Council Juice

For that price i'd go if i wasnt working

You want to listen to Jim Traynor?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? The BBC highlights have perfected the knack of not telling the truth about a game at ALL!

I'd like to see a good wee winger with a good cross on him and a turn of pace. A quick striker would be nice. And a big strong bully of a centre half. 2 signings and i think we'd be fine. I'd settle for a centre back and see how its looking in January. Its time the kids in the squad took the step up and show what they can do. Im baffled how we never go for loans (apart from Rooney which turned permanent) Falkirk seem to pull of masterstrokes all the darn time. Tim Krul, Schmeichel, Stokes, guy from Sunderland in midfield, Surely we can get someone from the championship or Premiership needing experience and having a touch of class about them.

The prices in the SPL for some of the provincial teams is somewhat spectacularly high. And make no jokes, we are a smaller team based on infrastructure and fan base. I also think perhaps its to do with the fact when we were in the SFL i cared less about spending money on the game as win lose or draw it would usually be a fun day out. Maybe it's to do with the fact every club has a chance at that level (other than County obviously) but THAT doesnt stop me going to games as i enjoy being in the SPL as its the top tier. But at any SPL game i've ever been at I tend to feel intimidated to some extent, or certainly did when i was younger. The Stewards dont help. It does seem they'll pick the smaller fan base to carry out their actions on or the smaller folk like the kids who are there to enjoy themselves . I can deal with them facists though. I can accept their cowardness with soap dodgers and their chibs thus needing the better folk to vent their frustrations apon. ALthough I'll never agree with insisting on no standing. German clubs manage standing areas perfectly well.. or why not have standing areas with a seat per man. Standing is not dangerous if managed properly and sensibly. Go to any gig and you'll generally come out alive even in a big crowd with stage surges, pits, crowd surfing etc. That doesnt go on at games. Ways of getting more fans in is: under 8s free and under 15s for a low price like a fiver or if you bring a mate he goes half price(under 15s) get students in cheaper too (im not one anymore so not an alteria motive) as they probably dont have much to spend their cash on so getting them to a game instead of lazying in bed on a saturday afternoon watching Hollyoaks reruns would be more benificial to society as a whole. bring back booze at games. Everyone one who wants to drink proves age at turnstile and gets a token book with limited tokens to use. That way the club can restrict drink and drunkards and not have riots but also bring back the fun element. A brick and mortar shop or even a better thing that we have, would benefit the staff with a better place to work and allow for a larger range perhaps? The car park shouldnt really be an issue for people attending games. It i can imagine be frustrating but if it was me i wouldnt use it if it wasnt working, definitely not pay for it. And talking to the fans and taking points on board and if finances arent there to pay for new shops, better parking etc then telling them and fund raisers can be organised. The type of fund raisers that unite the club and fans.. and hey get some players in on it too!

I could not make the game on Sat but am disappointed to hear that this happened yet again, seems to happen just about everytime we play against you and Deano is on the park. I know its only a minority and I am sure most Caley fans are of the same opinion as yourself, but the minority really need to learn to shut up about this as it puts them in a very bad light indeed. Its unfortunate Dean did not get to have the last laugh with his missed chance near the end. Everyone kinda knows it was his own fault he's got one eye. Doesnt stop him playing though. Stick like that usually spurs a player on anyway. So it really would shut some people up if he did score against us and said came out and said "Im suprised as I it (the ball) late." Players will get stick for all sorts. Far worse that he gets. It aint right and i am not excusing it but im sure he's big enough to take it. As for Wyness he shouldnt get boo'ed as i dont think he would celebrate if he scored against us as the club means alot to him... If he did mind he should be shot dead!

A more than ideal situation for some. Maybe not great for families

He never had a problem with the fans from what i know. We never had a problem with us. Why would there need be anamosity? He was forced out so if he cuts the mustard and scores against us (obviously he didnt yesterday but in the future), well thats part and parcel of football.

I think in terms of off the field development Falkirk and St Mirren and even Hamilton are starting to overtake us. Id have bought a season ticket in the summer if i wasnt so skint then and now. At the moment i have to make do with picking and choosing games and grabbing mates to watch games in the capital. Going week in week out is simply far too much for me. I might look at seeing if theirs any ticket packages in the new year but the cost of travel and games is way too high for regular attendance. If i wanted to i could but it would mean not going out at the weekend. And too be honest if i had the choice of travelling 100+ miles up the road and the same down again every week or going out with friends for a drink and having a good time dancing and socialising to the sounds of modern times and time of bygone eras and then playing football the next day with a stinking hangover and a rotten gut with the lads i'd choose the latter. Some people may not like that approach. Call me a part timer, arm chair fan, non die hard. Probably a correct assumption. And thats fine. Some people spend alot of their hard earned cash watching their team and dont always get much back for it. Too be honest though i'd rather be out with mates than going to games on my lonesome everyweek if i had to choose. And i have to choose. I have muchos muchos respect for the people who watch their team on a cold wet winters wednesday night and coming away after a 0-0 draw. Its not for me though. In saying all this i will go to more games this season than i have seasons past (in the SPL) and get behind the team.

