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My thoughts are yes we have a massive problem. I understood when SG came in one of his major aims was to bring in investors? Others appear to have managed this such as Dunfermline. However I get they would have to be a good fit and the last thing we need is a mad owner/large shareholder. Personally I've never known us be so top heavy as a club with so many management posts which I assume don't come cheap? Have we lost our way? Yes? Will it be sorted soon? I doubt it. When things are good on the field we tend to put up with anything as a support? This is a club that can't even sell us a decent cup of coffee on a matchday these days. I agree with poster above that BD won't go anywhere for now. He obviously knows it as well, going by his 'chipper' press this weekend. I also agree that if he went we would just end up with more of the same so no I don't have an answer sadly...7 points
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Certain ex-posters on here didn't ever really get the concept of "football fan" Nearly everybody on here is a fan who would contribute more if they could afford it. From anyone who goes to half a dozen games a year, to ST holders, to pitchside boards, to match sponsors and exec boxes, to buying a seat on the board. I've never lived in Inverness, just visited regularly for family reasons since the 70s. My perception from outside is that obviously there are far fewer big-money players than exist in Edinburgh or Dundee or wherever, but the handful who do exist, suffer from massive egos that prevent them cooperating with each other for the sake of the club. [insert tin hat emoji]4 points
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On one hand its progressive that a club our size has a DoF, especially given our position, while on the other and given the questionable recruitment is it nepotism keeping a pal in a job with a regular paycheck or our inability to pay off any remaining contract giving us no choice? With JR still at the club the idea of paying an additional managerial salary clearly hasnt worked, although back to previous point is there some nepotism at play here too? My understanding (perhaps wrong as not in the game) is that the DoF handles all matters not football (recruitment, contracts, staffing etc) but related to the end product? In that case are we really seeing anything more with the addition of BD than we would with SK or PS if one of those had stepped up? Some of the names on here are mental and genuinely if we got rid of BD my worry with the current regime is we will get more of the same - some ex-Dundee, Hearts, Rangers man (from the late 90s era) who's out of work with limited success coaching in the game and either looking to rebuild or get back into management. Step forward - Allan Johnstone, Gary Locke, Barry Smith, Neil McCann (again).......feel free to add to the list yourself to become more depressed at the thought!!!3 points
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You may be using the wrong word when you say "investor". Certainly if you mean investing to obtain a financial return. Owning - or putting money into - a football club is one of the quickest and more surefire ways of losing money that exists. Given that we are just emerging from a global pandemic which has hit many businesses hard, and are also coming to terms with the problems of Brexit, which are especially hitting those who exported to the EU, then the number of "wealthy investors" who would currently be interested in losing shedloads of money must be very small. And they have probably just had their assets frozen by the government Geography comes into it, too, as has been discussed here before. Inverness is over 100 miles away from the next nearest large towns, more than that from the Central Belt, and may as well be on the moon as far as many English are concerned. So you are basically looking for a local wealthy businessperson who is happy to lose a lot of money, just for the kudos. They do exist, of course - we just have to look to Dingwall - but there can't be many of them. Those of you who live in the area could probably name those who might have the resources. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see someone pump money into the club, provided they also hired decent management and coaches. But, at this particular time, I can't see where they are coming from.2 points
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What I have never understood, and maybe someone can tell me, is that for all the clubs that are taken over or have money put into them throughout Scotland, why not ICT? What is putting off any wealthy investors investing into a club that is the capital of the Highlands, has a great history for such a young club, who, only a couple of years ago won the Scottish Cup and played on the European stage? Why did we not kick on and strengthen after our Scottish Cup success? Instead, we have gone backwards, and at quite an alarming rate, in performances, in players and ultimately any improvement in the whole club. I'm sure, or hope that those in the higher echelons of the club must have asked themselves this question, but we the supporters will be the last to know. If, down the line, we change managers, we must change the coaches as well, a new direction, new ideas and new methods are needed desperately.2 points
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A bit if light hearted relief is needed I feel. Spotted this on Twitter earlier: Who would make your Caley Thistle Masters team? I went for: GK - Brill, Mann, McBain, Bingham, Wilson, Wyness.1 point
