Alex MacLeod

The guys gonna need to to a fair bit of canvasing. 200 odd votes to make up. Dont know much about footie across the pond but thought I'd vote anyway. Lets, for a laugh if nothing else, see if the power of ICT can swing this one.

Theres no way that a pitch could be replaced half way through a season. The state of the pitch shouldn't be too bad providing the weather is kind. Back when we shared at the Pitt and Gretna with Motherwell the pitches were getting a lot more use. As well as having two senior teams playing there was a reserve league and an under 21 league. There could, at that time be three or four games played on the same surface each week.

Was it not the case that the U-19 league only came about when the SPL decided to save clubs money by scrapping U-21 league? Up till then clubs would look to their youth system and select a few players they were willing to offer apprenticeships to. Those players were then developed over three or four years before being offered contracts to play U-21 and reserve league football. Because clubs had been aiming development towards U-21 and this league was suddenly removed they found, especially the lower budget clubs, that they only had a few players of each age between 16 and 19. The clubs want to promote and develop youths but there is a limit to how many apprentices we can afford to take on each year so there will always be this big age gap unless someone provides the funding to allow clubs to take on more apprentices. Thats my understanding of the situation anyway.

Cant remember what we paid Aberdire for rental but we did stump up £250k as half cost of relaying their pitch. I would expect any arrangement with County to be similar.

The other thing to bear in mind is that a large number of our U-19's are barely past 16.

I dont know if its been mentioned anywhere else on this forum, and I feel too shocked to troll through to see, but sadly I have just found out that Dave Grant, husband of Laura (L_G) lost his battle against cancer today. I think, knowing what all this family put into supporting our club, it is right and fitting that mention is made on our main forum. There are not many guys nicer than Dave nor many families nicer than the Grants and both my wife Aileen and I are deeply shocked and saddened by this news. We give our deepest heartfelt condolences to Laura, Alan and Lynne in these sad times. Rest in peace Dave.

I think there was a Killie player behind McKay who wasn't quick enough at stepping out of the field of play.

What?? Like Tade you mean!!!

Question should not be about one individual but about anyone with a lifetime olympic ban in Britian If Dwains allowed to compete then should these: David Millar (cycling) Carl Myerscough (shot put) Peter Meakin (canoeing) Jade Mellor (boxing) Callum Priestley (hurdling) Dan Staite (cycling) Jamie Stevenson (shot put)

Not the best of debut's Morten Gamst Pedersen hurled a long throw into the area, Wolves' Premier League debutant David Davis could only flick on towards his own goal, and Hoilett was afforded far too much space to acrobatically drive a half-volley into the far corner.

I like to see it as 1 point nearer to safety

Obviously not a first choice across the bridge.............they've sent him on loan to Peterhead

Always prefered Toohey's myself

Seems to me that the rules are being re-written every day http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17310468

The only thing I can see wrong in this article is that it takes someone from a foriegn land to come here and tell everyone about it. Thomas has spoke fact.

My understanding, having trolled all the news footage etc is that Whyte only has the control and title you mention as the majority shareholder of Rangers PLC. I dont think he has seperate title to that that the company has. Indeed looking here I would suggest that Whyte has no seperate control of the assets: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/03/08/rangers-in-crisis-ibrox-murray-park-car-park-players-could-all-be-sold-off-if-liquidation-becomes-reality-86908-23779714/

Taste is a matter of opinion. Just because some folk dont like whats on offer does not mean there wont be many people from all over the country making the effort to travel up for these gigs. Many of whom will require accomodation and will spend money in the city.

Entertain you to the point of falling asleep more like

OK Gabby time to out yourself. Are you Kenny Cameron in disguise?

So your saying that Whyte owns the stadium etc as a seperate entity to owning Rangers PLC. I thought he only bought David Murrays majority shareholding in the club.

