Council Juice

How about a good drum beat to the lyrics of Brewster OUT NOW! SACK BREWSTER!! come on get practicing lads!

Right i've woken up, the smell of coffee is startling! SACK that incompetent wally now!

Reading the bbc live text. Magregor spilled a shot, got away with it. Fraser does it and against those players it's enevitable your gonna get punished and he did. Apparently Miller was offside when he recieved Mendes's pass before assisting Boyd too. And thats Chick Young, closet hun (im only saying that cos it ryhmes, sort of) Very suprised Duff dropped, and replaced by someone with no match fitness against a team like Rangers, at Ibrox no less. Im not getting at Proctor but nice of Brewster to through him in the lions den like that. And given Duff was meant to have been decent against Falkirk and probably has more a physical presence, it's gonna do loads for his confidence that! I am beginning to come round to the calls for Brewsters head. Folly! :thumb04:

I think the best way for everyone to work is to sing songs that do not offend, too much at least. This way surely the stewards will let you make some noise. There is plenty of songs out there that would surely be deemed acceptable. Or even post song lyrics about, hand them out even. The idea of seeing the lyrics, even if known already, may give people confidence to join in. Be proactive in encouraging singing from elsewhere. Make it your goal, no wait, make it your mission Section G. With your efforts, the TICT Statium will be a wall of sound so great that something good will happen.

Deuchar is playing for Real Salt Lake in Utah not in Toronto. Yeah and i was just testing you... Nah realised that when i read the paper and there was a Deucher thingy in it. Anyways it snows in the state of Utah a fair bit at times, or at least has been known to in the past... i dont know what with global warming and all but i can imagine it still does. But even so, he wont be joining Caley. Seeing as Man City aint wanting fat Ronaldo, maybe we should offer him a contract. After all we have the perfect head coach to get him in shape.

Oh great he's a "bank official" (or a teller i guess.) but really, a bank official. Probably not the soundest most reputable job at the moment eh

Yeah any other manager would have said the same, if not more. Glad he did say something. He doesnt seem to get much right according to alot of people. You shouldnt be done for critising a desicion, maybe done for outright having a go at the ref but highlighting individual mistakes shows at the very least he was paying attention!

Not sure if this belongs in rumour mill or non ICT but I noticed with interest that Walter Smith has said that with Steven Smith being out for sooo long it may be hard for him to gain nessesscary match fitness at Rangers and that he will be looking at loaning him out. Ok it belongs in rumours now cos allegedly when Walter Smith was taking a siesta from the game he liked walking and found the hills in Inverness-shire particularly enjoyable. He then allegedly went to see a Caley match and was amazed at how great this club were. From then he knew the answer. I know it's not a priority position but hey it would be worth a shout at considering. Oh and Robbie Winters. Look at him Brew, see if he could do you a job.

Let me get this right, if he aint good enough for the current European champions, he aint good enough for a team who haven't qualified for a single tournament in over 10 years. Ok i can understand perfectly the reason not to pick him. I dont really want Nacho McNovo playing for Scotland as he's Spanish but that is utter folly. Raul wasnt good enough to get in the last Spain squad despite a good end to the season and being Spains all time top goal scorer but i'd deem him good enough even now. Just because they cant get into a top 5 teams squad does not make them not good enough for Scotland. Only Craig Gordon would come close to that in the current squad. I think this could be seen as discrimination of sorts as hinted by the Scottish minister for sports. If someone does become a resident of a country, they should not be treated as a 2nd class citizen and be looked apon equally for any job. In this case could it not be said that if a holder of a British passport then technically he should be seen in equal terms to any other uncapped resident with passport? If one was born abroad but to foreign parents but lived here their whole life then no one would bat an eyelid. His children are Scots born to one Scottish parent. Who says the bloodline must run backwards? I want Scots with Scottish accents playing for Scotland but with the likes of Commons, Morrison, Quashie in the team recently im seeing the arguement for him getting in. a ) he's lived in Scotland longer than the zero years all the other 3 have b ) he has more of a Scottish accent than all three c ) his children were born and live in Scotland as does his wife. Personally i'm wondering if it should be more of a case that if he is playing fairly regularly, well and is considered of the quality required and is deemed "commited" enough and is legally by the rules eligible then why shouldnt he be looked at as an option. Im stressing i'm not advocating it 100%. Just pondering the idea. Do the words tongue and cheek come into your vocabulary. So would it be right, in that case, for us to have gone for Gerrard, Beckham etc before England got them? British passport holders living in Britian. On the 1st question, sometimes tongue in cheek, or other forms of sarcasm can be lost across the medium of typed script On the 2nd, perhaps again a "tongue in cheek" question, I think with the very unique status Britain finds itself in with four seperate FA's operating under one nationalisation then I'm sure England has sole dibs on all English born as similar with the rest, with 1st refusal to English born with Scots grannies etc. I remember a couple of years back, when a was a nipper there was a Jamacian in the championship linked with a call up, Johnson perhaps his name was. I cant recall. He had never even played in Scotland but had a British passport and was considered eligible. In response to Stevico1, Most Portugese never seemed to air a major call of outrage, but Rui Costa wasn't best pleased. Probably as he was ageing and no longer at his best. And eh, there is no chance that Stevie Gerrard or David Beckham, are, ever have been, or ever will be good enough for Scotland!