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If only real life were that simple. Its not a matter of (solely) having the guts to sack anyone. You need money too. There is such a thing as employment law and when dealing with fixed term contracts, the reality is that we basically have to negotiate if we want to pay someone off to end their contract. That's where 'mutual termination' is spouted, it means we negotiated and came to a deal. If no deal can be reached, then we might have to buy out that contract (put them on gardening leave or give them a cheque and send them on their way) but unless there is some form of gross misconduct, and however offensive we find it, losing a football match is not in that category, we cant just sack them without cost or consequence. As for the 'money excuse' ... what excuse? We haven't got a pot to p*** in. Necessary cost or not, if you don't have it, then you cant spend it ... ask Gretna or other teams who went to the wall how 'necessary' some of their financial transactions seem now. We've been out of the Premiership too long to get decent money from the SPFL, we are on hopefully the backend of a pandemic that has seen far more lucrative businesses than football clubs go to the wall, and we traditionally make a loss each year if we don't have some form of windfall from TV, Cup runs or something else. Keeping us afloat is somewhat of an achievement in that respect. I do agree that any replacement does not need to be expensive ... but who? and how do you define expensive if you dont have any budget for replacing staff? Don't forget that any manager we put in place, per UEFA club rules, needs their badges if they want to coach at highest levels or be in the progress of obtaining them within the next 6 months if we get back to Premiership so that in itself means they will want decent compensation for their role. We cant just hop down the Bught and offer the job to someone from the Amateur leagues ... so again, talk of money is not 'pish', its realism! We have had mixed success with inexperienced managers - Brewster being good first time round, but terrible second time and Foran who we all wanted to do really well unfortunately being a disappointment. Dougie Imrie seems to have started well, a bit like his terrier like rise through the leagues as a player, perhaps we need someone like that or with that type of personality and drive. I like the idea of someone like Rosscoe if he is up for it and if he has done his badges, but not sure if he has those or if he has done any coaching ... big difference in talking about the game for the media and doing it for real as a manager ... as we have discovered! Would not want him if he has not worked his way through those as I would hate for him to tarnish his legacy as a club legend. Would also love Charlie to take another shot at it, but thats not going to happen. He hated the goldfish bowl last time around and seems happier behind the scenes. - Do I like our results? NO. - Do I think that BD should remain? I am rapidly approaching the NO camp. - Do I think he should take others in the backroom with him? YES if they cannot do the job. - Should the CEO go? Not sure. We do seem to be top heavy in 'execs' but given he has overseen us through the financial and COVID storms for now, then perhaps he is not doing as bad a job as some think? I really don't know. Pixellot seems to have been his biggest mistake so far but that was rectified by finally listening about resources we already had that were miles better. The single biggest thing he, and the club, can do now, and must do now is to communicate. They have been terrible at that for a long time now, and its not a good time to be silent!1 point
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The news that the club formerly Thistle Girls will be folded into ICT is great news particularly given the background to the situation. If ICT properly support this (and I've no reason to suggest they won't) then it's brilliant news for both ICT and girl's football in the city.1 point
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A welcome development by the club: https://ictfc.com/club-statement-thistle-girls-fc-officially-become-part-of-inverness-caledonian-thistle-wfc Now we’d all welcome a statement from the CEO about the situation with the club as a whole and the first team performance in particular.1 point
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Once we find someone to pay for the removal of the coaching team, I think tommy Wright might be a bit pricey.1 point
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The state we are in, the amount of ***** building up in our squad - we need someone who has managed with a degree of success. We have some decent players who need managing, and we have dross who need clearing out.1 point
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Does Tommy Wright fit the bill regarding the bit I've bolded? James McPake also an option but outside these 2 there is nobody which is a worry.0 points
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In reply to the first question of the title, I'd say no, a big clear out is not required, here is my take on the situation. Ross Morrison and Scot Gardiner have done nothing wrong to warrant all this criticism, apart from the fact that they are not communicating with us the fans. Other than that, they go about their business quietly and also don't overspend which is one thing I like about us as a club. John Robertson is one I would say needs to go because he isn't needed imho plus he must want to get back into management now that he is over his personal issues of last season. Besides we haven't had a DoF since Craig Brewster Mark 2, the responsibilities in that job should be split between RM and SG and in terms of identifying signings, that's the managers job, though I prefer the trial games that we have had in the past. BD: I have made my thoughts clear on him and very loudly on FB and twitter etc but it is clear he has to go so SG and RM are failing us by not listening to us regarding his position, we can't afford to keep him until the end of the season, especially if we are going to get into the play offs! Also, his dealings in the transfer market is nothing short of appalling, why the hell sign so many attacking players that aren't needed when it was clear that it was the defence that needed strengthening. His after match interviews usually anger fans too as he comes out with utter drivel which is an insult to us, especially the one on Saturday where he says that a run is close, yet the fans know that one is slipping further away! SK and BW would then need to go imho as it would be unfair on a new manager to have to have them as assistant and first team manager, however, I don't believe either have done anything wrong to warrant being replaced, especially Scott who is just back from illness earlier this season. I do also agree with one poster (I think on the next manager thread) though when they say that certain players need to take a portion of the blame for this run of form, I would say a clear out is needed in the summer if that is at all needed. I have advocated for a long time now that the youngsters deserve a shot because they are certainly capable otherwise they wouldn't be in a semi on Friday night!-1 points
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