Sounds promising. As he's young yet in time he could build himself up to cope with the demands of the SPL. Novo aint tall or big built but he worked on his upper body strength and if you compare him not to his 1st season at Dundee he's alot stronger. As long as he can run by his man to get the cross in and he actually can cross then i say get him in.

I'd say thats the mistake part of this topic put to bed now with another assured performance yesterday v two good strikers. When others lost their way he stood up and reacted well after losing the goal. Thats two sponsors MOM awards now. And he even got in the SundayMail team of the week.(yes i know, but i was drunk when i bought the paper, sorry) Good to see he got over the mistake quickly as most expected he would. M4TJ - I am in agreement with you but i have a tendancy to stick up for younger players because its encouragment early on that can make the player. So I back them to the hilt. He could have scored an OG after rounding Fraser to rattle the ball home and I'd stick up for him. And Id find an excuse! One of the lads in the youth team the year before last rated him and Vigurs as the stars. In saying all that I still think Maguires eror to let Corcoran in was far worse and we got lucky there. It would have been highlighted had there been a goal. Duff and Munro should be 1st choice. Maguire is too inconsistent and error prone and i think that does not breed confidence.

fitness is a key part. McBain my not be the most gifted but his stamina and work rate are top class which really helps the team out. Surely every team needs experience and he offers that. We'll soon have no one over 30 if he goes anywhere.

Signing Bobby Mann shouldnt even be a thought. It shouldn't be fathomed. It would be an embarrassing step down. Top 1st division centre half in his day and thats it. No where near mobile enough for the SPL. He's a mid range 2nd div player now who coasted through... a testamonial. Dont get me wrong. Thought he was a star when we had him but not now. I'd take dods back. Although he's hardly mobile himself he has height and presence and is fit enough for the top tier. Also a goal threat at set pieces. Sol Bamba is another i'd take. He does tend to be rash and inconsistent and take his eye of the ball but he has the ability and at 23 is young for a centre half. We only have 3 recognised centre halves. Albeit in a crisis Proctor and Hastings and at a push Tokely can play there. The 3 we really have are Munro- 1st choice centre half. Maguire- less said the better and Duff - promising youth with virtually no experience. Lionel is an out and out left back it would seem. Some full backs are just not meant to be central defenders and he's one of them. So Dods or Bamba as we need a 4th central defender. Maybe offer Maguire as part of the deal for Bamba and get both eh?

Do I think Duff was at fault, yes I do also Do I blame him, Yes Partly Should he play again, yes clearly but I still don't blame him fully for the goal. If a player makes an error half way up the park at the touch line there shouldnt be a gaping hole behind him. Brewster himself thinks this. It was a basic error and probably uncharacteristic and hopefully he'll get over it and get a game next week, even if Munro is fit. drop Maguire. He would have cost us a goal if Corcoran had connected better with his shot

For a start I may only be 16 but i have had a season ticket since 2000 I go to every home and away game every season including cup games I was in Denmark watching the pre-season and i was at 5 pre-season games in scotland and then went to the burnely game I do buy the top every season along with a programme at every game spend for too much on inverness each year to be honest does that make me a fan or an arm chair fan? you sound like an out and out arm chair fan! a disgrace! not welcome! :018: Very commited lad.... now go on and get out and have a life beyond ICT. There is so much out there!!! :thumb04:

Offiong was still allowed to run 40 yards without a challenge. Cover should always be available that high up the pitch. Im all in favour of full backs getting forward but you should be able to get back to cover your position. Not saying its Roos Tokely's fault, Duff did make the error and fresh air a simple ball he should have played out nice and easy, but a player should not be allowed to run from just beyond the half way line and on the touch line to the opposition penalty area virtually unchallenged. Brewster seemed to be annoyed about that as much as anything.

Lets just remember we beat Liverpool 5-0 in a friendly last night and not who they had playing

Well maybe the underprivelidged kids will have to do without until the club comes up with a viable solution. Not great, but if your supplying a service to customers with which you charge you should look to offer a half decent service and not lock gates unnessesarily. I wouldnt pay for something that doesn't work and look for another solution. I've always said I would buy a Big Issue if it was actually a decent read. My Mum does buy it for the sake of buying it and it just seems to harp on about homeless folk - really depressing read. I'll stick to Nuts and Zoo!