Barrowman seems to have been played in dribs and drabs thus far. Has he had a real run of it. Wood seems to be playing alot but other than his goal against Celtic isn't showing he really merits a start week in week out. I can only presume Rory is finished at Caley as he's not really had a look in (unless he is injured or has been) That will proably suit most people if it turns out to be the case. I can see him being moved on in January. But we do need a 30 year old with a bit of experience to help the young lads out. Brew aint played compeditively in a year folks. He has probably lost a fair bit to his game and certainly wont be match sharp.

I would have thought Toronto would be cold at this time of year as well no? It's further North than New york, which gets hell loads of Snow at times and gets pure kelvin an dat at times, albeit further in land. But I cant see Dr Deucher doing a Beckham. 2ndly. I suggest Rabbie Winters. Loads of experience but i've no idea what his level is at now.

Yep good to see. All the best to him. I remember his goal against Clyde like it was yesterday.

Let me get this right, if he aint good enough for the current European champions, he aint good enough for a team who haven't qualified for a single tournament in over 10 years. Ok i can understand perfectly the reason not to pick him. I dont really want Nacho McNovo playing for Scotland as he's Spanish but that is utter folly. Raul wasnt good enough to get in the last Spain squad despite a good end to the season and being Spains all time top goal scorer but i'd deem him good enough even now. Just because they cant get into a top 5 teams squad does not make them not good enough for Scotland. Only Craig Gordon would come close to that in the current squad. I think this could be seen as discrimination of sorts as hinted by the Scottish minister for sports. If someone does become a resident of a country, they should not be treated as a 2nd class citizen and be looked apon equally for any job. In this case could it not be said that if a holder of a British passport then technically he should be seen in equal terms to any other uncapped resident with passport? If one was born abroad but to foreign parents but lived here their whole life then no one would bat an eyelid. His children are Scots born to one Scottish parent. Who says the bloodline must run backwards? I want Scots with Scottish accents playing for Scotland but with the likes of Commons, Morrison, Quashie in the team recently im seeing the arguement for him getting in. a ) he's lived in Scotland longer than the zero years all the other 3 have b ) he has more of a Scottish accent than all three c ) his children were born and live in Scotland as does his wife. Personally i'm wondering if it should be more of a case that if he is playing fairly regularly, well and is considered of the quality required and is deemed "commited" enough and is legally by the rules eligible then why shouldnt he be looked at as an option. Im stressing i'm not advocating it 100%. Just pondering the idea.

I dont think Arteta or Alumunia are better than anything England have, but with Novo, he is better than Miller in terms of scoring goals for example. I prefer the idea of winning with what you have or accept others are better but the thing is others dont. Portugal (deco) Italy (Cameronesi) France (half the team) Germany (host of nationalities) the Netherlands ( again alot from the dutch antilles and such like) Croatia (Eduardo) and Poland (olisedebe) are all teams probably considered by most to be better than Scotland and most of them are around Englands level and its not a level playing field. Should we not be allowed to consider levelling it up if allowed in the rules?

