DoofersDad

Don't worry about it. I am reliably informed that IHE will be joining Butcher at Easter Road as analyst and advisor. Clearly Butcher will benefit from his sage words of wisdom, whilst for IHE it will mean not having to travel so far for home matches whilst Leith offers a night time social life more in keeping with his tastes than Inverness. It will suit us as well as the number of posts on this forum with the word "narcisist", or variations of it, will be reduced by at least 99%.

There's no doubt he's done a good job here, but equally his behaviour this last week has not been good. To be fair, there is clearly a lot we don't know about his reasons for wanting to go to Hibs and his feelings toward ICT and the Inverness area. He may well feel torn and he may well feel hurt by the hostile reaction he has received from the Inverness fans. What he needs to understand is that the reason for the fans reaction is that they wanted him to stay and are very disappointed at the manner of his likely departure. Should the deal fall through then he still has a contract here. For me he would have 2 options. Firstly, if he wants to go then he should resign. How can the players have any trust in him if it is clear he wants away? Secondly, if he wants to stay, then he should put pen to paper and sign a new contract, apologise unreservedly for his conduct this week and pledge real commitment to the club. I have been critical of him these last few days but were the deal to fall through then I for one would welcome him back provided he gave a strong and sincere commitment. The management team he has built around him works for this club and there is unfinished business. It would actually be good to put this all behind us and get on with that business. We may not be a big glamorous club but Butcher is lucky to have us. If he could just accept that then we could all kiss and make up, so to speak, and he could go on and achieve things he can be justly proud of. I think he's behaved very poorly this week but I for one would be prepared to forgive.

Rowan Vine is a decent player ..give him a decent manager ..Im not knocking any Inverness player which, Im surprised at your bitterness towards hibs though ..Ive been to Inverness many times & have had nothing but 100 % the best hospitality ..on this site though there seems to be a hell of a lot of hostility towards hibs ..why is that ..? Hostility towards Hibs? Don't think so. We're just enjoying our current superiority over you (and others) despite our very much smaller budget. If you want hostility then look no further than your own website and comments about your dear neighbours from the other side of the City.

It'll need to be somewhere special - it doesn't look as though it will something that will happen very often.

Me too. In fact I thought it was Butcher himself.

...and still nothing official. Should reach 4 figures!

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As I write this, Butcher is probably sitting in some poncy Edinburgh wine bar with Petrie picking over the bones of a dismal defeat. What he should be doing is celebrating a great victory with a great bunch of lads by picking the bones out of a fish supper.

I would have thought that either at the point that the Board gave permision for Butcher to talk with Hibs or when Butcher and Hibs agreed terms and informed our Board, the Board would effectively have put Butcher's contract on hold. At that point he is not doing the job he is contracted to do and therefore should not be paid. If that was the case then it would be reasonable for him to state that he is a neutral for the game. But what I find distasteful is the fact that he was at the ground with the Hibs Board and yet still there is no announcement. The very fact that he was there in those circumstances was a clear statement of what the position is, so why not just make a verbal statement? All that needed to be said is that personal terms have been agreed and that a further statement will be made following discussion between the clubs regarding compensation. If he didn't want to say that, he should simply have stayed away. Inverness fans and the Board have been very supportive to Butcher over the years but his antics this week show him in a very bad light. He's a big boy at a big club now so he thinks he can treat those at the little club who have been supportive of him with disdain. Complete lack of class.

An £897million deal! And yet they cant afford to upgrade our local phone line to allow us to get broadband via the land line - despite all the public money they get to do just that.

Fixed it for you!

Don't expect a statement until we've beaten the number of posts on the Barnsley thread. Still another 120 to go.

I demand a statement as to why there is no statement

There is a real sense of irony / déjà vue ?!! What's the tune to that, IHE?

CaleyD, are you still sure he's staying? You're awfully quiet.

