre half doesn't relish a good battle with a big striker?? We have 4!) 2) We are nowhere near as fit as we were. Munro looks overweight, McGuire looked unfit today. Hastings got caught out of position and couldn't get back 3/4/5 times today. When players were out of position they were simply jogging back and the whole team looked like they only had one gear. The lack of pace in the squad is embarrassing. 3) Substitutions I simply don't understand. Black taken off today, for McBain?! Roy has been great over the years but Blackie can make things happen, McBain is cover at best now. Imrie off for MacAllister? Rory did ok but surely iy would have made sense to hook one of the strikers (either one, they are all carbon copies), get Sutherland on one side, Imrie on the other, Cowie supporting the striker with Black and Duncan protecting the defence. 4) No passion. This is completely unacceptable in my opinion... This was a must win game today and each player went through the motions. No one looked hugely motivated and that is the Managers fault. Brewster and his clown of an Assistant must go. Now. We are a team limited on ability but on todays showing we are lacking ability, fitness and motivation. A change of manager can change 2 of these factors and affect the 3rd. I'm sure this will have been covered a 100 times on here. However, as someone who has watched us home and away since day 1, I won't be spending my hard earned ?? and free time while this pair are in charge. Whether this makes me less of a fan in some peoples eyes doesn't matter as until the board act we will be like lambs being lead to the slaughter.

The Boswell Just a 10 minute stagger from Hampden!! Kid friendly too, beer garden... Hope to see some of you there anyway! Will see what I can do about a free first drink :023:

Where are people heading pre-match?? Just a bit of shameless advertising - I manage the Boswell, a mere 10 min stagger from Hampden! Anyone ICT fans making their way down are more than welcome in either of our bars, the restaurant and also the beer garden if you require some al fresco refreshment!

In fairness, how many of these 40+ appearances have been for more than 10/15 minutes?? Alright, at the moment he doesn't look great. But he's 20 ffs! Apart from the complete one offs like Rooney, Owen, etc. how many guys that age are setting top leagues on fire?? Did Rooney not have a completely shocking goals ratio at Man U? Look at the names of the guys who went to u-20 World Cup, a squad he narrowly missed out on, and tell me how many play as much as he has? He has been thrown in at the deep end and alright, hasn't set the world alight, but the potential is there and the constant sniping from the stands at a youth team player is unreal! Out on loan for 6 months/a season then see the difference with some confidence and belief. He's got it, just not yet.

Few of us heading to the Cell on KIlmarnock Road (just round from the Shed) pre match, anyone else going? Its free entry (definite bonus!) and they've got all the usual stuff going on, sounds like a good laugh.

The argument with the kids always seems a bit blunt to me... Caley surely suffer from the same problem that has faced amateur sport in the Highlands for a long time, in that the kids come up through the ranks but once they reach 18 they leave, be it for Uni or whatever. Obviously not everyone does this but I reckon the majority of my age group have and probably pursue the fortunes of the 'big' club they supported... Although as the last generation who will remember the Highland League days maybe we will be the last generation to have a 'big' team as well as an Inverness team? Here's hoping... What do the club do community wise for the kids anyway? Do we have youth coaches into school, free tickets, players running coaching clinics with secondary school teams, etc, etc? Genuinely wanbting to find out and not having a go!

Sprawled across the sofa with a black coffee as this game is being played at my equivalent of about 5am... Often wondered how I'd cope with big games back in Scotland when I emmigrate... guess I'm about to find out...