I've always thought that with Robbie Winters wanting to return to Scotland and his contract expiring next month (i believe) he could be a decent shout but no one else even seems even comment on it at all. He always played at teams like Dundee Utd or Aberdeen so he's used to playing up north and perhaps would like it. Has a good record in Scotland and did well initially in Norway (although i have no idea how he's doing now) which is of similar stature as a league. Worth a look at in my opinion.

Maybe he means we as in the players and I together as opposed to the club as a whole historically.

I cant decide. On one hand I only want Scots to play for Scotland. On the other,a ) the guy has played here for 8 years, pays taxes and has Scotttish born children b ) would add undoubted quality upfront c ) shows as much passion for his Club side as more than half the Scots do playing for their country at times! I look at the likes of James Morrison, Matt Elliot, Neil Sullivan and Don Hutchison to name a few Englishmen (the auld enemy) to have worn the Scotland shirt and while they may have had Scottish links would all probably have welcomed an English call up over Scotland and there was a few echos of disgruntlement but look at Don Hutchison, he scored against England. I then look at Germany, Poland and Croatia. Germany have Podolski, Borowskwi and Klose from Poland, Had Kuranyi from Brazil and Gerard Asamoah from Ghana. Poland had Emanuelle Olisidebe from Nigeria and Croatia Eduardo from Brazil (both who had passports sorted for them to play) And you have both France and the Netherlands with their colonial players Davids, Seedorf, Thuram and Viera. So if these countries have been doing it for years why not us. England brought in John Barnes, and Scots born McGeady plays for Ireland as he feels more Irish. Its not like even the home nations are still keeping with the only those born play tradition. Are we the last traditonalists in picking only those with the links? Should we be? I think, although not entirely sure, that if Novo was to show the required commitment to play for Scotland on the field. Show the same tenacious qualities he did at Dundee and does at Rangers then why not give him a chance. "To select an obvious non national would be both absurd and demeaning" - this came from Terry Butcher our Enlgish assisstant manager. Pot calling the kettle black perhaps. Celtic captain McManus sees no problem however saying that as a quality striker he would enhance the squad. any opinions

Why announce that you have inside info that someone told you in confidence if your not going to spill the beans. If one told you in confidence something and you wish to respect that then fine, just dont say i was told something but cant say as im respecting their confidence. JUst say nothing at all. Otherwise your really just being a sneak and going "I know something you don't know, haw haw, milk lemonade chocolate. Get it right up ya" Which is a touch playground mentality esq.

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So because Brewster focusses alot of attention on the fitness aspect of football using modern techniques (like Yogi at Falkirk) it makes him just a fitness coach and not a manager. This despite other managers saying he'd make a good manager. And because Malky Thompson was a youth coach he cant then progress to the 1st team despite having been coaching for around 10-12 years now? Park asked to leave for family and location reasons. Nothing official has ever been said different from either side. Whether they got on is irrelevant. Wyness wasnt performing. Brewster was going to give him a contract then decided to challenge him to earn it. He didnt. He hadnt scored in something like 4 months at the time. Hardly prolific. Black was an immature *** at times and probably got away with too much under CC. Brew brought him into line and he's probably playing as well as he ever has. Dont forget he became a 1st team regular under Brewster. His one mistake was Rankin. But we can all make mistakes. Im no Brewster super fan. I just look at the facts and fail to see how much he's done wrong. Maybe Brewster felt we needed more balance in the middle with Vigurs when taking Rooney off. I personally would have taken Wood off if either, but im not a coach. A managers tactics are genious if they come off, baffling if we lose.

I dont think its just a fact that money is tight, its that everyone is telling everyone it's tight too. Alot of peeps could still afford to do what they used to but dont want to know due to the banking crisis. But if i was stuck for cash and it was as it was on Saturday. I'd prefer to stay inside. Also people used to complain there was never any games on the telly, now theirs loads. People now like going to the pub for a drink and catch the game while their at it as it works out cheaper for the same 90 minutes and you get pints in with it along with warmth shelter and banter.

