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Probably as I have just lost interest to an extent. Partly down to me as the product / entertainment on offer is poor. Partly down to not liking the way the club is run. To summarise, ICT is not as appealing to me anymore for various reasons.

Unless Cameron, Morrions et al can defy physics then obviously it will consume space. The issue is their choice of space. We are supposed to believe that one of the biggest land owners in the area couldn't find a viable brown field site, or, a site that is already marked for development in the IMFDP. As you say, the planners were just following their protocols about this area being protected green space. Remind us where the club, or the trust, or whoever it is that really benefits from this project, transparantly and publicly unveiled all this socio-economic data to make their case? Some greenwashing strap lines and a few puff peices about free meals for kids that the trust already provides is no where near good enough IMHO. I am amazed folk are so trusting of this mob.

Hi CT. might as well go off on a tangent here. Don't you think GT has had the most naturally talented back line a Scottish manager has ever had, and yet achieved nothing. Surely therefore it highlights poor coaching. The Scottish forwards woeful attempts at powering over from a yard has been their downfall for years and years. Their lack of guile and craft is shown up every match. Its all in the coaching. Whether it's the head coach, or the forwards coach, or the attacking coach, or all of them. So, to conclude on a Caley Thistle note, maybe Scott Kellacher is actually our problem, he has always been there.

Doran was definitely sacrificed to shore up defence. Yeh 2nd half subs always seem to cause issues. Not sure why it was Carragher that was subbed either as was showing leadership at the back imo

If the question is 'Could the club have been reasonably expected to have done more?', then for me the answer yes. I was highlighting the fact that there was an option for the club to have the decision makers look over their submission ahead of time. This would have allowed them to deal with some of the concerns/objections raised in a more timely fashion and might have even avoided the situation that has now arisen. From my following of what's happened, nobody with the planning dept has objected to anything (it's not their place to do so). What they have done is highlighted areas where the proposal does not meet planning requirements. You'll also get no argument from me that the last planning meeting was a shambles. Having realised that only 5 of the planning committee were eligible to vote the chair should have not allowed it and immediately referred it to full council for a decision. By allowing it and then asking for it to be referred, especially given how he voted, the chair has opened himself and his peers up to accusations of foul play. People keep saying that all concerns and objections were met, but that is also not the case. The loss of protected green land was not satisfactorily addressed, which is why it was still recommended for rejection. There were also still a number of conditions to be attached to address remaining concerns on other aspects and it's not certain all of these can/will be met. Even of it is accepted at full council, there's no guarantee the club gets a pay day. Conveniently they will have created enough of a shitstorm to then blame it on delays and everyone else messing them around. As I said at the start of this post, they refused an option which could easily have expedited things.

With calls for Dunc to go already in some corners of our support, it's maybe worth revisiting what expectations were on arrival. Concensus was 4th to 8th with us currently 8th and only 4 points off 5th is this not what was expected as being optimistic?

They didn't really though. They submitted a shoddy application to begin with and didn't address all the points of concern (loss of green space) when handing in the extra info. That said, it's still a bizarre situation and Highland Council still come across as pretty inept.

They're usually dumbstruck!!

I think he was brought in because the board were starstruck!

Loans in general are good, and if you get the right areas filled with the right qualities then everybody's happy. Not finding a suitable replacement of wotherspoons class is the glaring deficiency.

Joke thread . . . . surely?

Pros - we can afford them and they are willing to come and play Cons - we can't afford anyone better or risk longterm contracts because if we are relegated to the seaside leagues it'll bankrupt us

The inevitable Ferguson witch-hunt gathers pace. This forum must be a leader in the propensity of whingers and armchair manager assassins. Has Ferguson been afforded any cash to splash or is he part of the cull to save money ? Have we ever seen such changes mid season and who is at fault there ? Do you think that Ferguson made that decision on his own or perhaps maybe the decisions were made for him ? Is Ferguson being set up as the Messiah or the fall guy - and who would do that ? Fraid the off field element of our club has become a real self preservation society - and finally (The Rock has come back to Inverness) did anyone actually think that we would beat Hibs

Fans were happy to defend dodds during utterly horrific runs of results yet seem to want the new guy out after a few months when trying to sort out our **** show that was left Perhaps the fact he inherited a squad with only a 34 year old striker and zero creative players which was leaking goals might be worth considering. The point he has seen all these issues and with our limited budget managed to bring in during what is seen as a difficult transfer window some options, more time is needed to see if it works. All those wild shouts for imrie need to consider we can't afford compensation and ultimately that Morton squad exceeds our quality levels so why would he have chosen to leave a club he has turned around to walk into a (smaller club) with a worse financial mess?

Oh for goodness sake. Not so long ago Morton were awful and Dougie Imrie has turned it around. Give Duncan a chance. He’s only just brought 8n his own players. Well done Aaron Doran today. Maybe he should get more game time, after all its goals we need.

Fickle

The club and ILI are / were clearly working very much 'hand in glove' on this so I'd be staggered if they didn't have some kind of input into the selection of the planning consultants behind the application. Whilst the application was approved it was, again, recommended for refusal because all of the concerns flagged by the planning department hadn't been addressed. FWIW I hope it is approved as the club desperately needs the money but this could have gone a lot better.

Still to see Anderson do anything of value in an ICT shirt. MacGregor in for him now he's banned hopefully.

Looking at Morton's recent run of results I'm kinda wishing that Imrie had got the job instead of Ferguson?

Always said we missed a trick by not, at least, approaching him.

Both would be better than what we have just now! Dunc is clueless and the last transfer window was a disaster! We haven’t replaced the players we’ve lost with anyone half as good and the character has been stripped from the team. it’s ok though I’m sure the battery farm will keep some folk happy. league 1 here we come

It wouldn’t. The fact that the site is on green land means that the planning department's advice would have been that the project is incapable of meeting their requirements for recommending approval - unless you know of a way to build a battery farm without taking up any space! I’m pretty sure the club knew all along that this would be the biggest challenge and the only way to overcome it would be to stress the wider benefits to the community and to the environment that would result from it going ahead, which is what they did.