Could they not be made smaller or lower or something, you know flatten them out. You know a wider based triangle shape if you get me. It seems perfectly logical to somehow adjust their size and/or positioning without changing sponsorship agreement. Also on another note, we should encourage players (particularly during warm ups) and ball boys to randomly hit stewards in the back of the head. This would be particularly good during dull games and as half time entertainment.

If Munro is out I'd probably take a 2-2. If not 1-0 Caley!

from reading the Barry Wilson thread he looked decent and quick, but the Liverpool players realised this and tried the odd shirt tug etc to slow him down. However he kept plugging away for his short appearance. It has been noted that Brewster supposedly said he looked a little small and slight for the Scottish game (but hey look at SWP at Chelsea in the Premiership) but looked technically good. And that it would be seen how he would do in training. Other than that we'll probably find out at the end of the week.

So we're all in agreement. Duff did make an error but played well enough during the game and after the error to show he is certainly capable. However Richard Offiong was allowed to run a further 40 yards to goal with no real challenge and slot the ball home. Comments from Phil Maguire in Sunsport suggest that Brewster was more annoyed this was allowed to happen and that there was no cover behind Duff. Presumably Duff wouldnt have been in that position if Tokely wasnt a little further upfield. I do however disagree with the newspapers assesment he was our best player. None of the players performed however Maguire headed Corcoran through on goal and he's always prone to doing similar. You should never head backwards unless you KNOW your keeper is going to get it or there is someone in space to pick it up. Duff WILL NOT develop as a good centre half if he plays alongside maguire too much. Im sure most agree Munro came on leaps and bounds parntering Dods for 2 seasons and I feel the same could happen for Duff with Munro. He certainly wouldnt be allowed to make many mistakes with Ross and Grant beside him as im sure he'd get a healthy ear bashing.

Fraser Proctor Tokely Munro(Duff) Hastings(Jibby Jabby) Duncan Cowie Black McBain Imrie Rooney Esson Vigurs Duff(Maguire) Gillespie Wilson Z Sutherland Barrowman MacAllister I'd like to try Tokely alongside Duff in the centre, basically as he is the only one in the team with the height and presence to combat Nish and he's not especially slow either, especially for what a centre back would be. And i dont trust Maguire despite his nice words of encouragement in the SUN about Duff and that Offiong should NOT have been allowed to run 40 yards and score after his error. Maguire was incidentally our best player on Saturday according to the SUN with a 7 rating. With my formation Imrie can run all over and get to wings or support striker. When attacking Cowie can push out wide and tuck in or cover full back when defending as can McBain. Duncan covers the defence and Black marshalls the middle. Rooney is a big strong forward who can bring others into play as a lone centre forward and combat centre halves. Proctor will be back and is a good full back and gets forward well and when appropriate. Give me Brewsters job, I AM the master!

Thought he may come in for McBain in the future. Although McBain is still very fit and i dont think he'll be needing to stop playing any time soon.

Depressingly but probably predictably Brewster was on the radio this morning saying that he thinks the guy is a good footballer but is probably too small for Scottish football!! He will be monitored in training. Dont know if he would need SFA clearance to play in a testamonial. Could be on a holiday visa and playing a game of footie in the park for an old man on his testamonial is hardly breaking visa regulations. Had he been in employment then yes. Im sure he would need some sort of clearance from the SFA to be on trial in training anyway and that would cover it. Also i hate the idea that if he is small he aint suitable. Get him to bulk up a bit and he'll be fine. Nothing I hate more than nippy wee players and Im 6'4. As long as they dont **** themselves any time someone comes near they can do what Shaun Wright Phillips does in the premiership - ie be a midget and still have avery good impact in the game. Hope Bazza had a good game and enjoyed himself last night. Thankyou for the service you've given and hopefully one more season of silk is on the way

It is good for a change that most are willing to let his mistake go and obviously it's going to be inevitably talked about for reasons said. I just hope he lives up to his promise. After all the reserves were succesful last year and he would have been part of that. Zibi is a different kettle of fish. His past reputation at Hibs had shown that he was prone to error. Making a mistake straight away against Aberdeen, of all teams, was the worst possible thing he could do. Unless he had given a masterclass and dispelled the idea that he was guff and a liability he was never going to change this impression no matter how well he had done in the reserves. Perhaps if he hadnt made any errors it could be put down to the fact Gordon Marshall is Hibs goalkeeping coach and that it must be noted all their keepers are prone now to handling errors. Was he not also? Actually no wait, he was just gash!