Harry Redknapp is a proper London Geezsa! a London gangsta character. The Govna' so to speak. He is the best small team manager going. Now he's at a fairly big club compared with Pompey who are growing, but much like ICT where our reputation has overgrown the size(if you get me). He is a bit shifty granted, and looks like the candle melted the waz on his face too. People hark on about loyalty but how many managers are sacked after a poor run, look at Ramos, look at Jol before him. It's complete double standards to think if people can demand a sacking after 8 games that a manager can't jump ship to somewhere where he thinks the grass looks greener. If you get head hunted, offered a better job with high prospects (potentially) then you have every right to go for it surely. Anyone would in any walk of life. The same goes for players. Despite their high wages and lofty position in society they cant just change job when they feel like it. Cant hand in their notice like most people and go elsewhere. When Football clubs were Clubs yes loyalty is a factor. Now their businesses and in business you go where the best prospects, in your eyes, are. On Martin Jol. He was ace and a top manager. And not just as he liked the pahnchakes yesh!

I've always thought that the whole idea of being a national coach was to make all the players confident before a game. You only ever see them for a week. The camp should have a feel good factor. Everyone should be buzzing. Especially teams like Scotland where its part of the culture. Watching Scotland under Smith and big Eck there was a passion I've yet to see under a Burley side. I really want Burley to be a success but he's done little to suggest he's taken a hungry confident side forward. And some of his call ups. Calum Davidson? David Clarkson? nah. As i said i want to wait and see. Its all we can do and i'll support any of the lads out there, but truth be told, i've never been as anxious about a game (v Holland) Im worried. We took on Brazil in 98, England in 96, Germany under Vogts (with Mo Ross in the side!) in Germany, Holland in the playoffs and i believed we could do something. Against France and Italy at Hampden I believed so the fact i was a naive youth for the earlier ones has nothing to do with it. The last time i predicted a negative result for Scotland i got the result correct and the scoreline 2-0 England at Hampden. Imagine the accusations of pessimism and anti Scots (for being realistic) I then predicted we'd win the 2nd leg but wouldnt go through. We won 1-0 at Wembley, a Christian Dailly diving header away from glory. Truth be told for the 1st time in 8 years (since Craig Browns last game) i fear a negative outcome. But lets wait see and hope.

Has Brewster really done that badly? given the situation he came into last season and our form then i reckon he's done ok. CC sat in a car with Bennet and told him he couldnt hack it anymore. End of. Nothing to do with Brewster. Dargo left last summer under CC as St Mirren with a bigger budget offered more money and a chance for central belt football. Parky left for family reasons. Wanted to work in Edinburgh. This was the reason HE gave. Again what has brewster to do with this? Brewster told Wyness to shape up or ship out. Personally, i think that took alot of cahonees given the players standing with the club. But looking back to be fair he was right. Wyness was not performing and hadn't been for a while. It took some tough love from Brewster there but why dish out contracts to those not doing the business? Could have perhaps been handled with more tact. Marius was always up for sale. This really had nothing to do with Brew either. I'm sure he wanted to keep Marius, Marius said he'd like to stay initially even after an alleged team dressing room fall out or whatever. He messed up with Rankin. Strachan messed up with Riordan, Smith with Gow. It happens. Would Brewster really be sacked if another club our size was not in the relegation zone, not adrift and had one of the better goal differences in the league? No of course not. Our aim every season is to initially avoid relegation then if posible push for that elusive 6th place. Half the teams in the 1st division are bigger clubs with bigger budgets and bigger fan bases. Some folks need to realise how well we are doing. We are currently avoiding relegation, have a good squad of players who from what i see have no problems with their manager. Why all the fuss? I like most never wanted Brewster back but he picked us up of the floor last season and we're indifferent now but to push the panic button and call for his head. I dont think thats the answer. Im not a Brewster fan but i dont see this as the point to call for his head. Get Real!

Of course Pompey fans are pee'd off. They've just lost a good manager. But their a small team compared to Tottenham and if Redknapp wants to manage in London again with a big club before he retires then fair play to him. He's probably taken Portsmouth further than most ever imagined possible and left behind a very good squad of players.