I've just read the report on the BBC website and got the same sort of impression as Dargo20. If Malpas and Marsala like working for ICT then why would they leave just because Butcher would like them to? As a management team they have achieved a lot here and are appreciated by the club and the fans. They also have the real chance of winning something big this year. But despite the excitement of what this season could bring, I think both club and fans are realistic enough to know that at the moment the team is punching well above it's weight and as long as we stay in the premier division there is no chance of their being dismissed by the club. They have a level of security they wouldn't get in other places (certainly not at Hibs) and they are genuinely appreciated here. It's hard to know what to think. I would have thought that if Butcher and Malpas (and to a lesser extent Marsala) work as a team they would have talked about the potential of moving before and would know that if a management opportunity came up which interested Butcher then it would be clear that the other two were either in or out - and the offer would involve them. If Malpas was considering going to Hibs as well then I would not have thought he would be looking after the team just now. That is an encouraging sign. Whilst I said previously that whatever the outcome, this episode is damaging to the club and perhaps it would be best if Butcher left and let the club get on with the recruitment process, that was probably said out of frustration. What I think would really be best is for him to realise that he has got a good job here until he retires and to stay and commit to being here for as long as the club wants him or until he retires. He really could achieve legend status then. I wonder if he really appreciates what he has here? CaleyD was right before and seems confident that he will stay. CaleyD has good knowledge of the machinations behind the scenes and I am encouraged by what he says. I get the sense that Butcher likes it here but probably has the dream of leading a bigger club to glory. The reality is that that probably won't happen - but it is like an itch you can't stop scratching. He knows he should stay put but he just can resist. I hope CaleyD is right, but if Butcher is going to stay then lets hope he really stays and doesn't put the fans, the club and, most important of all, his players, through this trauma again.

The only way he will stay will be if there are factors outwith his control that prevent him going. After the Barnsley fiasco there is no way he would be talking to Hibs if he was not serious about wanting away to a bigger club. The Barnsley fiasco was unsettling for the club and despite all the happy clappy, pats on the back stuff about his decision to stay, his actions demonstrated that actually he wanted away and the form of the team took a significant slump soon afterwards. If he cared for this club and actually wanted to stay he would not risk that again. Having then pledged that he was committed to seeing his contract out, he has now broken his word. The message this gives to the players is that he does not believe they are capable of winning silverware or getting into Europe this year. If he really believed in the team then surely he would stay on and enjoy the experience and kudos that success would bring. Let's face it, Butcher has never won anything as a manager and he's not going to win anything at Hibs. He is destroying his own chances of success as well sabotaging the club's chance of success that he has been instrumental in creating. Any credibility that he had belief in and loyalty towards the team has been shot to pieces. Whether he goes or stays, the damage has been done. Best for the club that a compensation package is thrashed out as soon as possible and we can get on and appoint a manager who actually does believe in the squad and can restore their faith in themselves. We then just might go on and achieve the success that this season has been promising.

No, that was just a rumour which I thought had been scotched.

What the ICT Board are prepared to pay a manager may not be as much as some clubs but it is a lot more than most of us get paid! It would be nice to think that there would be at least one high calibre manager out there with the background to do a good job who recognises that the wages on offer are enough for a good life and that what really matters is that this is a club where there is a chance of success and where loyalty to the club will be repaid by support from the Board. It is just unfortunate that Terry Butcher appears not to be that person.

Can County not have a 12.00 kick off? This would also allow them to complete the game in the light?

Interesting take in the Telegraph "The former England captain would appear to be a sound choice. It is understood that he is aware of the terms on offer and finds them to his liking, although there has been no official contact between the clubs". Does this mean that he has not spoken to the club but is aware of what the terms are and that Hibs are aware that he likes the terms? That would mean Butcher was being truthful when he told Kenny Cameron that he has not spoken to Hibs. Truthful maybe, but rather economical with the truth. I hope this is not how it is because it would reflect very badly on Butcher. Whatever the outcome, it is not good.

And Terry is Santa.

That may well be the case. The other option no one has mentioned is that he may have agreed terms to take over next season. If that was the case then he would not need to seek permission to talk to ICT and he would be true to his words after the Barnsley fiasco that he will stay to the end of his contract. Also, agreeing terms does not mean that he has signed a contract. He could then realistically use that offer as a negotiating tool in securing a significantly better deal here. Looking at the set up Hibs have relative to the expectations of the club and their fans compared to what he is on the cusp of achieving here, I think he would be absolutely crazy to leave.

2 games abandoned and neither one as a result of the state of their ground - I suppose that will be responsible for postponements later in the season.

What were you doing on the County bench?