When a company goes into liquidation it immediately ceases to trade and is wound up as a company With no club there can be no membership of SPL. I would think it would be no different to the Falkirk situation in 2002 where the bottom team (Motherwell) were saved because Falkirk couldn't meet the membership criterea to come up to SPL

Just read something on preffered creditor. If Whyte is such them he actually only gets preference over unsecured creditors. There are two classes that take preference over all others in liquidation. Employee's and HMRC. These two are entitled to their money in full before any others are paid out. I wonder if thats the stumbling block with players. If they agree to a wage cut they lose out. If they hold out for liquidation they eventually get all they are due provided the sell off of assets covers this.

Am I missing something here. My understanding is that if a company goes into liquidation the assets are sold off and the funds raised shared among the creditors proportionately. Reading what I've reproduced below I cant see how Whyte can make anything out of liquidation. He's more likely to make money out of coming out of administration. Club would be debt free and a big desire to potential buyers. Some cut and paste: GENERAL LIQUIDATION QUERIES What does liquidation mean? Liquidation is a formal procedure whereby a liquidator is appointed to ‘wind-up’ the affairs of a limited company, which involves selling the company’s assets and paying creditors. When all the assets have been sold and the money distributed, the company is dissolved, which means that it no longer exists. How do you put a company into liquidation? There are two ways to liquidate a company: Compulsory liquidation: this is where someone, usually a creditor, presents a petition to the court and gives evidence that they are owed money which the company cannot pay, and so the court makes a winding-up order. The Official Receiver is normally appointed liquidator of the company. It is usual for a creditor to instruct a solicitor to act on his behalf because of the legal nature of the proceedings. Voluntary liquidation: this is where the company itself decides to go into liquidation, usually because it cannot pay its debts, and an insolvency practitioner is appointed liquidator of the company. How much does it cost? If you want to put a company into compulsory liquidation, you have to pay £1000 deposit to the court, plus a £220 court fee, plus the cost of advertising the petition in the London Gazette and any costs of instructing a solicitor. If you want to put a company into voluntary liquidation, the costs vary depending on which insolvency practitioner you use. The forms to put a company into compulsory liquidation can be found on our website at www.insolvency.gov.uk in ‘Forms’ and then ‘Forms for England and Wales’. What happens to the company directors? When a company goes into liquidation, the directors cease to have control of the company, and the liquidator takes over. The directors have a duty to co-operate with the liquidator to identify all assets and liabilities of the company and provide details of its affairs. The liquidator has to make a return under the Company Directors’ Disqualification Act 1986 about the directors’ conduct in relation to the company.

The demise began way before the computer age. The so called reformation of schools and education resulted in less money available to support sporting activity. Extra curicular activity was stopped by a lack of funding to pay interested teachers to supervise and support such activity. When I went to high school I stayed back three times a week for shinty, rugby and athletics and competed on a saturday. None of these had to be budgeted for by my parents. They were all funded by education budget. That doesnt happen any more. I competed in regional and county schools athletics. Thats long gone. Nowadays there are specialist clubs for sport but there's a cost to parents to have their children attend. The point of demise was also the point at which local authorities began selling of available sporting land for property development. As kids we could also use school playing fields any time we wished. Now, because of the society we live in and the need for additional security around schools, those playing fields are surrounded by high fencing and gates are locked. Its very easy to blame the computer age but parents are very reluctant, because they dont trust society and fear harm befalls their child, to let them out of their sight and its easier to let them sit in front of a screen than go out and supervise them. Sadly thats the world we live in nowadays

As the rules of the SPL stand at the minute, assuming Rangers are liquidated and dont fulfill their fixtures, they would be expelled from SPL. Company rules and regulations will say that if Rangers are liquidated all their assets, including Ibrox and Murray Park, would be sold off to pay off thoses owed money. Would the persons hoping to reform Rangers as a new entity be in a position to purchase the assets. They would have to come to agreement with administrators and debtors that debts would be paid off or they would have to bid on an open market for the assets. I can see developers being pretty interested. As for change I forsee an amalgamation of SPL and SFL within the next three or four years. Scotland has proved it is not a big enough country to have three governing bodies of the sport. I also believe that we will form our own TV company and not be dependant on monies from existing companies. Change is needed and it will come whether or not there is a Rangers FC or some new entity.